I have a DD 4187 proving my promotion, my old reserve unit can’t find anything supporting it. What to expect?

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:02:14 -0400

So I was in the reserves then went active then got out. Got promoted when I was in the reserves, kept all my supporting documents (DD4187) but my reserves unit has nothing. When I reclassed went active I got demoted in FLW although I had my 4187. Now when I got out “discharged” chortle after .. my DD214 has my actual rank in it. Now that I’m going back active what should I expect?

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Sep 29 at 2020 10:05 AM

CW3 Kevin Storm — Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:05:52 -0400

Coin toss, if you are not going into a CPL slot don't expect it. That grade is the most confusing one in the Army.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2020 10:50 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:50:43 -0400

The 4187 for CPL, unless for DA Select CPL, is a unit level 4187 and becomes moot when you transfer as it is just unit specific. You would revert back to your old rank, or laterally promoted to SPC. If you went Active Duty were reduced back to PFC, again, the unit level 4187 is null and void. What your rank was on your DD 214 upon discharge from Active Duty...that is your final rank. Now. If the DD 214 states CPL when you got out...kudos, but coming back in you will either be reduced to PFC again (based on the time frame in which you are coming back in based on manpower numbers), or you will be given SPC as it is easier to slot a SPC than it is a CPL.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2020 10:54 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:54:10 -0400

Your DD 214 has your actual rank so that will be your rank when you go after. If your break in service was short you’ll even keep the date of rank that’s on your DA 4187

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2020 11:09 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Sep 2020 11:09:20 -0400

Get that 4187 ipermed. Its truly as simple as that.

Response by LTC Charles T Dalbec made Sep 29 at 2020 2:18 PM

LTC Charles T Dalbec — Tue, 29 Sep 2020 14:18:52 -0400

Whatever your 1966 and Enlistnent Contract says as the DD 214 proves a rank...USAREC recruiting g staff will be able to confirm rank prior to enlistment. Ok

Response by SSgt Greg Vital made Dec 27 at 2020 4:14 PM

SSgt Greg Vital — Sun, 27 Dec 2020 16:14:51 -0500

what about your promotion certificate hanging on the wall