I'm being discharged from the Air Force. What options would I have to join the USMC or Army Reserve as aircrew?

2018-05-30T07:10:36-04:00

Was just informed that i am being discharged from the Air Force honorably. Not sure what the RE code is yet as nothing has been finalized yet. i previously had an article 15 and a UIF which expires soon as well. I am a E3

I am trying to see what options i would have to join the USMC or Army reserve as aircrew. I have an up to date flight physical as i was previously accepted into special missions aviation. I am told that just having a article 15 would mean i have no chance but i'm looking at my options.

Can anyone give me information on this?

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made May 30 at 2018 7:42 AM

2018-05-30T07:42:51-04:00

Have you thought of the Air Guard, you would be able to continue your points with the Air Force that way.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made May 30 at 2018 8:14 AM

2018-05-30T08:14:24-04:00

As already stated, no one can offer even a speculation as to your ability to rejoin any service until you have an RE code ...
So while you wait on that, perhaps a better question to ask your self is..."What has changed?" No need to post here the internal response, but from reading your posts so far, I don't see you being successful in any service branch unless and until you decide to understand, accept the changes YOU NEED to make.
Honestly it does not matter what you type in a response, it only matters if you can effect the change in real time, every day after you raise your right hand again. And only you know that...if your honest with your self after reflection and consideration you have a good chance..Be that a good chance doing something not in the military service, or in the service should that be an option open to you.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 30 at 2018 8:44 AM

2018-05-30T08:44:39-04:00

Look at Air Guard or Army Guard. Every state and territory has planes and helicopters so whether you stay where you are or you go to your HOR, there should be something there.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made May 30 at 2018 8:49 AM

2018-05-30T08:49:40-04:00

I'm unsure if I've ever asked this, however, how much college this far? assocs? Bach? GPA? Major? Any flight interests, either as pilot/aviator or NAV/WSO? I follow the problem you'd mentioned, however, purely as an observation, the more you offers the likelier the chance you're gonna have, regardless of any prior problems, that',s all I'm suggesting, honest, OK? Army WOCS, since you have a valid flight medical, only needs high school minimum for rotary wing, I mean, you didn't relate your vision, howecer, whether pilot or nav/WSO, I just didn't know if your be in the age range, and/or maybe have inclinations to try. However, with what you'd explained about that other problem, you're gonna have to obv show a board you're serious, and give them major beaucoup proof, so, if you might have an interest, a STEM assocs or Bach couldn't hurt to try to convince them, you know? Now, if you went AMG as someone else had suggested Jerez I'd agree you'd be able to further contribute, at the same time as then trying to seek intersvc transfer. Also, ultimaterly, would you want senior enlisted? Warrant? Commissioned? If not a STEM major, then possibly a clinical major? There's always the NOAA Corps, which has its own flight program, fixed and rotary wing though they're small, and obviously choosyz plus, they're pure serious science, so it'd have to def be a STEM Bach minimum, period, obv. If clinical, there's the USPHS Commissioned Corps, look at COSTEP, their analogue to ROTC, Jr and Sr level. If USMC, you could also look at Platoon Leaders Course (PLC), which isn't as well known as NROTC, then there's also the whole OCS or direct commission OIS indoc program routez you know? If you could possibly elaborate, I might be able to suggest more, try to do a detailed bio sketch, hobbies, reading, interests, sports, incl !aerial arts, the more you relate, the more I might be able to suggest, OK?

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made May 30 at 2018 8:51 AM

2018-05-30T08:51:58-04:00

http://www.ocsfoundation.org

This doesn't include everything, nothing on Army WOCS, NOAA Corps BOTC, nothing on any other OIS program, there' are also the state maritime colleges, look on Wikipedia, as well as VMI and the Citadel, of you can relate just regionally where you are also, not exactly just approximately, I might be able to suggest other school oossibilitiew., OK?

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made May 30 at 2018 9:04 AM

2018-05-30T09:04:12-04:00

http://www.sgaus.org

And I know you might not want this, however, the state defense forces (SDF) could merely be a way to show you're serious, if you did time with one, apart from the whole ANG route. Further, USAFR also had a program for drilling with Civil Air Patrol (CAP), I know, as I seriously asked about itwhile I'd been Inactive Reserve, before my total perm disability...if you want to convince them you're serious, help myself and others here help you, by giving us more, OK? If college thus far, actual course titles, grades, GPA, the RE code, that's up to you, however, here's what I've observed, OK? When I was Army ROTC, I nearly didn't get into USAF OTS, I had to appeal a denial at first, I didn't exactly impress the Army ROTC faculty, I had to write a letter, I was given a chance, the officer program recruiters for USAF let me do that. I got in, I nearly flunked out of USAF OTS, I had to be recycled and go through a second time, I also picked the wrong AFSC, and wound up on the line sidez not the clinical side compounding my woesz I needed a long, long time to even remotely learn how to function in the role. After I'd gotten out, if I'd known about USPHS, I'd have done it, I don't know if I'd have !et !y wife, however, I'd have done it, I just didn't know it existed, honest. Now, the reason I tell you that story is this, OK? Everyone, everyone who goes in generally has some tale of woex God knows, I had mine, honest...that being said, if you straighten up and fly right, Uncle Sam will generally give just about anybody a second chance, third chances and up are obv harder, however second chsmcesz as long as what happened with you wasn't necessarily horrendousz which, given that you got your honorable, it clearly wasn't, evepidentpy, means you might, emphasize, might, have a chance, however, if you really want it, you're gonna have to seriously show them, which is why, having been around just about every single bureaucratic block this planet can offer, I assure you, if you relate more, I honestly might be able to suggest more, OK? If you want to make lemonade out of lemons, only you can squeeze them, OK? How much sugar you add to make the lemonade palatavle depends on how much work you do in the process, OK? I'm here if you'd care to chat...I honestly think you might have a halfway realistic chance, Ogd knows I was no prise many times, so, learn from what I can give you, and I'll try to suggest stuff to help you, so far as I possibly can, I just need to know more to try to do so halfway effectivelyz, OK? I'm Jere anytime you'd want to chat further, OK?

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made May 30 at 2018 9:05 AM

2018-05-30T09:05:41-04:00

And there's also USCG as aircrew, as well, they are used, I can possibly suggest things for them as well that might also interest you, OK?

Response by SGT Eric Davis made May 30 at 2018 9:19 AM

2018-05-30T09:19:46-04:00

You will has to wait til you get our DD214 and see your re code also the narrative reason for discharge.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 30 at 2018 9:48 AM

2018-05-30T09:48:41-04:00

Well, you don't want to join the USMC Reserves for sure. You would have to go to boot camp, MOS school, and probably lose rank. Air Guard is your best bet.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 30 at 2018 2:31 PM

2018-05-30T14:31:50-04:00

Usmc Aircrew

Response by SSgt Dan Montague made May 30 at 2018 6:38 PM

2018-05-30T18:38:08-04:00

True you need to know your RE code. I do need to ask. If you're getting kicked out of the AF, what makes you think the Army or Marines would want you?

Response by PO1 Alan Sparks made Oct 16 at 2018 6:38 PM

2018-10-16T18:38:40-04:00

It all depends on your RE Code, but if you are being discharged for a diciplinary matter my bet would be an RE-4. However, I have seen people get back in with an RE-4, in the Navy anyway, but it took them months to get things sorted out, and you will need a recruiter that is willing to work with you.
Additionally, you may have to wait a while as well, maybe up to two years. My feeling is that if you want to get back in the military, it can be done barring a felony, However, I have seen them as well get in. you will have to humble yourself, and be willing to take a job that is not all that great, at first anyway. I would expect you would have to go through basic again...you will have to want it bad enough