I'm looking to become an aviation warrant officer. Does anyone have any advice for WOCS and flight school?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 17:48:29 -0400

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2019 5:50 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 17:50:55 -0400

Speak with your WO in your company and get first hand experience and advice. Nothing better than a brain you can pick on a weekly basis.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:14 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:14:42 -0400

http://usawoa.org/

Purely as a thought, you might possibly try calling them, and seeing if they have meetings you might ask to attend wherever you're assigned or nearby, and/or possibly see if you could be referred to anyone near you, obv preferably flight related, maybe, just a thought....

USAWOA Online | U. S. Army Warrant Officers Association

To serve as the preeminent professional association supporting Army Warrant Officers in all components and statuses (Regular Army, ARNG and USAR, whether currently serving, former, or retired) and their families.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:16 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:16:21 -0400

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Army_aircraft_battalions

You might find a unit near you on here, that you might be able to go over to, in order to try to chat with the warrants there, possibly, just another thought, of course....

List of United States Army aircraft battalions - Wikipedia

This is a list of United States Army aircraft battalions. The aviation battalions in the US Army are generally attached to divisions, corps and armies and mostly consist of helicopters, both attack and reconnaissance. The helicopter battalions are often grouped into aviation brigades. There are also a few fixed-wing aircraft battalions, consisting of training aircraft, Beechcraft RC-12 Guardrail operational aircraft, and Beechcraft C-12 Huron...

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:28 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:28:58 -0400

It'd also help us try to suggest things for you a good deal, if you could possibly try to elaborate more as to specifics...associates? Bachelors? Grad school thoughts? Grades? GPAs? Specific coursework taken, not generalities, actual course titles, both STEM and non-STEM related, if at all possible? Any flight exposure thus far? Any military aero club near where you're assigned? Any effort to seek an orientation ride at all? Possibly seeking out local flight schools by you, and seeing if you could go up with them, either fixed win, or rotary win, or both, as well? Would you want fixed win or rotary wing? How much do you know about each? Would you want to possibly try for enlisted drone pilot first, even if you had to try to go interservice, maybe? Have you looked at other services at all, and, if so, which ones, and why? Are you aware of the NOAA flight program at all, if you'd be at all inclined to a pure science career in addition to going flight? USCG flight as well, possibly? Further, when I'd been in, USAF had a crazy rule that navs/WSOs needed minimum 20/100 vision, I was 20/200, which Nay allowed for NFOs, their navs/WSOs, I passed their aeromed eval, I was just never able to go interservice...don't overlook or discount going that way first, I've read of numerous instances where where navs/WSOs have gone on for pilot/aviator later on, plus, USAF started allowing navs/WSOs to actually command aviation units, while I'd been in, not solely pilots/aviators, the other services I don't know, however, USAF, I explicitly remember hearing about that being opened up to them...next, it's obviously not requisite, however, the more you know about aeronautical engineering and avionics, let along comp sci (CS) and/or IT, the more conversant you are generally with aviation, the easier it'll be for you to illustrate the depth of your interest...I've seen countless threads like yours on here about Army flight, we have a family friend who'd been Army enlisted, got Army WOCS, went rotary wing, did his bachelors in aviation with Embry Riddle, then Army released him so USCG could pick him up, he finished his 20 yrs as a USCG O-3 rotary wing pilot, he also said, as I've heard, the Army WOCS is a very rough program, I've seen numerous YouTube videos on it, you should definitely look at them as well, lemme send this, I'll try to send more relevant stuff as well, OK? And do the elaboration as I'd suggested, also add hobbies, interests, reading tastes, sports esp. any martial arts, if only to give us all some idea of your turn of mind, it'd help us suggest things for you, as well, honest, OK? I have an interest in career/educ threads, that's why I suggest such things on them, like yours, as a matter of course, so far as possible....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:29 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:29:38 -0400

https://search.aol.com/aol/search?q=faa%20helicopter%20manual%20pdf&s_it=loki-tb-sb

Look through these....

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:30 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:30:44 -0400

https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aviation/helicopter_flying_handbook/

Esp that page, if you want rotary wing, obv....

Helicopter Flying Handbook

This page was originally published at: https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aviation/helicopter_flying_handbook/

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:31 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:31:59 -0400

https://search.aol.com/aol/search?q=aerodynamics%20textbooks%20free%20pdf&s_it=loki-tb-sb

Look through these, also, download some of the PDFs, print them, and study them....

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:32 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:32:56 -0400

https://search.aol.com/aol/search?q=military%20aero%20clubs&s_it=loki-tb-sb

Find one by you and go, I didn't take advantage of the one where I was, I kick myself regularly for not having done so, I assure you....

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:33 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:33:57 -0400

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controllability

This is essential to understanding helicopter as well as fixed wing flight control systems....

Controllability - Wikipedia

Controllability is an important property of a control system, and the controllability property plays a crucial role in many control problems, such as stabilization of unstable systems by feedback, or optimal control.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:34 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:34:32 -0400

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observability

As is this....

Observability - Wikipedia

In control theory, observability is a measure of how well internal states of a system can be inferred from knowledge of its external outputs. The observability and controllability of a system are mathematical duals. The concept of observability was introduced by Hungarian-American engineer Rudolf E. Kálmán for linear dynamic systems.[1][2]

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:35 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:35:13 -0400

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identifiability

And this....

Identifiability - Wikipedia

In statistics, identifiability is a property which a model must satisfy in order for precise inference to be possible. A model is identifiable if it is theoretically possible to learn the true values of this model's underlying parameters after obtaining an infinite number of observations from it. Mathematically, this is equivalent to saying that different values of the parameters must generate different probability distributions of the...

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:35 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:35:41 -0400

https://search.aol.com/aol/search?q=wikipedia%20state%20variables&s_it=loki-tb-sb

All of this, too....

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:36 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:36:28 -0400

http://www.aiaa.org

Find the local chapter of this by you, and o, also, subscribe to their journals, if you can, you want the serious stuff on aero engineering, this is a major part of it, I assure you....

www.aiaa.org

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:37 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:37:44 -0400

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/RecentIssue.jsp?punumber=7

As is this...same thing, find the local chapter by you, and go, even as a student member, if you can....

RecentIssue.jsp

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:38 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:38:16 -0400

http://www.acm.org

Join this, it's the main comp sci (CS) and IT professional association....

Association for Computing Machinery

ACM, the world's largest educational and scientific computing society, delivers resources that advance computing as a science and a profession. ACM provides the computing field's premier Digital Library and serves its members and the computing profession with leading-edge publications, conferences, and career resources.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:38 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:38:44 -0400

http://www.afcea.org

Join this, get their journal, they're all over avionics....

www.afcea.org

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:38 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:38:55 -0400

http://www.crows.org

Same for them....

www.crows.org

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:39 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:39:48 -0400

http://www.mors.org

These people often have aviation related articles, ops research is frequently overlooked as a STEM field with quite heavy aviation overtones....

Military Operations Research Society

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:40 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:40:34 -0400

http://www.ausa.org

Join this, if you haven't already...they have frequent conferences, many on avionics or related topics, or aviation, if you can go, find the local chapter by you, and go....

Association of the United States Army

Voice for the Army – Support for the Soldier

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:41 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:41:25 -0400

http://www.usni.org

The proceedings for them should be reqd reading for all svc mbrs, in all svcs, they're that good, and often deal with aviation and/or avionics topics....

United States Naval Institute

The U.S. Naval Institute provides an independent forum for those who seek to advance and strengthen the naval profession.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:41 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:41:50 -0400

http://www.navyleague.org

Same for them....

www.navyleague.org

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:42 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:42:02 -0400

http://www.afa.org

And them....

Home

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:43 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:43:06 -0400

https://search.aol.com/aol/search?q=enlisted%20drone%20pilots&s_it=loki-tb-sb

Read everything you can about this as a possible prelude to going Army WOCS, if need be, I merely mention it as something you might find of interest, that's all, honest....

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:45 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:45:17 -0400

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_test_engineer

Read about this....

Flight test engineer - Wikipedia

The flight test engineer generally has overall responsibility for the planning of a specific flight test phase, which includes preparing the test plans in conjunction with other analytical and/or systems engineers, overseeing the buildup of the aircraft to the proper configuration, working with the flight test instrumentation engineer to ensure the sensors and recording systems are installed for required data parameters, and preparing the...

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:45 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:45:56 -0400

https://search.aol.com/aol/search?q=army%20helicopter%20flight%20test&s_it=loki-tb-sb

Read these....

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Aug 24 at 2019 6:52 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:52:38 -0400

There's obviously more I could suggest, however, hopefully, all that should keep you going and busy for a fair while...if you want the real thing, I've given you a good deal of where to find it, what to look at to read, and who to call to ask for help to find out more...when I suggest such stuff, for such threads as the kinds of questions you asked, I obviously try to give specific concrete suggestions, not vague generalities, so far as possible...I realize that I might tend to overwhelm in doing so, which, of course, is not my intention, however, my object is to try to give you specific ideas of where and how to learn about different avenues to research such topics as you'd asked about, so far as possible...I hope all that might possibly be of some use and/or interest, in any event, if you'd care to chat at all, I'd be most interested to hear more, so far as you'd care to elaborate, as I'd explained before, obviously, no rush, of course, whenever you'd want, certainly, by all means, anytime....

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2019 11:42 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 23:42:04 -0400

Your first starting point should be to attend a WO brief at this address - BLDG E-3323 1105 EL Salvador st. at 1100 every wednesday. You'll get a pretty good breakdown of the packet and the requirements to get you started on a packet. Then you'll want to start picking this site apart for everything you'll need.

https://recruiting.army.mil/ISO/AWOR/

If you want to talk to a warrant, hit up the CAB. Plenty of them around there that are happy to answer your questions about the process of becoming a pilot.

U.S. Army Warrant Officer Recruiting

The official website for the Army Recruiting Command (USAREC)

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2019 12:50 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 25 Aug 2019 12:50:19 -0400

Just graduated WOCS. Follow EVERY direction to the letter. Pay CLOSE attention to details, and when in charge be in charge; when you're not in charge be a great follower.