I'm planning to seek a commission; what should I know about the process? What advice do you have for me?

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ETS is 30SEP2017. By that time I should be a tabbed Ranger with at least one combat deployment under my belt. I have a BA in Political Science, 2013, cum laude. APFT overs around 300, GT is 140. When should I start the process in seeking a commission, and what do I need to do to accomplish this goal?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2016 5:05 PM

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Not sure on the active component but this will be easy for you in the ARNG or the USAR.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2016 5:12 PM

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After you get your commission and complete your officer, basic and advanced courses, I suggest you add the Civil Affairs Branch as your functional area and join them as a Senior 1LT. This will give you COIN experience and you may be able to find and airborne CA unit. It did not hurt me. I was not that focused earlier in my career and I made Major. My fomer company Commander was Airborne, Pathfinder, Ranger and a one of my BCs was SF tabbed so your combat arms skills are not overlooked!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2016 5:20 PM

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your polical science degree will help you very well in unconventional warfare subjects live Civil Affairs covers what you already knew but have not really applied...yet!

Response by LTC Yinon Weiss made Feb 15 at 2016 5:59 PM

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1) Be open to all branches of service. The Army is the most familiar and is likely to be your best fit, but explore all branches and see what is out there and available for you. At the very least, go through the due diligence.

2) Begin a conversation with officer recruiters (or whatever they are called in each branch early; like now). There could be some programs with huge backlogs of applicants, and 18 months out is not too early to begin the conversation.

3) Dual source every piece of significant or questionable information you get. If a recruiter says "no, you can't do that", but you want to do that, research it (respectfully) on your own. Don't take everything at face value.

4) Educate yourself on the different officer career fields before speaking to a recruiter. Go into the process with known preferences. Connect with other junior officers on RallyPoint who are prior enlisted and ask for a 10-15 phone call to tell you about their process, why they chose their MOS (if they did), and what they have learned about it.

5) Don't get tunnel vision on one career field. Be open minded.

Response by MAJ David Vermillion made Feb 15 at 2016 6:21 PM

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Start now, one step at a time. Don't get too many things going at one time. You will set yourself up for failure. Hope things go well for you.

Response by 1LT A. Uribe made Feb 15 at 2016 6:27 PM

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Ensure your GT score is 110, Iperm your degree, continue the PT regimen. Be open to what the Army chooses for you. Start studying the materials they test in OCS, the wall locker set up, bed layout, check your uniforms for servicibility. BLUF, attention to detail is the key.

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2016 6:59 PM

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Search this question. There are a number of threads out there with the info you're looking for.

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2016 7:00 PM

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I'm available via inbox too

Response by COL Jon Thompson made Feb 15 at 2016 8:31 PM

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You have a couple of options. First, look at Officer Candidate School. It sounds like you meet the requirements now and I know the Army is trying to expand that program. http://www.goarmy.com/ocs.html
I would start looking into that right away. The link is the goarmy.com site so that may be more for people with degrees that want to enlist for OCS but they also take enlisted Soldiers that have degrees.

Another option is ROTC Green to Gold. You can pursue the Active Duty Option for a graduate degree. This allows you to stay on active duty while you go to school and after two years, receive your commission.
http://www.goarmy.com/rotc/enlisted-soldiers.html

Again, start right away. Both programs require applications and letters of recommendation and those do not come overnight. Good luck with your decision.

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Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2016 10:10 PM

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Just know going into it that you should salute 1LTs and you will be just fine.

Response by CPT Enrique M. made Feb 15 at 2016 10:20 PM

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just out of curiosity are you looking into getting a graduate degree?
Getting a grad degree also opens up a lot of different doors within the Army.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2016 10:26 PM

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SPC Elijah J. Henry, best of luck and reach out on RP or inbox if you need any info.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2016 10:35 PM

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You can either go the OCS route or Green to Gold to get your Masters. If your post is accurate, you're a good candidate fur either. Green to Gold will take longer, but you'll have a much different experience than OCS. The application windows are different did these also, with OCS having more opportunities to apply. Personally, I did GtG and found that I learned more about officership than some of my friends that attended OCS.
There are four paths to officership: http://m.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/become-an-officer/how-to-become-an-officer-in-the-army.m.html
Good luck!

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Response by SFC Michael Garner made Feb 15 at 2016 10:53 PM

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Shoot your self in the face,

Response by COL Charles Williams made Feb 15 at 2016 11:34 PM

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SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA Good for you!!! Always be humble, first and foremost. Second, you need to think about why you want to an Army Officer? Please remember, as a leader, as an officer, it is never about you.

Your credentials are exquisite. It appears all you need to do is apply for OCS, and make thru.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2016 1:50 AM

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Response by LTJG Nelson Lowes made Feb 16 at 2016 7:48 AM

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Seek information and advice from your current chain of command. They will help you.

Response by LTC Michael Hrycak made Feb 16 at 2016 9:00 AM

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You have some great advice given. The Green to Gold program will be a good idea if you are motivated to earn a graduate degree, and the Army (or other service) will pay for it. Always think two steps ahead in your career. Right now many branches are experiencing growth and development, while others seem to be withering on the vine. If you are a self-starter, disciplined, and want to go where few have gone before, which seems to match your background, try to go for Computer Science and become part of the CyberSecurity force. You will probably get into a joint service assignment, get great exposure to cutting edge military doctrine in the making, and you will also see the best of the best from all our great services. Going back to two steps ahead, and you will assure yourself an interesting future, if that is what you end up deciding to do.

Response by MAJ Walter Meczywor made Feb 16 at 2016 10:50 AM

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Along with all the great comments provided by my "brothers in arms" below, from a personal perspective, I transitioned from enlisted to the officer corps in the early 80's. The four years I spent as an EM were probably the best years I had in the Army. What you learn from going through that process can't be taught to West Point or ROTC cadets. Don't get me wrong our Army has had and will continue to have great officer prospects coming from these two venues but the day-in/day-out regime of enlisted life, as you know, is the best OJT one can have especially in making the transition to a commissioned officer. I was fortunate to not only be selected for OCS after completing my masters degree as an E-5 but also selected for a Direct Commission. I chose the DC route as the branch offered was Medical Service Corps (MSC) although I really wanted Infantry, as at that time I was serving with the 25th ID in Hawaii. Bottom Line Up Front: Keep an open mind, LISTEN to your NCO's; always know that the "buck" stops with you whether you're a PLT LDR, CO or staff officer and ALWAYS remember that the decisions you make directly affect the soldiers you're responsible for.

ATW! and best of luck

Response by LTC Maureen Barthen made Feb 16 at 2016 11:09 AM

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It sind like your knocking off quite a number of requirements with gumption. I expect that you have already spoken with your rater and senior rater, and if your CSG and Cdr weren't one of those, they would be key in any recommendations a Commissioning Board would like to hear from.
Direct Commissions can be immediate (I know someone who had just submitted her packet and her CG personally promoted her within the month), and I've known an individual who (without alot of support from his command) took over a year.
Seeing a Unit Career Counsellor would also help.
I apologize for not being more specific with your individual situation, but not knowing you specifically or witnessing your leadership ability (though it sounds on paper like you would be on the top of the rating pyramid), I would seek advice from the leadership and mentors who know you best.
I wish you all the best, and stay safe.

Response by MAJ Ariel Jose Ortiz Fuentes made Feb 16 at 2016 11:56 AM

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What I'm seen on your explanation is that you already have a BA so, ROTC should be out the checklist, for Officer Candidate School the requirements are:
A college graduate with at least a four-year degree (done)
•Must not have more than six years of Active Federal Service (AFS) upon arrival at OCS
•Between 19 and 32 years old (you must enter active duty or ship to training by your 33rd birthday and accept commission prior to age 34)
•Eligible for a secret security clearance

For direct commission If you have a background in the medical, legal or chaplaincy fields, you can earn a direct commission as an Officer (Since your BA is in political science, law school would beneficial to commissioning you as an LT).

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2016 12:15 PM

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Don't do it

Response by LTC Charles T Dalbec made Feb 16 at 2016 12:50 PM

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Secure a copy of AR 601-100 and follow exactly you are looking for Direct Appointment process

As a 'Mustang' I understand and will gladly assist.

Start getting letters from Superiirs and from reputable members of the Civilian community

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Response by LTC Ian Murdoch made Feb 16 at 2016 3:12 PM

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First of all, thank you for your service. Best of luck with your goal of earning your Ranger tab and in perusing a commission.
I was commissioned through Officer Candidate School during the ‘90’s drawdown, and there are some similarities between that environment and today.
During drawdown, the supply of applicants usually exceeds available training seats, so the services can afford to be very selective, and you will likely face stiff competition. You don’t sound like you will be daunted by this, but you will want to do everything you can to make yourself an attractive candidate for selection boards.
First, excel in your current duties. Continue to seek out difficult challenges, not just to improve your chances of selection, but to make a big as possible contribution to your unit. Learn from mistakes and setbacks and set everyone around you up for success. That is the single most important thing you can do now.
As others have advised, look at all services and get current, authoritative information and advice. For the Army, carefully read the pertinent regulations and MILPER messages, and routinely check for updates and new information as you work through the application process. Start gathering any records or documents for your application NOW and keep it up to date.
Sit down with an NCO or officer and do a hard scrub of your Official Military Personnel File. Then do it again with a personnel NCO or Officer. When you get promoted, assuming you have a good relationship with your rater, ask him or her to include a remark about your potential to serve as an officer. When you apply, make sure your photo is perfect.
The rest of this pertains to Army Officer Candidate School, but the ideas apply to any commissioning source
It wouldn’t hurt to contact the OCS cadre at FT Benning and ask what makes a successful candidate. Find some officers who have sat on OCS selection boards and talk to them. The OCS board is very much like a job interview, and you will want to convince the board that your selection will help the Army accomplish its mission. Remember, it’s not about your career objectives or desires, it is about the troops who you would lead and needs of the service. Your desire will be apparent in your service record and preparation for your application.
When you go to the board, be prepared to talk about your accomplishments in tangible terms, for example, “I brought my team’s average APFT score up by 15% by teaching my Soldiers about proper nutrition.”
In the past, candidates needed to write a short essay on “Why I Want to be an Army Officer” by hand when they appear before the board. This is both a chance for the board to understand your motives better, and a test of your writing skill. If this still applies, be well prepared. Tell your story, not some BS you think the board wants to hear. If writing is not your forte, practice ahead of time and get others to critique your drafts. Just know you will have to write it unassisted from memory when the time comes.
Ask your leaders for letters of recommendation. The most persuasive are those from officers who actually know you and can talk about why you would make a good officer.
Be in the best shape you can be in. Check to see if you will need a medical waiver. Note that accession standards are higher than retention standards, so don’t assume that just because you meet retention standards you are good to go. If it turns out you do need a waiver, you will want to show that the condition will not hold you back in OCS or as a lieutenant. It’s about the physical demands you WILL be facing, not what you’re doing now. Also, check to see if you will need any other waiver (i.e. age, time in service, etc.). If you need a waiver, don’t let that hold you back. Request the waiver and make your best case as to why it should be granted.
ROTC may also be an option. Talk to the Professors of Military Science at the schools you are interested in for current information. You can also talk to the staff at Cadet Command.
You could also consider the Reserve Components. For the National Guard, your best bet is to talk to Army or Air Guard recruiters in the state(s) you may interested in.
I hope this helps. Again, best of luck.
Ian

Response by LTC Jeff Moser made Feb 16 at 2016 3:14 PM

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Applying to OCS is much simpler while you're still on active duty vs ETSing and applying as a civilian. You've got the education, APFT & GT requirements met already.
Go to this site (if you haven't already) to check out what you need to do to get this rolling. https://www.hrc.army.mil/officer/officer%20candidate%20school

Good luck - let us know how it goes for you.

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Response by LTC Pete Moore made Feb 16 at 2016 3:52 PM

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I entered as a PFC got out as an E-6, went through ROTC retired as an O-5 (too banged up to deploy anymore according to med guys). You're a smart guy, my recommendation is to apply to grad school, do ROTC and get commissioned. Frankly that's probably easier to get a slot than OCS. However if you haven't applied to OCS do it, not certain what current retention requirements are but... Whichever way you go, not a lot of smart fit experienced folks out there seeking a commission with a degree already. You are already that, I'd find your nearest Professor of Military Science (college ROTC CDR) and apply to grad school - I suspect they'd be happy to have you. I assure if I can do it, you can do it. Check out http://www.goarmy.com/rotc.html and go for it!

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Response by LTC Alvin Buckelew made Feb 16 at 2016 4:01 PM

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I wish I could help you but I have been retired for more than 40 years. There have been many changes in the Army since I retired (some good, some really bad). I wish you success with Ranger School ( I was in class 1-50 and served in the 1st Ranger Company in Korea 1950-51).

Response by Maj Gen Maj Gen (Ret) Howard Brent Baker made Feb 16 at 2016 4:05 PM

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Learn all you can about the process so you can optimize your chances and ensure your packages is as competitive as possible. Have several people review before you submit. Work with the education office as they are the experts on what makes a package competitive. Then, don't let anyone discourage from going forward as it was the best thing I ever did career wise.

Response by LCDR Rich Bishop made Feb 16 at 2016 4:09 PM

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Ensure you define your goals, if your goal is to get to the officer rank, then start talking to your monitor and a recruiter right now to discuss what programs they have. If they don't want to help you I would talk with a Navy recruiter about a commission and look to the SEAL program, however, you will have to go through BUDS. I would also talk with the AF and/or Marines. The Army has you and enlisted are harder to keep so they may not be energized to help you, thus you may have to move to another service. Remember - This is about YOU and your CAREER, you can serve this country in another uniform if necessary.

Response by MAJ Emma Toops made Feb 16 at 2016 5:13 PM

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Some folks have already stated this, but I will emphasize that it's important that you know WHY you want to become a commissioned officer. Recognize that there are THREE officer Corps and they each serve a specific function to the service.

NCOs are the backbone - taking care of Soldiers, enforcing discipline and policy, getting the job done, etc. They are HR experts and task managers.

Commissioned officers are Resource Managers and Planners. They start off Tactical, but quickly progress to Operational and Strategic effects.

Warrant Officers are the technical experts. If you want to know the how and why of process, procedures, and anything technical, ask a Warrant.

Once you know WHY, then figure out and execute the how.

Response by LTC Albert O'Rear made Feb 16 at 2016 5:14 PM

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SPC E. My advice is to apply NLT early 30's but by all means before 35. The law use to be not later than 35 but I believe it has changed a bit (Check it out to help make your mind up). As far as your branch (I agree with the others' who have posed.) Be open and keep in mind, one day you will not be in uniform and therefore having an experience in finance, HR or logistics can only help.

Response by SGT Richard H. made Feb 16 at 2016 5:51 PM

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It sounds to me like you could probably apply for OCS now if you have made your decisions on where you want to go in the Officer Corps.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2016 6:01 PM

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Start right away, Maverick! (That's what they call us green to golds) You can count on being pegged for leadership early and being everyone's radio man during FTX. Haha

Response by MAJ Daniel Flynn made Feb 16 at 2016 7:30 PM

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Four pathways to a comission: direct (hard), OCS (90 day wonder), ROTC (impractical) and the M.A. at West Point. I'd worry about completing Ranger first then get with Army Human Resources Command. Preferably an Officer in Personnel. Don't overlook Warrant Officer School. Once heard a speech by a retiring Army Reserve two star. His HAPPIEST days in The Army were as a Warrant. Good luck and Rangers Lead the Way!!!

Response by Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. made Feb 16 at 2016 11:24 PM

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Apply! When selected and you attend Officer Training, there are lots of newbies that don't know crap going through officer training and holding cadet officer ranks. Simply do your best, keep your mouth shut about the perceived stupidity, don't worry about being a cadet leader, means nothing after you graduate from Officer Training. Associate and if possible room with other former enlisted cadets. Watch each others back, exceed in measured performance, and when fed up with crap remember that at the end of Officer Training, you out rank the newbies and if you have enough years you get more pay and things return to the real world and the real mission.

As an aside, when I attended Officer Training (OTS) USAF, I was an E-5 with over 5 yrs service. I quickly scouted out two other former enlisted, an E-6 and E-7, and we chatted and agreed to room together. It was great 1) because keeping the room up to standards was breeze and 2) we could rely on each other. On our first room inspection, the Captain (a grounded pilot) looked into our closets and saw we had rows of decorations. The E6 was a helicopter gunner in Vietnam and had three bronze stars, the silver star, the purple heart, and numerous commendation medals. The Capt said he hope we really earned these medals. We firmly said we did! (ignoring the "sir" this time). He sheepishly retreated. From then on, while the newbies played cadet chain of command , we focused on PT and course work or were otherwise busy. We had liberty every weekend. (Loved seeing my wife). Also, highly recommend being proficient in firearms. I was already an expert in the M-16. In OTS, when I walked on to the small arms range, I immediately qualified as an expert in small arms.. The Range Chief smiled and the word spread and I found more time free to focus on my professional course work.

Again apply - you are ready!

Response by CPT Don Williams made Feb 17 at 2016 4:46 AM

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First, congratulations on some real achievements to be proud of. And thanks for your service. I got my commission in 1980 through BIOCS (Branch Immaterial Officer Candidate School). I'm sure there is still some version of OCS in the system. This may be your best bet. You will need support and letters of recommendation from superiors in your past. Then follow the process which should include an interview before a panel of Officers. College is a great advantage. I'm sure your Combat service and Ranger schooling will go a long way toward approval. I can't speak to your timing question. Hopefully, you have a Senior NCO and/or Company/Field grad officer who can advise and support you. Best wishes. P.S. ROTC is also a way but requires more time. Be aware that my experience as an OCS grad was that many Officers will consider you as less qualified than they are, especially the West Pointers.

Response by MAJ Scott Meehan made Feb 17 at 2016 7:09 AM

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Since you already have a degree you are eligible for OCS. Begin gathering letters of recommendations and endorsements now. You will face a local Board, much like an E-6 promotional Board where officers will ask a lot of questions. Based on your accomplishments listed in your email, you should have no problem getting accepted into the OCS. It is worth it. I was enlisted for seven years before going the ROTC route. I retired as a Major.
SaM

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2016 7:51 AM

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Jeeez. I salute you , officer or not !

Response by BG Keith Gallagher, FACHE made Feb 17 at 2016 9:22 AM

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Follow the application criteria, seek letters of recommendation from your company and battalion commanders and CSM and be thoughtful on why you want to become a commissioned officer. I recommend you say nothing about the Ranger Tab and deployment until they are completed and earned. You can say I have a slot for Ranger Class # or am in the deployment window for my BCT if the app has to be submitted by a certain date. Good luck.

Response by COL Ed Mullin made Feb 17 at 2016 10:34 AM

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You are already well on your way. It is too bad that you didn't take ROTC while getting your degree. OCS is another route that you could pursue. Speak with your chain of command about getting recommended and it should be easy for you to qualify. Good luck. nothing is more noble than a bar of gold on Army green (though since I retired it changed to blue).

Response by LtCol Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2016 11:17 AM

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Hard Charger,
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Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2016 2:12 PM

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My most valuable lesson: as a Captain in a Bde HQ the S3 was always asking my opinion. I asked him why he never followed my recommendations. He replied that he valued my opinion but that he was privy to more information than was available to me.

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Feb 17 at 2016 3:55 PM

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First don't count on being Ranger tabbed, and the one deployment because those are variables so submit a direct commission packet based on your BA degree, GT of 140, APFT is another is a yearly variable so go see your S-3 and be nice to S-1 (Spc Mafia).

Response by Capt Victor LaBoy made Feb 19 at 2016 3:11 PM

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It's been a while since I left the air force but at that time as an NCO you had to be accepted into Officer candidate school which since the drawdown it's not always available (open), just make sure to get all your duck in a row when you apply, the base personnel office should help with this. A bachelors degree is required, last time I checked although the Army might have a different requirement if they are still doing warrant officer commissions. I was commissioned through ROTC while in college so the process was completely different than what you would have to go through. Good luck, hope everything goes well.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 21 at 2016 9:37 PM

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I would begin seeking it immediately; things tend to get bogged down for no reason at all.

Response by SPC Timothy Repetto made Mar 4 at 2016 8:56 AM

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What ever you do.... do not fail Ranger School and go to your first duty station to your new platoon with no tab. You'll just be another butter-bar them. My L.T. said it was something like this for him. (Don't know cause I didn't go through it.) You go to O.C.S. and the Top of the class go infantry. the rest get sorted out into logistics and quarters. If you go infantry you should have an offer to go to ranger school. Just do your best that's all any body can do.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2016 12:27 PM

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Good job! When I was in basic, platoon guide, I had a fellow soldier I remember so well. He had a masters. When I learned this I was stunned. I asked "Why are you not an officer? His reply, "I will be an officer, I wanted to come and an experience what those I will lead experience." Wow. There are a lot of good men and women who have done just what you have done. Go for it. Remember, find those commanders who will believe in you. Your military bearing, ethics, drive and humble spirit. If you do not find support, you can do a direct commissioning packet.
As you seek, remember you may have people place obstacles in the way. Go directly to the regulations and make sure you read entirely -study, master them. Be respectful and complete the processes. People will observe your relentless drive. This is a high mark for them as they observe your non quitting positive attitude as you move through the process.
If necessary, go under open door policy to the Commanding General and seek support. Believe in you. Drive on!

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 20 at 2016 9:03 PM

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You are welcome. Please contact me for any ear you need to listen and bounce ideas and ponderings.
Respectfully,

Frederick