I've just been disqualified from the Air Force. Is this really the end of my military career? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was called into the recruiting office by my recruiter and he told me that MEPS has kicked back my medical papers with a PDQ. There was a handwritten note from one of the doctors. It basically said that my one kidney is a condition that they&#39;ll never give a waiver for and that my disqualification is across all branches, not just the Air Force. <br /><br />Is this really the end of my military career? I read online that you could possibly contact your local congressman and have them fight for you to get a waiver and join. Also, my recruiter said that MEPS hasn&#39;t seen my ASVAB scores. Maybe if I contact them and show them that I got a 94, they&#39;ll reconsider? Is there any way that I can get them to try for a waiver? I just really want to serve in the Air Force, or just the military as a whole. What should I do? Fri, 09 Nov 2018 14:15:30 -0500 I've just been disqualified from the Air Force. Is this really the end of my military career? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was called into the recruiting office by my recruiter and he told me that MEPS has kicked back my medical papers with a PDQ. There was a handwritten note from one of the doctors. It basically said that my one kidney is a condition that they&#39;ll never give a waiver for and that my disqualification is across all branches, not just the Air Force. <br /><br />Is this really the end of my military career? I read online that you could possibly contact your local congressman and have them fight for you to get a waiver and join. Also, my recruiter said that MEPS hasn&#39;t seen my ASVAB scores. Maybe if I contact them and show them that I got a 94, they&#39;ll reconsider? Is there any way that I can get them to try for a waiver? I just really want to serve in the Air Force, or just the military as a whole. What should I do? Madison Holloway Fri, 09 Nov 2018 14:15:30 -0500 2018-11-09T14:15:30-05:00 Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2018 2:27 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4113455&urlhash=4113455 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1579908" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1579908-madison-holloway">Madison Holloway</a> You should look for another career because you will never get in the military. I will also add that it is not the end of your military career, because you never had a military career to begin with. With your continuing insistence that there has to be a way to join, I think you are a troll since this is Post number six about your one missing kidney. Sgt Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 09 Nov 2018 14:27:31 -0500 2018-11-09T14:27:31-05:00 Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2018 2:46 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4113479&urlhash=4113479 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>AFQT is not a factor in medical disqualification. <br /><br />Did you have all supporting medical documents?<br />Did you have a clearance letter from a doctor?<br />Do you have any limiting factors. <br /><br />The doctor at MEPS works for all branches, if you were given a PDQ, your physical profile is needed. If you were given a 3, it is waiverable, usually. If your given a 4 it is completely DQ. I suggest you go talk to army recruiter about having a waiver submitted to army surgeon. SSG Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 09 Nov 2018 14:46:34 -0500 2018-11-09T14:46:34-05:00 Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2018 2:52 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4113490&urlhash=4113490 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>While diligence is to be appreciated, a 94 on the ASVAB isn’t likely to earn a waiver for an automatic disqualified. The ASVAB isn’t a big deal. It’s an easy test (that in reality, serves as a military placement qualification test for high school kids. And others get to take it, too). Having only 50% of the required kidney allowance is, however, a very big deal. <br /><br />When considering waivers, you have to consider, “is the juice worth the squeeze?” In this case, is it worth letting someone into the military with one kidney, accepting all the risks that come with condition, because that person got a 94 on the ASVAB? <br /><br />People get 94 on the ASVAB every day. While it’s a good score, it’s by no means highly impressive, or uniquely impressive. Additionally, it’s not a good or accurate guarantee of unique or impressive future military service. So in this case, it seems as though the juice would not be worth the squeeze for a waiver. <br /><br />Respectfully, it’s probably in your best interests to start considering another, more realistic, career path. Best of luck. SGT Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 09 Nov 2018 14:52:14 -0500 2018-11-09T14:52:14-05:00 Response by SrA John Monette made Nov 9 at 2018 3:03 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4113506&urlhash=4113506 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>i am truly sorry to hear that your waiver was denied. I don&#39;t think even if you aced the ASVAB you would get a waiver. I appreciate, and I am sure everyone else on RP does too, your perseverance and willingness to lay it all on the line for our country. However, there are still ways you can serve without being in the military. Law enforcement, fire departments. check USAJobs for employment opportunities at a VA Hospital. check with veterans service organizations for volunteer opportunities. there are a million ways to serve your country and veterans. SrA John Monette Fri, 09 Nov 2018 15:03:38 -0500 2018-11-09T15:03:38-05:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2018 3:26 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4113576&urlhash=4113576 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Wow.... That&#39;s a really big surprise after everyone on here told you one kidney was non-waiverable and then you made a post to mock everyone when you received a MEPS appointment.<br /><br />I believe you asked, &quot;When will this disqualification come?&quot;<br /><br />You are not physically or emotionally suited to the military. But you can still be an asset to your country. Become a teacher, or a doctor, or a nurse, volunteer your time as a kids soccer coach and find an under served community to help. If you want to help people there is no shortage of organizations that need your assistance. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 09 Nov 2018 15:26:30 -0500 2018-11-09T15:26:30-05:00 Response by CPT J B made Nov 9 at 2018 3:32 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4113586&urlhash=4113586 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would apply for a medical waiver through DoDMERB and see what happens. He could be wrong.<br />I don&#39;t know for sure, but my sense tells me that the civilian doctors give many ailments the red light just to cover themselves. The military may not care as much. You probably won&#39;t be able to be a military pilot though. CPT J B Fri, 09 Nov 2018 15:32:16 -0500 2018-11-09T15:32:16-05:00 Response by SSG Robert Perrotto made Nov 9 at 2018 3:42 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4113615&urlhash=4113615 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>did you not come here a week ago gloating that we were all wrong about you not being able to serve with one kidney? That The Air force was taking you to meps etc etc - well - not to say we told you so, but - we told you so. There is nothing any of us can do, as it is DOD policy and guidelines that specifically state that having 1 kidney is a disqualifying condition, non waiverable. I am sorry that you cannot serve, now you need to find something else to put your talents to use in. you obviously have the intelligence to succeed, look at your asvab scores, what is the highest section you scored in, apply that to university or a trade school, trade school would be better as skilled blue collar earns a helluva lot more then a general BA or BS. Good luck to you. SSG Robert Perrotto Fri, 09 Nov 2018 15:42:29 -0500 2018-11-09T15:42:29-05:00 Response by SSgt Dan Montague made Nov 9 at 2018 5:28 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4113831&urlhash=4113831 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Just give it up. Go cry on Yahoo answers SSgt Dan Montague Fri, 09 Nov 2018 17:28:11 -0500 2018-11-09T17:28:11-05:00 Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2018 6:39 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4114019&urlhash=4114019 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Best of luck in all of your endeavors outside of the military, <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1579908" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1579908-madison-holloway">Madison Holloway</a> CPT Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 09 Nov 2018 18:39:29 -0500 2018-11-09T18:39:29-05:00 Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2018 6:51 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4114044&urlhash=4114044 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-281042"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fi-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=I%27ve+just+been+disqualified+from+the+Air+Force.+Is+this+really+the+end+of+my+military+career%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fi-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AI&#39;ve just been disqualified from the Air Force. Is this really the end of my military career?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="acd2bd1d9c73934a2b07401c31279c3e" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/281/042/for_gallery_v2/bcd17592.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/281/042/large_v3/bcd17592.jpg" alt="Bcd17592" /></a></div></div> MSG Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 09 Nov 2018 18:51:44 -0500 2018-11-09T18:51:44-05:00 Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Nov 9 at 2018 8:42 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4114328&urlhash=4114328 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don&#39;t mean to ask this to unrealistically raise hopes, however I do recall I think something earlier about such a problem, I&#39;m assuming it was something from you, though that&#39;s obv only a guess, of course. I was merely curious what AFSC you&#39;d wanted in USAF, what other svcs you&#39;d spoken with, whether you&#39;d considered Reserve or Guard, invpcl Reserve Tech and Guard Tech, as well as AGR possibly, pks understand, I also wondered what school you&#39;ve had specifically, AP coursework in high school, STEM coursework, exposure to Civil If Patrol (CAP), Navy Sea Cadets, and/or USCG Auxiliary as well. Then, top there are the state militias, real state militaries though not all states have them, where one can&#39;t be deployed out of state, that support the Army and Air Natl Guard (ARNG/ANG), I&#39;ll send you the link for their major professional group, then offer a few other thoughts as well, such as I can, OK? Capt Daniel Goodman Fri, 09 Nov 2018 20:42:55 -0500 2018-11-09T20:42:55-05:00 Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Nov 9 at 2018 8:55 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4114357&urlhash=4114357 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a target="_blank" href="http://www.sgaus.org">http://www.sgaus.org</a><br /><br />This is the major professional group of the various state militia, remember, these are real militaries, enlistment contracts, boot camps, OCS programs, all the rest, though most are unarmed auxiliaries in the main, I&#39;d always understood, for the most part, in NY where my wife and I are, the NY Guard (NYG) isn&#39;t Federally recognized, so, as with I think sevl other states that have similar bodies, there are various Geneva Convention legalities restricting them from participating on Federal installations, our dentist had been asked by a friend if he&#39;d wanted to join him in NY ARNG, he wasn&#39;t sure if it&#39;d be for him, I suggested NYG, being as before my disability, I was trained doctoral level allied health, we shut my license sevl yrs ago due to the disability, though I&#39;d avidly asked about NYG, the laws of NY precluded my going being as I&#39;m VA total perm disabled, though I did try, now, having said all that you miuht well encounter the same problem once again, I don&#39;t know honest, in NY and other states, there are also naval militias, in NY it&#39;s called the NYNM, it IS Federally recognized, but ONLY as the bulk of its members, over 95%, are drilling Navy, USMC, and USCG reservists, some spots are reserved for political appointees, both the NYG and NYNM were used in 9/11 and Hurricane Sandy, so trust me, they&#39;re quite real, if you&#39;re not activated and want to design from NYG, I think it&#39;s allowed, though if you&#39;re activated, you&#39;re paid unless you waive pay, I would&#39;ve waived pay had I been allowed, obviously, if the disability hadn&#39;t gotten in the way, NYG had an army and air div, the air div failed apparently so it was scrapped, NYG is strictly army model now, their patch says NY Guard, not US Army, our dentist opted for ARNG after being NYG for awhile, NYG typically releases those accepted for Federal svc, if one gets in while a NYG mbrs, as I&#39;d said, not all states have such militias, however, had I known such a way to test the active duty waters existed before I&#39;d gone Army ROTC then USAF OTS, I obv would&#39;ve very seriously considered trying that route grst, to see if the existence was for me, before committing to king Federal, I !erel suggest it to you as one alternative, I&#39;ll try t offer others as well, however, that&#39;s the closest to the Federal I know of that isn&#39;t Federal per se, OK? <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.sgaus.org">www.sgaus.org</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description"></p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Capt Daniel Goodman Fri, 09 Nov 2018 20:55:07 -0500 2018-11-09T20:55:07-05:00 Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Nov 9 at 2018 9:15 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4114408&urlhash=4114408 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a target="_blank" href="http://www.cgqux.org">http://www.cgqux.org</a><br /><br />This isn&#39;t active duty Federal, however, unlike Civil Air Patrol (CAP), which does get tasked with real missions, USCG Aux is classed under the Geneva Convention as an instrumentality of the USCG, a different legal class of entity, letting it do things with its civilian mbrs that CAP cant, doesn&#39;t, and won&#39;t, obviously. Look up AUXOPS, which let&#39;s civ mbrs stand radio watches at USCG facilities, assist with cooking, act as gate guards, with adequate training...there&#39;s also a masters in homeland stuff I&#39;d seen a site for, where USCG Aux pays for a masters, I think it was Washington state flotilla site, it was gven at a homeland school attached I think to Naval Postgraduate School (NPS) as a tenant organization, as I recall, however, the competition for it is pretty serious, and you&#39;d only stand a chance after extensive training with them...separately, if you&#39;re a civilian clinician of use to USCG, other than PAs, USCG has their own of those, RNs, NPs, MDs, and DOs, both allopathic and osteopathic physicians, there are two types not just one, most tend to not know that, I&#39;d wanted to go DO, I was never able, can actually assist USPHS clinicians at USCG clinical facilities, I&#39;d wanted to be a flight surgeon back when I&#39;d had delusions of grandeur, had I known of USPHS, I&#39;d have also gone that route for Federal, I trained under an O-6 in USPHS while doing my doctorate before my disability, trust me, look at both USCG Aux, they have surface and aviation fllotillas, the aviation flotillas use aviation observers, I&#39;d wanted it, the disability bollixed that up also, I&#39;m afraid, also, look at CAP, USCG uses member owned planes, CAP has their own corporate planes, they&#39;re a corporation chartered by Congress since WW2, USCG Aux isn&#39;t a corporation in the same sense, that&#39;s why it&#39;s classed as an instrumentality, whereas CAP isn&#39;t, however, sevl CAP mbrs got serious decorations in WW2, incl for sinking at least one, I think two, German sub&#39;s, look up Maj Wynant Farr and Capt Johnny Haggin, the latter got an Air Medal, they sank one of the wubs off the East coast, you&#39;d find it a fascinating story, USC tasks USCG Aux with missions, USAF Air Mobility Command (AMC) I thjnk, it used to be Mil Airlift Command (MAC), tasks CSP, mainly with search and rescue, though I&#39;ve seen sites about higher level stuff they sometimes apparently also assist with, things like helping catch bad guys to at least some extent, though I know little about that beyond a few vague references I&#39;d seen, USAFR also let&#39;s mbrs drill with CAP, I&#39;d very seriously looked into that, and did in fact ask about it, though I never did it, I never knew if USCGR did the same for its mbrs with USCG Aux, I&#39;d always wondered if that was allowed, obviously, I never had the chance to check thus far, trust me, I&#39;ll suggest other things, however, look both of those over as well, OK? <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.cgqux.org">www.cgqux.org</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description"></p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Capt Daniel Goodman Fri, 09 Nov 2018 21:15:53 -0500 2018-11-09T21:15:53-05:00 Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Nov 9 at 2018 9:21 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4114421&urlhash=4114421 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>And CAP I think has a program to teacvg adults private pilot level, for mission qualification, I know they have the cadet stuff for sailplanes, as part of their whole STEM thing, I&#39;d helped a CAP cadet squadron where I&#39;d been assigned for awhile when I&#39;d been in, they&#39;re a very serious group, cadets who I think get a Billy Mitchell award can be waived from USAF basic training, it might be the Hap Arnold award, I do know they have a very serious cadet program, I&#39;d nearly joined a unit as a kid, about the same time I was a Boy Scout, though in tat I only got to 1st Class, I&#39;m afraid, I never did the CAP, I knew w friend who had, he&#39;d gotten almost into USAF Academy, however, that&#39;s another long, very unfortunately tragic story, I&#39;m afraid, I&#39;ll save that for another time, it was many years ago, as well...Navy Sea Cadets are similar to CAP, a good clinical friend of mine, his youngest boy was Navy Sea Cadets in high school, he&#39;s undergrad now, there even stricter tan CAP, with a very active STEM program, you might also seek to volunteer with them, possibly, as well.... Capt Daniel Goodman Fri, 09 Nov 2018 21:21:23 -0500 2018-11-09T21:21:23-05:00 Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Nov 9 at 2018 9:38 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4114447&urlhash=4114447 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a target="_blank" href="http://www.usphs.gov">http://www.usphs.gov</a><br /><br />Look at USPHS Commissioned Corps, they use engineers, as well as IT for health system mgmt, there active duty, as I&#39;d said, their toll free is [login to see] , now, you need to understand very clearly, you might well encounter the sa!e restrictions, however, they don&#39;t solely use clinicians, look at their Jr and Sr COSTEP, their analogue to ROTC, if I could&#39;ve gone with them, I would&#39;ve, God knows I&#39;d wanted to after training with their O-6 while doing my doctorate, as I&#39;d said...just understand, their age limit is higher, 44, I think, plus, teyre direct commission, their professional group is COA-USPHS, their commissioned officer assoc, I don&#39;t know if they&#39;d let you in, also, they run a civilian reserve, I forget the name, I&#39;ll look it up, oh yeah, the Medical Reserve Corps (MRC), also used in 9/11 and Hurricane Sandy up by us, they aid in disaster relief, USPHS supervises it, our dentist suggested it for me, I&#39;ve given it thought, certainly...now realize, IF they&#39;d allow you in on active, which, of course, I don&#39;t know, you&#39;d likely need to be waivered, however, typically while some of their psych staff often can be assigned to Army, Navy, and USAF on 3 yr tours, as there&#39;s a formal agreement site about that, they&#39;re not typically combat personnel which is why I suggest it, they&#39;re assigned to NIH, FDA, CDC, Brueau of Prisons, the Indian reservations, which was where the O-6 I trained under ran a clinic, I&#39;d always wished I&#39;d gone with him there, I never did, also many other Federal organizations, so, if you&#39;d be willing to consider engineering, clinical, IT, comp sci (CS), and try for COSTEP waiver, or to get degreed first, and ask for an active duty waiver, you MIGHT stand a chance, ESP if you were medicine, however, once again, honestly, I don&#39;t know what their rules are about such things, generally, if a field is critical enough, as with medicine, I&#39;ve seen weird exceptions made, however, you&#39;d need to call tjem, and very seriously researc it, maybe seek Congressional endorsements, so, if you&#39;d care to elaborate in a detailed biosketch as to your interests, ambitions, motivations, and flexibility, also hobbies, sports, esp martial arts, whether you run, how far, how fast, level of physical fitness, I MIGHT be able to suggest some possibiltes, in Army ROTV I had to run 2 mi in 18 mins in fatigues and combat boots, at USAF OTS at Lacklamd, it&#39;s at Maxwell now, I had to in 1-1/2 mi in 12 mins in shorts and sneakers, USPHS tightened things considerably after 9/11, there&#39;s a room on here for them, I&#39;ve seen it, you might look for it, the O-6 I trained under often wore civ clothes, sometimes his uniform, not always though, they wear naval uniforms, with variations, due to their origin in the US Marine hospitals, that handled places like Ellis Island for immigration checks for public health, so trust me again, and look at and call tjem, OK? I&#39;ll suggest more as well, hopefully in a few mins, OK? <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.usphs.gov">www.usphs.gov</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description"></p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Capt Daniel Goodman Fri, 09 Nov 2018 21:38:06 -0500 2018-11-09T21:38:06-05:00 Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Nov 9 at 2018 9:47 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4114467&urlhash=4114467 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Next, if you want to go undergrad, in a military college environment, look at the various state maritime colleges, that let students generally do the regimental stuff without being in an NROTC, if ty want to try for USCG licensure in the Merchant Marine, as 3rd !ate and/or engineer...also, the Seafarer&#39;s Intl Union runs a quasi-military Merchant Marine enlisted program, up through bosun level, incl ordinary and able bodies seaman, called the Paul Hall Cte, formerly the Harry Lundeberg School, in Piney Point, MD, my Dad had mentioned it to me as a kid, many prior active duty submit there thy get you one spot first out, thee have deck, engine, and galley curricula, there affiliated with a community college in MD, and ha follow on Merchant Marine officer training, I&#39;m not saying you&#39;d want it, I merelymenton it to !make you aware of it, that&#39;s all, honest, however as with all I&#39;ve suggested, I don&#39;t know their clinical restrictions, you understand...should yu care to chat further, just ask, trust me and check what I&#39;ve told you about...also, for USPHS, look at the USUHS med school, which allows UEPHS grads, it&#39;s the mil med school, you might need to do it in the Caribbean, however, if you&#39;re medicine, you as I&#39;d said, or other clinical field, esp psych nursing or social work, be able to MAYBE seek a waiver, if the need is great enough, and your health would be otherwise unimpaired, though, of course, I have zero clue if it&#39;d be allowed, you understand, OK? If you&#39;d care to chat as I&#39;d said, just ask, I&#39;d be most eager to see any elaboration you might care to send, if I can suggest more, I&#39;ll try as well, OK? Capt Daniel Goodman Fri, 09 Nov 2018 21:47:45 -0500 2018-11-09T21:47:45-05:00 Response by MSgt Mark Bucher made Nov 9 at 2018 11:57 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4114698&urlhash=4114698 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You&#39;re medically disqualified. There are no magic congressional waivers for medical issues. Don&#39;t let people try to tell you differently, just isn&#39;t so. Sorry MSgt Mark Bucher Fri, 09 Nov 2018 23:57:48 -0500 2018-11-09T23:57:48-05:00 Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2018 12:12 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4114713&urlhash=4114713 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It&#39;s not the end of your military career because you never had a chance to even start a military career. You had been told countless times you cannot serve with one kidney. Then, you tried to rub it in our faces that you took the ASVAB and that you are one step closer to getting in. In which we ALL told you that it still will not happen. We have been telling you since DAY ONE that you will not be allowed entrance into the Military. Your ASVAB score will NOT get MEPS to reconsider. Why? Because they HAVE TO FOLLOW THE REGULATIONS. The very regulations you have been shown. The regulations that state you are not qualified for entry. But, if you want to call MEPS and explain you got a 94, by all means go ahead and call. Don&#39;t be surprised if you hear a &quot;click&quot; when they hang up. You want to call your Congressional Representative.....by all means. But don&#39;t be surprised when you hear the same sound MEPS will make. <br /><br />Against my better judgement, I will grant some advice. You want to serve the Military, find a suitable civilian career that supports the Military. For example, DoD Civilian employment. It&#39;s good pay. It&#39;s good benefits. You will never wear the uniform, but there are many ways in which you can help those that do. <br /><br />Your fight is over. There is no more fight left in this arena. MSG Private RallyPoint Member Sat, 10 Nov 2018 00:12:31 -0500 2018-11-10T00:12:31-05:00 Response by SSG Laurie Mullen made Nov 10 at 2018 2:00 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4114832&urlhash=4114832 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>SURPRISE!!!! SSG Laurie Mullen Sat, 10 Nov 2018 02:00:32 -0500 2018-11-10T02:00:32-05:00 Response by SFC Joseph Weber made Nov 10 at 2018 9:21 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4115296&urlhash=4115296 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Delete your Rallypoint account and go away. SFC Joseph Weber Sat, 10 Nov 2018 09:21:52 -0500 2018-11-10T09:21:52-05:00 Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Nov 11 at 2018 1:08 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4117174&urlhash=4117174 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You could write your Congressional Representative, their staffers will process your request and send it to the Office of Legislative Liaison and they&#39;ll send it to which ever service&#39;s recruiting command. They&#39;ll send back the answer from the regulation and DoDI. There it will likely end. <br /><br />The French Foriegn Legion Or The Israeli Defense Force may be able to accept you. I don&#39;t mention these to mock you, just that they are there. <br /><br />As <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="148812" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/148812-79s-career-counselor-usaraf-hq-usaraf-setaf">SFC Private RallyPoint Member</a> said there are other ways to serve the community and the nation. The CIA, the other intelligence services, UPHS, DoD Civilian, Federal CIVMAR, first responder etc etc are all options. LTC Jason Mackay Sun, 11 Nov 2018 01:08:37 -0500 2018-11-11T01:08:37-05:00 Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 11 at 2018 10:59 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4119330&urlhash=4119330 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Try the Navy, Coast Guard and Marines. They&#39;ll tell you no, but at least you&#39;ll finally understand no branch will take you. SPC Private RallyPoint Member Sun, 11 Nov 2018 22:59:16 -0500 2018-11-11T22:59:16-05:00 Response by SN Greg Wright made Nov 13 at 2018 4:07 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4123962&urlhash=4123962 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You realize that there are SEVEN uniformed services, right? I suggest you look into the two you HAVEN&#39;T heard about. They very likely have much less stringent rules since they&#39;re not combat services. And the only reason I&#39;m helping you out like this is because you actually came back and admitted that you were wrong. SN Greg Wright Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:07:00 -0500 2018-11-13T16:07:00-05:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2018 2:50 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4141901&urlhash=4141901 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You cannot join with one kidney. I have seen people get a PDQ with 3 kidneys. Standards are elastic, but not that elastic. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 20 Nov 2018 02:50:14 -0500 2018-11-20T02:50:14-05:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 2 at 2018 11:01 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4177665&urlhash=4177665 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No, you never had a military career. You didn’t even make it to the interview stage of the hiring process when it comes down to it. I think we can all appreciate your eagerness to serve but not many are feeling sorry for you with the way you trashed people on here who were actually trying to help you. You’ll not be in the Air Force or any other branch even with the help of a congressman. There is a DoDI that specifically lists your lacking a kidney as a disqualifying medical condition. Sorry but that’s just too bad. Your only chance at contributing when it comes to the military is as a DoD civilian. Sometimes things just don’t work out the way you want. I’d still suggest an attitude adjustment even without an enlistment. There are very few work environments conducive to the one you’ve shown. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Sun, 02 Dec 2018 23:01:51 -0500 2018-12-02T23:01:51-05:00 Response by SrA Rebecca Jaffee made Dec 15 at 2018 8:46 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4209822&urlhash=4209822 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Hallelujah. There is a god. SrA Rebecca Jaffee Sat, 15 Dec 2018 08:46:08 -0500 2018-12-15T08:46:08-05:00 Response by COL John McClellan made Dec 15 at 2018 8:56 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4209838&urlhash=4209838 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sad to say it probably is. My experience with DODMERB, they are not going to be swayed by your potential - they do medical evaluations against a very exacting standard. Unless you can directly dispute the medical portion, you may have to come to terms with not being able to qualify. COL John McClellan Sat, 15 Dec 2018 08:56:30 -0500 2018-12-15T08:56:30-05:00 Response by TSgt David Holman made Jan 4 at 2019 1:44 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4259038&urlhash=4259038 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You have been disqualified. You lack the physical requirements to join, you lack the mental maturity to serve, and quite honestly you would be a danger to anyone in your unit if you joined based on the few posts you have here. You have shown a blast any disrespect toward any and all members who have told you the truth, and I have no reason to believe that you would be any different if you made it through. Honestly, one of the site administrators should look at your account and consider deleting it or blocking it. <br /><br />If you do write your congressman I am sure that he will tell you “Thank you for your interest in serving, however, you have been found to be outside of a non-waiver able medical condition.” Stop waisting recruiters time, eating MEPS resources, and annoying/disrespecting members on this board who have tried to help you TSgt David Holman Fri, 04 Jan 2019 13:44:11 -0500 2019-01-04T13:44:11-05:00 Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 7 at 2019 3:50 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4428925&urlhash=4428925 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Maybe the Doc at MEPS has a profile on Rally Point. MAJ Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 07 Mar 2019 15:50:16 -0500 2019-03-07T15:50:16-05:00 Response by Bryce Leinan made Mar 10 at 2019 3:00 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4436736&urlhash=4436736 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I couldn’t join the military because I had a brain hemorrhage when I was an infant. I’ve found other ways to serve - I’m currently in the Coast Guard Auxiliary, and have a blast doing what I can do there. It doesn’t confer veteran status, but I’m still serving the community. That’s the best you can do, however, I will caution you that if you have a major chip on your shoulder, the Auxiliary isn’t for you. The Civil Air Patrol is another place you can serve as well. Bryce Leinan Sun, 10 Mar 2019 15:00:22 -0400 2019-03-10T15:00:22-04:00 Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2019 7:36 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4558889&urlhash=4558889 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I’d say look towards different ways. Your condition prevents you from joining. But your attitude from your last post makes me think karma exists. The military is not easy no body has a right to serve some make the cut some don’t that’s just how life is. Plenty of people score 90+ doesn’t mean they should get in especially if lacking the right attitude SGT Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 19 Apr 2019 07:36:22 -0400 2019-04-19T07:36:22-04:00 Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2019 7:38 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4558896&urlhash=4558896 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>P.S. what career? SGT Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 19 Apr 2019 07:38:12 -0400 2019-04-19T07:38:12-04:00 Response by SGT Nathan G. made May 14 at 2019 11:42 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4636335&urlhash=4636335 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Many others have tried given you advice. Although enlisting is a great milestone in any person&#39;s life, it doesn&#39;t mean that your life is over. There are many civilian jobs you can get and be able to provide for yourself and possibly a future family. I suggest trying to get into a great college with the intelligence you have and simply attempt to work on education as it is important. <br />Overall, you need to accept that you are never going to serve in the military. It is not because you as a person will not make it, but the fact your body will not be able to compensate the training and lifestyle due to your one kidney. I may be just a PFC, but you will be a liability on the battlefield if you managed to get pas MEPS and possibly endanger others if something were to befall your only kidney.<br /><br />To reiterate, go seek higher education and stop worrying about enlisting in the military. It is NOT happening even if you try fighting it. SGT Nathan G. Tue, 14 May 2019 23:42:32 -0400 2019-05-14T23:42:32-04:00 Response by SCPO Lonny Randolph made May 15 at 2019 9:27 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4637166&urlhash=4637166 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Seriously, your attitude is your worst disqualifier... please delete your account, go away, and NEVER CALL HERE AGAIN... Nuttin but love tho... SCPO Lonny Randolph Wed, 15 May 2019 09:27:48 -0400 2019-05-15T09:27:48-04:00 Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2019 1:28 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4645783&urlhash=4645783 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>End of your military career? You never had one to begin with. It&#39;s also not a career, it&#39;s a service. If you wish to server your country, you can do it in many other ways besides military service. Best of luck with your future endeavors. SSgt Private RallyPoint Member Sat, 18 May 2019 01:28:13 -0400 2019-05-18T01:28:13-04:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 22 at 2019 6:30 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4743946&urlhash=4743946 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well, after all the time waisted here can one of the Admins please delete this kids Account? They are no longer a potential recruit and have no business on here. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Sat, 22 Jun 2019 18:30:28 -0400 2019-06-22T18:30:28-04:00 Response by PVT Mark Zehner made Jun 28 at 2019 4:20 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=4761206&urlhash=4761206 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes it ended before it began. Have you thought about becoming a contractor? Not military but could be a substitute there is also becoming a police officer or firefighter. Best of luck PVT Mark Zehner Fri, 28 Jun 2019 16:20:27 -0400 2019-06-28T16:20:27-04:00 Response by SPC Theresa Villanueva made Oct 13 at 2019 12:41 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=5122328&urlhash=5122328 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don&#39;t think so. You would be a liability. You were warned that you wouldn&#39;t make it in SPC Theresa Villanueva Sun, 13 Oct 2019 12:41:20 -0400 2019-10-13T12:41:20-04:00 Response by TSgt Gerald Wilson made Nov 4 at 2019 9:46 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=5202433&urlhash=5202433 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>All the people who told you it&#39;s a no-go to begin with were trying to help you face reality. We all knew the kidney is a deal-killer no matter what - despite whatever slick recruiter-speak was laid on you. Much more important, you were told that your attitude sucks which it absolutely does. I&#39;ll go a step further: You wouldn&#39;t make it through 1 term in any branch of the military even if you were the finest physical specimen in the history of MEPS. Also, the civilian work force where you&#39;re headed is actually LESS patient with petulant bullshit than we are. They&#39;ll just fire you whereas the military will try for a while to fix whatever defect is afflicting you. Forget the military and get a life coach. Seriously. TSgt Gerald Wilson Mon, 04 Nov 2019 21:46:22 -0500 2019-11-04T21:46:22-05:00 Response by PFC Lisa McDonald made Aug 4 at 2020 11:01 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=6175748&urlhash=6175748 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>To be honest with you 94 on the asvab is only 24 points above needing a waiver for low intelligence. From the sound of the responses I am questioning if they refused to waive your much below 94 asvab score. PFC Lisa McDonald Tue, 04 Aug 2020 23:01:12 -0400 2020-08-04T23:01:12-04:00 Response by SGT Barbara Rufino made Apr 12 at 2024 8:20 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-ve-just-been-disqualified-from-the-air-force-is-this-really-the-end-of-my-military-career?n=8724995&urlhash=8724995 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It going to be very difficult. SGT Barbara Rufino Fri, 12 Apr 2024 08:20:36 -0400 2024-04-12T08:20:36-04:00 2018-11-09T14:15:30-05:00