CPT Private RallyPoint Member 7550042 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I want to hear your take on The Ukraine Crisis (Russia&#39;s invasion of Ukraine). This is strictly opinion based, I encourage sharing ideas and debate, but lets not attack each other for differing views and opposing beliefs. What do you think the US response to the Ukraine Crisis (Russia's invasion of Ukraine) should be moving forward? 2022-03-01T11:31:48-05:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 7550042 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I want to hear your take on The Ukraine Crisis (Russia&#39;s invasion of Ukraine). This is strictly opinion based, I encourage sharing ideas and debate, but lets not attack each other for differing views and opposing beliefs. What do you think the US response to the Ukraine Crisis (Russia's invasion of Ukraine) should be moving forward? 2022-03-01T11:31:48-05:00 2022-03-01T11:31:48-05:00 MSG Stan Hutchison 7550116 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I know this will bring some nasty comments. but I think POTUS has done a good job of uniting NATO and other European countries. I wish he had started earlier, but I understand his desire to gather as much support from other nations as possible. <br />I have asked repeatedly what we can and should do, with very little response. Let&#39;s see how this thread goes. Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Mar 1 at 2022 12:20 PM 2022-03-01T12:20:11-05:00 2022-03-01T12:20:11-05:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 7550147 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Thank God for some previous USA faltering with other military engagements. <br /><br />I&#39;m really happy to see the WORLD stepping up. <br /><br />I suspect Putin was thinking of a USA/NATO response and now the WORLD seems to be leaving him in the lurch. Maybe I&#39;m over estimating the impact, but what an IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All those foreign reserves Putin squirreled away that are not actual HARD CASH in PHYSICAL possession INSIDE RUSSIA are now WORTHLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are probably also going to be used in the future to pay Ukraine restitution. None of that would be possible without the WORLD stepping up. Putin didn&#39;t plan for that. I didn&#39;t expect that either.<br /><br />Other nations in the region now realize, yep, the USA is probably not going to have your back when bullets start flying and they have stepped it up MUCH MUCH sooner. If you don&#39;t want Russians walking across YOUR boarders it&#39;s YOUR soldiers that will have to stop them (not The USA). <br /><br />***************<br />That all said, a week ago I thought very strongly (and still do to much of an extent, but it has lessened) that before this ends (I as a USAR soldier) I&#39;m going to find myself activated and have a little trip to Europe or somewhere. To the point I&#39;m pondering where I want to place myself in the USAR with a position transfer so I&#39;m either poised to be in a position of probable maximum participation or poised to remain CONUS (i.e. Drill SGT Company command likely to be activated as a TRADOC asset for mass ramp up). <br /><br />*****************<br />Finally........ to answer the OP&#39;s question. I think US participation should be ready to position ourselves to go into this full force. I hope we continue to see the rest of the world take a lead in reacting to Russia. <br /><br />Putin really F-&#39;d up. Regardless, all of Western Europe probably doesn&#39;t want to end up like Ukraine and doesn&#39;t trust the USA deterrence will work. So at the end of all this Western Europe is going to remilitarize and I could see Ukraine nuclearizing. Right? I mean Ukraine gave up their nukes for safety promises and looked what happened. Then after all that, who from the west is really interested in doing business in Russia going forward while Putin is around. <br /><br />We are a loooong way from this being over. It could go terribly wrong. It all hinges on Putin&#39;s willingness to take everyone else down (tossing nukes) with him, and his command and control structure willing to turn BOTH launch keys when he says so. Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2022 12:36 PM 2022-03-01T12:36:07-05:00 2022-03-01T12:36:07-05:00 MSG Private RallyPoint Member 7550167 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well....personally, I think the US and other NATO forces should have taken positions inside Ukraine (with Ukrainian permission, of course). <br /><br />However, since that horse escaped the barn....the response from the US and NATO should proceed as is. They are staging in case this escalates worse, plus sending supplies and equipment. The US and NATO certainly need to be ready to swing that bat, though, since Putin is just crazy enough to throw us a pitch. Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2022 12:47 PM 2022-03-01T12:47:21-05:00 2022-03-01T12:47:21-05:00 MCPO Roger Collins 7550182 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The term flaccid and lacking comes to mind. Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Mar 1 at 2022 12:51 PM 2022-03-01T12:51:57-05:00 2022-03-01T12:51:57-05:00 SGM Bill Frazer 7550206 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m not impressed w/POTUS, believe it may be not enough and too late. During his indecision and waffling, Putin took heart that we would do nothing. History proves over and over again that the Bear is never satisfied and always hungry for more. He and his hardliners hunger for a return of the old USSR. To them Ukrainians, Poles, Latvians, etc. do not count. Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Mar 1 at 2022 1:02 PM 2022-03-01T13:02:57-05:00 2022-03-01T13:02:57-05:00 SSgt Christophe Murphy 7550223 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I’m not sure what the approach should be. I do think a major factor is that massive convoy headed to Kyiv. The city is the heart of the Country and if Kyiv holds or falls will dictate what happens next. That convoy just seems like an obvious target. Something should be done by coalition forces to slow and/or divert that thing. Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Mar 1 at 2022 1:12 PM 2022-03-01T13:12:05-05:00 2022-03-01T13:12:05-05:00 CSM Darieus ZaGara 7550276 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We, the US and G7 have missed several opportunities. We will now struggle with the supply chain, getting food, supplies and weapons into the country. The leading Nations of the world need to suck it up and immediately cancel all trade starting with oil and gas. The US has not taken the lead in anything, we have acted only after others say they will. Even Canada has set standards where we lack. Let’s prepare to sacrifice, if we do not we will pay later. Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Mar 1 at 2022 1:39 PM 2022-03-01T13:39:11-05:00 2022-03-01T13:39:11-05:00 Sgt Private RallyPoint Member 7550413 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m all about &quot;better dead than red,&quot; but I think this is Ukraine and Europe&#39;s problem. Let the UN and NATO sort this out. Sure, we should be sending them weapons. Not the blankets that Obama sent them, but the Stingers that Trump did.<br />There should be no direct US military involvement.<br />Ukraine does nothing for us, other than for Hunter Biden. Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2022 3:09 PM 2022-03-01T15:09:26-05:00 2022-03-01T15:09:26-05:00 LTC Private RallyPoint Member 7550427 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am not &quot;In the Know&quot; about everything we have done to prepare but sending the 173rd to the Baltic States and a BCT of 3ID to Poland is a good strategic move. It forces Russia to not commit more forces to Ukraine.<br /><br />From Russian performance in Ukraine so far. This may be all we need to do. Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2022 3:25 PM 2022-03-01T15:25:00-05:00 2022-03-01T15:25:00-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 7550526 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If we are going to play the sanctions game, it needs to be 100%. The UN, NATO, and the EU all need to be in, full kit. No flights to or from russia will land or take off from UN, EU, or NATO nations. No commerce between russia and UN, EU, and NATO nations. No barges to or from Russian ports will dock in UN, EU, or NATO nation ports. Cut off their communications. Cut off their funds. Cut off their commerce. Cut off their oil. Cut off their food. A total blockade by a united front. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2022 4:41 PM 2022-03-01T16:41:58-05:00 2022-03-01T16:41:58-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 7550537 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I’ve seen a lot of people both here and elsewhere advocate for a war that they themselves would not participate in…<br /><br />I am very personally invested in this. I am half Ukrainian and Ukraine has always been my dream travel destination. I was raised very deeply in the culture. If nuclear weapons were off the table…I’d be itching to go fight. <br /><br />But nuclear weapons are on the table. Putin has broken with decades of calculated decisions and is acting more and more irrationally. We cannot discount that he’d push the button and Berlin, London, even New York is an instant wasteland. <br /><br />So we make Ukraine our proxy. We throw every weapon and piece of equipment the world can spare at their army and keep them coming until the Russians lose their ability or will to fight. We help the Ukrainians take tiny bites out of the big bear until it doesn’t want to fight anymore. <br /><br />And we rebuild the iron curtain but with the guns pointed the other way. We stack formations to the west and north of Ukraine like the world has never seen as a fence against one Russian taking one step further. The fear of nuclear escalation is very real at this point…but not even that can deter all actions. <br /><br />As the losses mount and the sanctions pile up, the Russian people will suffer. They may well end this for us. The oligarchs are starting to slip away from Putin, the Army is disgruntled and potentially running low on supplies…<br /><br />We keep it coming. All of it. We break their banks and we break their forces and we break their will. And then the Russians will break Putin. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2022 4:51 PM 2022-03-01T16:51:33-05:00 2022-03-01T16:51:33-05:00 Lt Col Jim Coe 7550544 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe the US should not commit forces to fighting in Ukraine. We don&#39;t need to get into another war, especially with a nuclear-armed Russia. Mr. Putin could just smile and tell us it&#39;s time to play thermonuclear war. I participated in exercises based on a nuclear exchange with a near-peer adversary back in the 1980s. It was pretty scary. The potential level of destruction is unimaginable. We can use other dimensions of power: economic, diplomatic, information. If we do it correctly, we won&#39;t precipitate a nuclear confrontation.<br /><br />On the other hand, I think positioning US Forces in Eastern NATO countries is a good idea. It may deter Russia from trying another land grab. I think Putin is very concerned about going to war with NATO. We have to help him believe the alliance will stick together and fight him if he attacks one of the NATO States. I&#39;ve also been part of NATO exercises and meetings. The alliance members appear to not be united sometimes, but I think a conventional arms attack of a NATO nation will bring them together like little else could. A nuclear attack on a NATO nation will absolutely cement the alliance. Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Mar 1 at 2022 4:59 PM 2022-03-01T16:59:32-05:00 2022-03-01T16:59:32-05:00 PFC Private RallyPoint Member 7550591 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think going forward we should drop troops into Germany, Poland, Lithonia, ect. Continue to sanction Russia. We need to be prepared in case Putin takes Ukraine. If he gets one Baltic nation he won&#39;t stop until he gets the reunification of the former Russian empire like he wants. I think we&#39;ve side stepped this the best we can. No one but Putin wants this war honestly. Putin is facing opposition from the west, the us, G7 nations and soon is own people. It&#39;s time for him to be locked away in a white room where he will be of no danger to anyone but himself. Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 1 at 2022 5:35 PM 2022-03-01T17:35:45-05:00 2022-03-01T17:35:45-05:00 SSG Carlos Madden 7550599 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Right now, whatever air defense and anti armor assets we can provide we should. RUS can always untie it&#39;s other hand and level whatever city it wants. Providing assets like C-RAM could help lessen the impact of those capabilities - and save civilian life and moral. <br /><br />The other thing is intel. I hope Secret Squirrels from CIA are already on the ground providing tactical intel for Ukraine&#39;s defense forces. I hate to use the term &quot;force multiplier&quot; but the importance of rapid and accurate intel during this stage cannot be understated. Response by SSG Carlos Madden made Mar 1 at 2022 5:45 PM 2022-03-01T17:45:20-05:00 2022-03-01T17:45:20-05:00 SFC Casey O'Mally 7551836 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m going to answer in the spirit the question was presented (or at least how I think it was presented). No discussion of yesterday, last week, or last year, or who did what with whom for how many cookies. Just looking at the situation TODAY (March 2nd, 2022) and what needs to happen (or what I think needs to happen) going forward.<br /><br />First: sanctions. Sanctions have historically not mattered much to Putin. However, sanctions have also never been used to this extent with Russia. I believe that, if we can weather the negative effects on our economy AND, more importantly, Europe can weather the effects on theirs (which are bound to be worse for them than us), the sanctions currently in place will have the effect of stopped ng the Russian military... Eventually. Europe is standing tall, here, and the US is playing along and coaxing everyone else to join in. So much so that major international companies are leaving billions on the table and abandoning deals in Russia. This is a great first step.<br /><br />But it is only a first step. If we stick with sanctions, Russia&#39;s military WILL be thwarted. But not before they swallow the Ukraine. It will be an uneasy occupation, based on how tough the Ukrainians have been so far. But it will be an occupation - complete and total. Think US in Afghanistan or Iraq.<br /><br />So... Second: non-BOG military aid. Intelligence, weapons, ADA, medical. This isn&#39;t our war, so we shouldn&#39;t be sending Americans to die. But this is our CAUSE, so we should give them everything they need to fight for themselves.<br /><br />Third: non-military aid. Ukraine used to be the Soviet Union&#39;s &quot;bread basket.&quot;. They are more or less capable of supporting themselves... When everyone is there and working their normal jobs. A large portion of the women and children have fled (understandably so - no judgment here) and most of the men are now Soldiers. Very few folks are left tending the fields and the animals, working the mills, baking the bread, butchering the cattle, etc. Send them the food, blankets, clothes, and medical supplies they need to sustain themselves for the fight. Beans and bandages are more important to the long term success of an Army than bullets and bombs.<br /><br />Fourth: Accept more refugees. Not from the Ukraine - they are nearly ALL going to Eastern Europe in the hope they can return home. But from the middle east and north Africa that HAD been going to Eastern Europe. Help relieve the refugee pressure on those nations so they have the capacity to accept Ukrainians. (I know this one will be controversial. But the US already doesn&#39;t do enough, comparatively, for middle east refugees, IMO.). Yes, this will require additional resources for state and homeland security to ensure proper screening, reception, and placement.<br /><br />Fifth: military aid for NATO partners in Eastern Europe. This isn&#39;t our fight. But it is Estonia&#39;s, Poland&#39;s, Lithuania&#39;s and Latvia&#39;s. If Putin takes Ukraine and is able to hold and pacify it, then it is only a matter of time until he swallows Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia. And then moves on to Poland. If we can support those nations by backfilling their national defense, it will free them up to go to Ukraine&#39;s aid. But if I were the Defense Minister for any of those countries, I wouldn&#39;t risk my own national defense to support Ukraine. It would be too easy for Russia (or Russia&#39;s puppet, Belarus) to turn and catch me with my pants down. However, if the US has troops stationed there supplementing a NATO partner, it would (most likely) prevent a Russian incursion into those states.<br /><br /><br />That&#39;s how I would do it. If course, all of that will cost money. A lot of it. And as a small government, low tax conservative, I am not sure I am comfortable with the bill for that. I can definitely support 1 and 2. Almost definitely 3, probably 4. I don&#39;t know about 5. I would have to see budget numbers, and where they could be offset (for instance, some military training can be canceled, as those troops would be getting real-world experience, and we can likely offset some of the humanitarian aid costs through NGOs).<br /><br />Probably way more than you were asking for, but a complex problem demands a complex solution. Bumper sticker slogans only work for getting elected, not for actually running things. Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made Mar 2 at 2022 12:35 PM 2022-03-02T12:35:37-05:00 2022-03-02T12:35:37-05:00 MAJ Byron Oyler 7552155 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It disgusts me this is happening in 2022 and if I lived in Europe I would consider going to fight. That said, I do not feel we should be doing anything more than Europe is doing. If Europe is dumb enough to let this happen it again than they can deal with their inaction. One of these generations they need to put on their big boy pants and stop bad things from happening and I am not interested in US blood being shed over there. Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Mar 2 at 2022 4:03 PM 2022-03-02T16:03:18-05:00 2022-03-02T16:03:18-05:00 SPC Thomas Devine 7553925 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>you have to be able understand how nato works, how can one person be responsible, his name is PUTIN, another crazy person; with his hand on the button Response by SPC Thomas Devine made Mar 3 at 2022 2:42 PM 2022-03-03T14:42:11-05:00 2022-03-03T14:42:11-05:00 LTC Ray Buenteo 7554050 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There is big talk about Putin being a war criminal and yet these world leaders are simply standing by watching Putin commit his war crimes unabated. Sanctions did not stop nor affect Putin momentum . He is willing to take the bad press to achieve Soviet dominance. His initial incursion was to expose Ukrainian defenses and capabilities . Now he is going to pound Ukraine until it surrenders or levels the entire country. He has the momentum and will not stop. Response by LTC Ray Buenteo made Mar 3 at 2022 3:25 PM 2022-03-03T15:25:10-05:00 2022-03-03T15:25:10-05:00 LTC Ray Buenteo 7554074 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The world does not have a choice. Putin has decided for the world, “fight or surrender,” but I am coming. Response by LTC Ray Buenteo made Mar 3 at 2022 3:43 PM 2022-03-03T15:43:21-05:00 2022-03-03T15:43:21-05:00 LTC Ray Buenteo 7554107 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The decision for NATO and Biden is: “Do we fight Russia in Ukraine or Eastern Europe?” Unfortunately Ukraine is the speed bump that allows NATO to prepare for The fight that is coming. Response by LTC Ray Buenteo made Mar 3 at 2022 4:13 PM 2022-03-03T16:13:45-05:00 2022-03-03T16:13:45-05:00 LTC Ray Buenteo 7554122 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Make no mistake Putin has already accepted he will have to meet NATO on the battlefield and he is prepared to go all in win or lose. Ukraine is his staging area for his move into Eastern Europe that is why he is going to level the country and drive the Ukrainian people into Eastern Europe . Putin knows he cannot stop with Ukraine he must push back into former soviet countries and reestablish soviet dominance. That 40 mile convoy is not for Ukraine that is for establishing staging areas on western ukraine border for future invasion into Western Europe. Response by LTC Ray Buenteo made Mar 3 at 2022 4:19 PM 2022-03-03T16:19:29-05:00 2022-03-03T16:19:29-05:00 CSM Darieus ZaGara 7558905 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>At this point Putin will do what he chooses. We (the rest of the free world) need to stop the madness by any means necessary. The madman will do what he will do anyway. Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Mar 6 at 2022 7:23 PM 2022-03-06T19:23:26-05:00 2022-03-06T19:23:26-05:00 SSgt Mark Meyers 7596938 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe POTUS may have caused some concerns with his statement regarding Putin should not allow in his position. Unsure believe in Leader of the Free World. We need to keep our friends close and our enemies closer Response by SSgt Mark Meyers made Mar 29 at 2022 7:49 AM 2022-03-29T07:49:33-04:00 2022-03-29T07:49:33-04:00 PV2 Terry Agee 7598004 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>On Jan. 6th, most lawmakers scattered for cover. Now, their chins are up standing with Ukraine. Arrogance without merit. Response by PV2 Terry Agee made Mar 29 at 2022 6:14 PM 2022-03-29T18:14:41-04:00 2022-03-29T18:14:41-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 7624509 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I say we don&#39;t offer US boots on ground in that area. Let&#39;s let the Europeans deal with this one. Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 14 at 2022 1:29 PM 2022-04-14T13:29:10-04:00 2022-04-14T13:29:10-04:00 SPC Cory Thomson 7641524 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I wish I could re-up and volunteer as advon for sure would love to kill some Russians. I’d need a pt clause that I don’t ever have to do it or do everything at a walk because my joints and knees WILL NOT allow me. Response by SPC Cory Thomson made Apr 24 at 2022 6:04 PM 2022-04-24T18:04:38-04:00 2022-04-24T18:04:38-04:00 Capt Rich Buckley 7651622 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-687002"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fi-want-to-hear-your-take-on-the-ukraine-crisis-russia-s-invasion-of-ukraine-what-do-you-think-the-us-response-should-be-moving-forward%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=What+do+you+think+the+US+response+to+the+Ukraine+Crisis+%28Russia%27s+invasion+of+Ukraine%29+should+be+moving+forward%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fi-want-to-hear-your-take-on-the-ukraine-crisis-russia-s-invasion-of-ukraine-what-do-you-think-the-us-response-should-be-moving-forward&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AWhat do you think the US response to the Ukraine Crisis (Russia&#39;s invasion of Ukraine) should be moving forward?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-want-to-hear-your-take-on-the-ukraine-crisis-russia-s-invasion-of-ukraine-what-do-you-think-the-us-response-should-be-moving-forward" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="b637d6d85d9cab9d9c7fd98dbc539daf" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/687/002/for_gallery_v2/558e3723.png"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/687/002/large_v3/558e3723.png" alt="558e3723" /></a></div></div>Bamboozled again. As of April 30 2022 the US is on the wrong side in the Ukraine conflict <a target="_blank" href="https://www.buckleyrealty.com/us-on-wrong-side-of-this-war-march-2022">https://www.buckleyrealty.com/us-on-wrong-side-of-this-war-march-2022</a><br /><br />We seem to be being bombarded with complex multi-dimensional energies that none of us fully understand. What seems like an evil controlling congregation of war inducing, duplicit US NATO proxy war policy, deep state hubris, corrupted governments, unconstitutional Nazi-dictates by Home Land Security, wincing, sniveling corruption of our sons and daughters of the powerful and elite, outrageous stupidity by hapless DC neocon-lobbyists to the point we are totally repulsed by it all…….. may be intensional energy gates purposely placed in our path for the acceleration of our evolution by encouraging each of us to choose.<br /><br />In other words we seem to be watching a cosmically orchestrated clown show that carry&#39;s messages within messages within messages. The purpose being to encourage as many of us to exit the experience by free-will choosing cosmic Christ energy underwriting our consciousness for this reality realm. <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://www.buckleyrealty.com/us-on-wrong-side-of-this-war-march-2022">USA ON WRONG SIDE OF THIS WAR (APRIL 29, 2022)</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">US ON WRONG SIDE OF THIS WAR (APRIL 29, 2022) by Peace And Conflict Resolution.Org a series on The Nature of War and Violence You&#39;re probably going to need some cheering up if you read this. (See Footnote #4) Realize first please that the Khazarian-Mafia...</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Response by Capt Rich Buckley made Apr 30 at 2022 11:04 AM 2022-04-30T11:04:19-04:00 2022-04-30T11:04:19-04:00 SN Kristi Kalis 7663295 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Initially my thought was the EU should be putting boots on the ground and maintaining a no-fly zone. It is in their area, so to speak. They, of course, didn&#39;t because of the &quot;leaders&quot; who are beholden to Putin. I also thought the US should help Ukraine with military equipment and humanitarian aid. <br /><br />Now, my thoughts are completely different. It is clear the EU are cowards. Germany sent military equipment that was rusted and broken. The EU continues to do massive amounts of business with Russia. If Putin isn&#39;t stopped now, there will be no stopping him in the future. The atrocities being committed are beyond the pale, and honestly causing me PTSD flare-ups. The US must do more.<br /><br />I know everyone is scared of nukes. I also know Puttin is ill and desperate. We&#39;ve sent troops to other places to &quot;protect democracy&quot; against tyrants. Why not now? Is the threat of nukes so plausible that we will continue to allow children to be raped and killed? To allow genocide? To allow Putin&#39;s dream of outdoing Hitler? My answer is a resounding NO! As we did during the Gulf War, we must be willing to kill Putin. Yeah, yeah, I know Bush called off the hit on Hussein. That was a huge blunder. We cannot repeat history. Response by SN Kristi Kalis made May 6 at 2022 8:35 PM 2022-05-06T20:35:47-04:00 2022-05-06T20:35:47-04:00 SSG John C Quigley II 7664567 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Have to admit, I am 77 years young so will not have to worry about being a part of a force that gets sent into battle. Having said that, I have to say, no to going into this conflict. We are sending them ammo and equipment to help that fight this war. If Russia were to push the envelope say with chem or tactical nuke, then the entire NATO should hit them with every thing we have. Otherwise, stay out of it. Continue sending help such as Ammo/vehicles and I would suggest that they send some of the A10&#39;s they just mothballed. Response by SSG John C Quigley II made May 7 at 2022 5:56 PM 2022-05-07T17:56:08-04:00 2022-05-07T17:56:08-04:00 Capt Rich Buckley 7670537 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-689581"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fi-want-to-hear-your-take-on-the-ukraine-crisis-russia-s-invasion-of-ukraine-what-do-you-think-the-us-response-should-be-moving-forward%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=What+do+you+think+the+US+response+to+the+Ukraine+Crisis+%28Russia%27s+invasion+of+Ukraine%29+should+be+moving+forward%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fi-want-to-hear-your-take-on-the-ukraine-crisis-russia-s-invasion-of-ukraine-what-do-you-think-the-us-response-should-be-moving-forward&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AWhat do you think the US response to the Ukraine Crisis (Russia&#39;s invasion of Ukraine) should be moving forward?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/i-want-to-hear-your-take-on-the-ukraine-crisis-russia-s-invasion-of-ukraine-what-do-you-think-the-us-response-should-be-moving-forward" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="d4675d118e8e9f81333ec0688007757c" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/689/581/for_gallery_v2/4c78f8a.jpeg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/689/581/large_v3/4c78f8a.jpeg" alt="4c78f8a" /></a></div></div>Hey doncha know them Canadians, oh boy! They got a bag load Banderites. What are Banderites? Sounds like a between meal snack, oh boy.<br /><br />The Banderites are part of the Khazarian-Mafia, described in my earlier posts <a target="_blank" href="https://tinyurl.com/2p8feuwx">https://tinyurl.com/2p8feuwx</a>. They comprise the neo-Nazis doing all they can to escalate Ukraine to nuclear war with NATO. <br /><br />From Lew Rockwell: May 11, 2022<br /><br />In previous articles, Thierry Meyssan has shown how the Banderites, collaborators of the worst Nazi exactions in Ukraine and Poland, came to power in Kiev, in the young independent Ukraine. He shows here that, for eighty years, Banderite immigrants have been embedded in the Canadian Liberal Party to the point of occupying the number two position in Justin Trudeau’s current government.<br /><br />The first foreign fighters to arrive in Ukraine at the start of the war in February, 2022 were Canadians. The first foreign officer arrested by Russian forces on May 3 was a Canadian general. Clearly, Canada, although more than 6,000 kilometers away from Ukraine, has a hidden involvement in this conflict.<br /><br />In this article, I will show that all Canadian Liberal governments have supported the Ukrainian Banderites since the beginning of the Second World War. They had it both ways during that war, fighting the Nazis, but supporting the Banderites. Worse still, the current Canadian government is composed of Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, flanked by a Banderite deputy, Chrystia Freeland.<br /><br />While the CIA’s connections to the Nazis during the Cold War were not revealed until 1975 with the Pike, Church and Rockfeller Congressional Commissions, and only ended with President Jimmy Carter, the Canadian Liberal Party’s ties to the Nazis continue. Canada is the only country in the world, outside of the Ukraine, to have a Banderite minister, and what’s more, she is the number two in its government.<br /><br />In 1940, when the United Kingdom was at war but the United States was not, the Canadian Liberal government of William King created the Ukrainian Canadian Congress (UCC) to help anti-Bolshevik immigrants against the pro-Soviet Association of United Ukrainian Canadians (AUUC) and the Canadian Jewish Congress (CJC). Pro-Soviet libraries and synagogues were banned.<br /><br />The Liberal Party of the Kingdom of Canada was not created to promote individualism against conservative ideas, but against the Republican idea [1].<br /><br />During the Second World War, Prime Minister William King was well liked by his fellow citizens, but he was booed by his soldiers when he visited them in Europe. The Liberal Party always held anti-Russian positions, presenting them as anti-Soviet until 1991, and always interpreted Christianity as opposed to Judaism.<br /><br />Also, at the end of the Second World War, Canada was the main refuge for Lyon Mackenzie (35,000 immigrants) and Baltic Nazis. Among them were Volodymyr Kubijovyč and “Michael Chomiak” whose real name was Mykhailo Khomiak, the editors of the main Nazi newspaper in Central Europe, Krakivs’ki Visti.<br /><br />Chomiak, who worked under the direct control of the Nazi Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, never denied his collaborationist past. On the contrary, he always militated for the OUN(B). It is in this spirit that he raised his granddaughter, Chrystia Freeland, the current Deputy Prime Minister of Canada. Far from condemning the crimes of the Banderites, she began her career as a journalist, at the age of 18, working for Kubijovyč’s Encyclopedia of Ukraine (now available on the Internet). Then she worked for The Ukrainian News, the newspaper of the Canadian Banderites, and The Ukrainian Weekly, the newspaper of the American Banderites linked to the ABN and the CIA. She traveled to the Soviet Union at the end of that country. The Soviet authorities questioned the Canadian government for its support of the Banderites and forbade her to return. However, after the dissolution of the USSR, she became the Moscow bureau chief of The Financial Times. Then she became deputy editor of The Globe and Mail and editor-in-chief of Thomson Reuters Digital.<br /><br />In her articles and books, Sale of the Century: Russia’s Wild Ride from Communism to Capitalism [2] and Plutocrats: The Rise of the New Global Super-Rich and the Fall of Everyone Else [3], Chrystia Freeland develops two theses dear to her grandfather.<br />She criticizes the ultra-rich by choosing almost exclusively Jewish examples.<br />She denounces at every turn the USSR, and then Russia.<br /><br />It should be remembered that fascism was a response to the economic crisis of 1929, proposing a nationalist class alliance by corporation. The nazis and Banderites added a terrible racial dimension. By targeting the super-rich, Chrystia Freeland rightly addresses the main problem of today. Today, only finance is profitable, while production is in crisis. However, she insidiously drifts towards a racial reading by noting that Jews are more numerous among the super-rich than in the population and by suggesting that this correlation is significant.<br /><br />In 1991, Polish-Ukrainian Liberal MP Borys Wrzesnewskyj intervened to make Canada the first country in the world to recognize Ukrainian independence. With his family fortune (Future Bakery), he created a service to distribute news from Ukraine to every member of parliament. He financed the archiving by Volodymyr Kubijovyč and “Michael Chomiak” of documents on Ukrainian nationalists during the Second World War. It must be admitted that the Encyclopedia of Ukraine is not a scientific work, but a rehabilitation of the Banderites and a falsification of history. Because of his family ties, Borys Wrzesnewskyj introduced the future Ukrainian president Viktor Yushchenko to Canada.<br /><br />In 1994, Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chrétien negotiated a Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation with Ukraine, and in 1996 he asked for NATO membership.<br /><br />In January 2004, Canada, under Liberal Prime Minister Paul Martin, participated in Washington’s preparation of the “Orange Revolution”. The Canadian ambassador in Kiev, Andrew Robinson, organized meetings of his colleagues from 28 countries to bring Viktor Yushchenko to power. The aim was to break the policy of President Kuchma, who had accepted Russian gas instead of favoring the US search for oil in the Caspian Sea [4].<br /><br />The Canadian ambassador financed the survey of the Ukrainian Center for Economic and Political Studies Oleksandr Razumkov, according to which the presidential election was rigged, and he also provided 30,000 dollars to the Pora! (“It is time!”) association of NATO strategist Gene Sharp [5].<br /><br />On the basis of the Razumkov poll alone, Pora! organized demonstrations, the election was cancelled and another one called. Canada spent $3 million to send 500 election observers. The second election brought Viktor Yushchenko to power. Yushchenko put together his team, choosing Vladislav Kaskiv (George Soros employee and leader of Pora!) as his special adviser and Anatoliy Gritsenko (U.S.-trained military officer and president of the Razumko Centre) as Minister of Defence.<br /><br />Liberal MP Borys Wrzesnewskyj, was particularly active during the Orange Revolution; his sister, Ruslana, being very close to Mrs. Yushchenko, Katerina Chumachenko. He invested 250,000 Canadian dollars to support the movement and used his apartment in the center of Kiev to coordinate the demonstrations between the two elections. Pora! processions chanted “Ca-na-da!” and flew the maple leaf flag.<br /><br />Chrystia Freeland began her political career in 2013 with the Liberal Party. She was elected Member of Parliament for Toronto. In 2014, she supported the “Revolution of Dignity” in Kiev (i.e. the Banderites’ coup), of which she met the main actors. She denounced the independence of Crimea and met Mustafa Dzhemilev, the famous US spy during the Cold War and leader of the Tatars. Eventually, President Vladimir Putin banned her from entering Russia.<br /><br />She was appointed Minister of Foreign Trade by Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in 2015, then Minister of Foreign Affairs in 2017 and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs in 2019 with the dignity of Deputy Prime Minister. She became Minister of Finance in 2020.<br /><br />In 2014, Conservative Foreign Minister John Baird visited Maidan Square and met with the main leaders of the protest. Canadian Television considered that he was thus giving an argument to President Putin’s version that this revolution is only a Western manipulation.<br /><br />The embassy’s spokeswoman, Inna Tsarkova, was one of the leaders of the AutoMaidan movement. The embassy, located next to Maidan Square, was a refuge for the protesters who camped in its hall for a week. The neo-Nazi group C14 [6] took refuge there on February 18 during the massacre.<br /><br />When Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down over Ukraine on July 17, 2014, the Montreal-based International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) sent four inspectors to the crash site. Even before the investigation began, Chrystia Freeland began an international campaign to denounce Russia. She would later use her ministerial status to throw as much fuel on the fire as possible.<br /><br />After the overthrow of President Viktor Yanukovych and the rise to power of the Banderites, Canada created Operation UNIFIER (Canadian Armed Forces Joint Task Force-Ukraine). The aim was to train the Ukrainian military and develop their military police. The operation was conducted under the orders of London and Washington. It included the sending of 200 instructors and non-lethal equipment. It ended on February 13, 2022, just before the Russian operation, so as not to place Canada in a war situation.<br /><br />In 8 years, Canada has given nearly $900 million in aid to Ukraine.<br /><br />When in 2017, the site Russia Insider revealed the criminal past of her grandfather and his still close ties with the Banderites, she denied the facts and denounced Russian “propaganda”. However, on February 27, she appeared with a group of OUN(B) Banderites at a demonstration against Russian aggression. The photo, which she posted herself, was quickly removed from her Twitter account.<br /><br />Reacting with its Nato partners to the Russian military operation, Canada has modified its budget to set aside $500 million for the Ukrainian army, including the Banderites. It has already sent machine guns, pistols, rifles, 1.5 million rounds of ammunition, sniper rifles and various related equipment (February 14), night vision goggles, helmets and body armour (February 27), 100 Carl Gustav M2 recoilless rifles and 2,000 rounds of 84 mm ammunition (Feb. 28), 390,000 individual field rations and approximately 1,600 flak jackets (March 1), 4,500 M72 rocket launchers and 7,500 hand grenades, as well as a subscription to commercial satellite imagery for $1 million (March 3), cameras for surveillance drones (March 9), M777 howitzers and related ammunition, as well as additional ammunition for the Carl Gustav M2 anti-armour weapon (April 22), 8 commercial model armoured vehicles, and a service contract for the maintenance and repair of specialized drone-carried cameras (April 26), and began training Ukrainian soldiers in the handling of M777 howitzers.<br /><br />On March 2, Justin Trudeau, who believes in the United States, had some 20 countries sign a declaration denouncing Russian disinformation [8]. The aim is to prevent the dissemination of information about Ukrainian and Canadian Banderites.<br /><br />On March 10, Canada managed to get some thirty countries to sign a second, very Orwellian declaration, welcoming – in the name of press freedom – the censorship in the West of Russia Today and the Sputnik agency, two Russian public media organizations.<br /><br />Since the Banderites regime came to power in Kiev, Canada has sanctioned more than 900 Russian and Ukrainian opposition figures and companies. It has added to this list people close to the Russian president and members of their families.<br /><br />In spite of its declarations of principle in favour of the equality in right of all men, Canada supports without reserve the Banderites, heralds of the racial superiority of the Ukrainians over the Russians. <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/712/042/qrc/data"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://tinyurl.com/2p8feuwx.">TinyURL.com - shorten that long URL into a tiny URL</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">TinyURL.com is the original URL shortener that shortens your unwieldly links into more manageable and useable URLs.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Response by Capt Rich Buckley made May 11 at 2022 10:03 AM 2022-05-11T10:03:18-04:00 2022-05-11T10:03:18-04:00 2022-03-01T11:31:48-05:00