I want to reclassify. Instead of finding a different unit to send me to school, could my current unit request an additional MOS to our UMR?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 13 Feb 2018 13:18:29 -0500

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2018 1:31 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 13 Feb 2018 13:31:46 -0500

I assume this means your unit does not have the MOS in question on the UMR, they would have to justify to higher command why they need said MOS. I know I joined the Reserves as an Engineer but by the time I completed training and joined my unit they had changed the manning roster and my MOS was going away, so I had to reclass into an MOS that fit the units needs.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2018 1:33 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 13 Feb 2018 13:33:46 -0500

I've never seen it done that way before. My understanding is that changing the UMR takes some serious lip service and some red tape cutting.

Response by SGT Eric Davis made Feb 13 at 2018 2:53 PM

SGT Eric Davis — Tue, 13 Feb 2018 14:53:00 -0500

Yes your unit could get you a secondary MOS that they have in their unit but there has to be a justification for reclass!

Response by CSM Richard StCyr made Feb 13 at 2018 4:29 PM

CSM Richard StCyr — Tue, 13 Feb 2018 16:29:28 -0500

There is a very long and arduous procedure to add an MOS to the unit Manning Roster. The UMR is the least of the worries as it is generated from either the MTOE or TDA depending on the type of unit, as source documents.
When I was the CDID SGM we managed close to 300 different MTOEs and TDAs for the Engineer, MP and NBC Regiments. Things that usually lead to successful additions are new equipment fielding, major doctrinal changes to unit missions or the discovery of a capability gap in an existing unit mission that can not be resolved through training or materials.
So yes the Commander can always request an additional MOS but there is a butt load of documentation required to justify it. Contact your proponancy office at your regiment and they will be able to line you out with the POCs and procedures for your specific field.

Response by CW3 Jeff Held made Feb 13 at 2018 9:48 PM

CW3 Jeff Held — Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:48:01 -0500

Changing the personnel authorizations is not going to happen. To do so is beyond MACOM. And your new career manager would be absolutely nuts if they even tried. If, by chance, near future unit configuration calls for the new MOS I would say you have a fighting chance.

Is the new MOS billeted at your current duty station? That might be a possibility.

Response by SSG Jeff Hamel made Feb 15 at 2018 9:03 AM

SSG Jeff Hamel — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:03:57 -0500

If I remember correctly the reason that a MSU does not have a 68A is due to the fact that when you actually do deploy you will fall under the command of a CSH which do have 68A’s. However in your situation you could argue that the equipment is not being inspected properlly. Some ewuipment get inspected once a year while most others are every 6 months. Calibration verification, electrical safety inspection, operational verification and so on. Also be aware that even if you go to the school there is no guaratee that you make it. Been awhile since I did it but it had a high fail rate. Just fyi.