I will complete MI BOLC by next summer. What intelligence community jobs are out there other than FBI and CIA?

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I am going to MI BOLC FEB 2016 and will not be done until June 2016. My question is what other intelligence jobs out there will be great to land other FBI/CIA, NSA ect.

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2015 4:56 PM

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DIA, Contractor, GS, GG.... CENTCOM, SOCOM, EUCOM, PACOM, STRATCOM... The list is endless, Sir. Where do you want to work? What discipline? :)

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Aug 5 at 2015 5:07 PM

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Every "Agency" has an Intelligence Branch, just like they have an LEO branch or a IG Branch. In addition to that, there are countless Government Contractor Jobs, and "Intel Adjacent" jobs. "Intel" is a big field.

Response by SSG Ricardo Marcial made Aug 5 at 2015 5:56 PM

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CBP and Border Patrol are moving up on their Intel. They are working jointly with other agencies at the JTTF centers. good place to look at. Some of the major cities as well at working at the same centers in a LEO capacity, as well State Police. Plenty of opportunities for Intel right now.

Response by LTC John Shaw made Aug 5 at 2015 7:58 PM

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1LT Private RallyPoint Member Have you thought about National Geospacial Agency (NGA) they are big in Intel Analyst with Geographic analysis? The MI field is huge, the issue won't be is there a job, but which job, career path based on your employer.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2015 9:32 PM

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Air Reserve Technician (ART) positions ....check out USA JOBS.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Aug 5 at 2015 9:35 PM

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CW5 Private RallyPoint Member is the best person I know to ask. I think he knows who shot Kennedy and where Hoffa vacations in the summer.

Response by PO2 Brandon Boucher made Aug 9 at 2015 10:50 AM

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There are also private intelligence companies out there to look at.

Response by MAJ Hugh Blanchard made Aug 9 at 2015 10:55 PM

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There are some options, and you need to decide where you want to go from here. What do you want to do? Are you scheduled for training in an MI specialty? What kind of academic background do you have? Do you have an affinity for languages, mathematics, technology, or logic? Ask your branch manager for helpful advice. I served at NSA, and the experience was terrific.
Regards,
Hugh

Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Aug 9 at 2015 11:30 PM

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TBH, part of me wants to tell you that you should be thinking about it like this: "What MI units are out in Hawaii, and how do I get into those?" I'm just being real with you.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2015 11:46 AM

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Well, other than government jobs, you could look into contracting work for one of the agencies until you find one that's up your alley.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2015 11:56 AM

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Besides the contracting companies, DIA, NGA, NSA, DISA, Treasury, State, Homeland Security to name a few. Most major departments have intel section and especially with Cyber.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2015 12:35 PM

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You can look at DIA and other agencies but honestly as a newly ordained 2lt MI Officer not many places are really going to look at you as having Intel experience. You'll basically have the same chances as any other person with a college degree. Even your security clearance needs to be reevaluated. In other words if you have a TS in the Army it doesn't automatically transfer to the FBI. They'll need to re-investigate

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2015 12:40 PM

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2LT Griffin, I hope you will accept my comment as a point of professional development, thought it will seem critical at first. Here is what one Military Intelligence professional hears when reading your question:

1) You are ineffective as a communicator. Your question headline is redundant (you mention 'agency' and CIA), and your question itself is poorly formed (MI BOLC of FEB of 2016... will be great to land other FBI/CIA, NSA). In a community where reports, communication, and efficiency are key, you could talk yourself out of a job just based on that. I am not commenting on your intelligence or your qualifications, merely your preparation.

2) If you are about to begin MI BOLC and already looking for outside work, that is a concern to every subordinate and peer that will work with you. Instead look to career broadening assignments, how you can gain the most experience to achieve the Army mission, and how you can best take care of the Soldiers assigned to your care.

I don't know you sir, and I don't presume to speak to your character, but I hope you will take the words of an E7 and consider the points above.

Response by MAJ Michel Dinesman made Aug 11 at 2015 12:56 PM

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You are a 2LT with no experience. Perhaps going to a tactical unit so you can learn something first might be a good idea. How about becoming an Intel professional first.

Your branch manager is the best person to answer your questions about opportunities.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2015 1:16 PM

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We had at least 3 2LTs get job with the FMV program at BAE and a couple others with DCTC in Reston. Straight out of MI BOLC.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2015 3:29 PM

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There are only 17 agencies in the intelligence community. You may have better luck as a contractor depending on your experience. Search clearancejobs.org.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2015 3:48 PM

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LT, I assume that you are going to stay in the ARNG. If you were going active, this wouldn't be a valid question. Don't limit yourself to the intelligence field. There are plenty of organizations within the government and in contracting in need of good intelligence professionals. One that a lot of people don't think of is JIDO (formerly JIEDDO). I did a walk through of that facility. It was more than impressive and had capabilities I didn't know existed.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2015 4:03 PM

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As a new 2LT, you won't have access to jobs in "those" communities. You could go to INSCOM but it's encouraged to go to a BCT such as the 101st or 82nd. You won't be eligible for the "fun" stuff until you're a Captain with command.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2015 4:59 PM

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LT, I admire your ambition but you will be hard pressed to find a position right out of MI BOLC. I have to echo MAJ Mike Dinesman's comment that you don't have any experience....yet. The other LTs that commented on this thread that they were able to get hired right out of BOLC are the exception and not the rule.

I just left government service for the private sector a few months ago. I was a Agent with the Secret Service and even with my training and experience it was damn near impossible for me to find another position. Granted, an Agent is not necessarily the position you are looking for, but the trend is the same. You are competing with guys with years of experience for these positions.

Your search should start on USAjobs and clearedjobs. I'd also take a look at the contracting organizations as previously mentioned and work your way up from there. You could also consider mobilizing with a unit to get some real world experience.

I wish you the best of luck.

Response by CPT Christopher F. made Aug 12 at 2015 10:19 AM

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I understand where you are coming from. I see from your profile that you are in the National Guard, so waiting to get more on-the-job experience isn't really practical advice for you, especially if you are looking for a new day job. But what everyone else is saying is true. Most agencies and contracting firms are looking for someone who has around three or more years of experience, with at least one deployment. So realistically your cohort are people who are applying for entry level positions that require very little training or experience. I'm not trying to dash your hopes, I just want to make sure you have a realistic expectation of the jobs that are a match for you.

With that said, one way that you may be able to make up for your lack of practical experience could be pursuing a degree in intelligence studies. This would make you stand out a little bit more than someone who has a clearance but no real world experience.

If you want to get an overview of the different Agencies that are a part of the National Intelligence Community you should take a look at the National Intelligence Familiarization Course. It's in the Foundry Catalog and you can find it on ATRRS under school code 144. Most units have Foundry Funding that goes unused every year and the travel and per diem wouldn't come out of your state's budget.

Also check out some of the job websites that cater to professionals with security clearances. Sometime they post jobs that require a clearance, but no other formalized training.

I hope that helps, reach out if you have any other questions.

Response by SGT Rick Ash made Aug 13 at 2015 6:48 AM

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So many options. Don't forget about other countries either. The Mossad is always looking, especially if you are multi-lingual. MI 6 in the UK is an option too.
Here at home there is a need for Intelligence officers in the DOD, DOJ and ONI.
Best of Luck!
Rick

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Aug 13 at 2015 2:34 PM

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Sorry, I am not much help here.

Response by 1SG Christine Tron made Aug 22 at 2015 5:46 PM

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I have found in the past that the following two websites were useful in finding a wide variety of jobs requiring security clearances: http://www.ClearanceJobs.com and also http://www.usajobs.gov.
What I especially like about the USA Jobs site was that there were jobs I wouldn't have even thought existed that I would be interested in but came up because I entered as one of the criteria that of security clearance. Lots of luck to you, young lieutenant.

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