If a Soldier is up for a Qualitative Management Program (QMP) board for elimination from the Army, should they lose NCOES reservation?

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 12:51:26 -0400

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Sep 5 at 2015 12:54 PM

SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 12:54:02 -0400

MSG Private RallyPoint Member I think they should be left alone, they are not promotion eligible anymore. In another situation, when I retired, I didn't even have to have an NCOER to clear.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2015 1:10 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 13:10:43 -0400

If you look at the stats, 3 out of 4 who are uo for QMP are selected. That's not counting the large percentage who choose to retire in lieu of QMP. If you're up for it, you're more than 80% likely done. If you're selected, there's no reason for the Army to waste the money. Focus on separation plans.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2015 1:12 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 13:12:34 -0400

Have you tried the Ranger Association? If not, PM me and I can probably help you find the right direction.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2015 1:17 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 13:17:08 -0400

I actually thought there was only one and the chowhall at the 68W training was named after him. But yeah. More rare than a triple CIB, the Tomb Guards, a double Mustard Stain, or even the Astronaut Badge.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2015 1:32 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 13:32:24 -0400

Unfortunately I believe they should lose it. The NCO selected for QMP should focus on thransitioning rather than wasting a slot for someone else.

Response by CSM Michael J. Uhlig made Sep 5 at 2015 1:53 PM

CSM Michael J. Uhlig — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 13:53:55 -0400

While most will be separated, you ought not take something away this opportunity to professionally develop them unless the board made the decision for removal and the results are released.

Response by SGT Michael Glenn made Sep 5 at 2015 2:17 PM

SGT Michael Glenn — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 14:17:27 -0400

With out knowing all the details I am reluctant to sway one way or the other. I do know that There used to be a thing called CCF ( Corrective Custody Facility) that dealt with sm's where the COC felt the Sm could turn around and retain them in the military.I have been told this is a thing of the past and its a shame as everyone slips up and deserves a 2nd chance if they want one in the military ( depending on the infraction of course).

Response by SGT(P) Crystal Marie France made Sep 5 at 2015 3:34 PM

SGT(P) Crystal Marie France — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 15:34:05 -0400

I believe they should only be removed if they have no chance or not enough time to make the next rank. If they have no chance to do so then yes they should be removed to give others (Like me :) ) the opportunity to get in to these NCOES schools.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2015 8:25 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Sep 2015 20:25:53 -0400

My ALC date got cancled a month back due to pending QMP results. Is that a sign of things to come maybe?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2015 3:03 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 15:03:46 -0400

If they are on the QMP list then the spot should go to a soldier that is staying in and making the military a career. Since deciding to get out next year I have come to the conclusion that I am not going to be able to do anything further with my career, and I am good with that because there are other soldiers who are staying in that need and want those schools.