If America needs you again, would you be willing to return to active duty one grade lower?

2014-12-01T20:22:33-05:00

If you read Once an Eagle, you know the hero was up and down in permanent and temporary ranks based on the needs of the military...but you might not know that one of my personal heroes, Gen. Andrew Goodpaster (SACEUR) took a downgrade to 3- star rank to command his beloved West Point. If we had full mobilization or even partial mobilization, what about you?

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 1 at 2014 8:41 PM

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Absolutely, SGM Private RallyPoint Member. No doubts and no hesitations. I was once CW4 Montgomery, I'd gladly serve in that grade again.

Response by SFC Boots Attaway made Dec 1 at 2014 8:45 PM

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In a heartbeat but they will not take this broken old soldier any more.

Response by SSG Tim Everett made Dec 1 at 2014 8:48 PM

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I'd answer the call. I wouldn't be particularly happy about it, but I'd answer the call.

Response by CMSgt James Nolan made Dec 1 at 2014 9:18 PM

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I will always be willing to serve my Country. The rest is intended as humor

The interesting thing would be just how low the threshold for BS might go if a bunch of cranky already retired guys came back in? Common phrases might include: Let me tell you another thing...WTH were you thinking when you....Whose brilliant idea was this.....Say (blank) one more time....

The good news is that when the fights broke out in the bars, the MPs/SFS/MAs could very like catch everybody.

And I am not even retired yet......bwahahaha

Response by MAJ Jim Woods made Dec 1 at 2014 9:44 PM

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Not even close....... of course I would!

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Dec 2 at 2014 5:50 AM

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SGM Coberly....Yes, I would take a reduction in rank to serve, after serving I know my retirement pay will be at the highest rank last held so that wouldn't be a issue for me. Being active in the military community is good for my mind and body, it would be another opportunity for me to mentor young Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Dec 2 at 2014 5:58 AM

2014-12-02T05:58:37-05:00

No problemo. If they want this lard-ass it would be an even trade off. Besides, I loved being a CPT!

Response by CPL Corey Aldridge made Dec 2 at 2014 7:26 AM

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Absolutely, if my country needed me I would be there regardless of grade. My love of this Country is not determined by pay grade. I would go back in as a pvt E-1 if need be. With my knowledge, skill and leadership abilities I would soon advance anyway.

Response by SGT James Hastings made Dec 2 at 2014 10:16 AM

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Well, the spirit is willing but the body might not stand up to it at 82! I thought long and hard before discharge.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 2 at 2014 12:14 PM

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I'd go if they asked me to...or ordered me to I suppose. But I'd be in for hell on the home front. Probably a divorce would be in the makings.

Response by Cpl Dennis F. made Dec 2 at 2014 12:48 PM

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Yeah that could happen, but I believe there would be a lot of fireworks to overcome due to the clash of military era cultures. Not too sure that old Viet vets would integrate real well with the new kinder, gentler, PC military. Might have to build a few more brigs ....or grow some old corps balls.

Response by CPL Rick Stasny made Dec 2 at 2014 12:57 PM

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Absolutely, I can just imagine morning PT formation. Us old guys, no coffee yet, and the overwhelming smell of Ben Gay in the air.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Dec 2 at 2014 1:34 PM

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Absolutely... And, to be honest, I had a better time as a LTC than I did as a COL. Don't get me wrong, being a brigade commander and MACOM provost marshal were great, but being a battalion commander was better (from a being closer to the troops perspective). Hey, I'd rather go back in as a 2LT/1LT and be a platoon leader all over again (as long as I got the age reduction along with the rank reduction)... :-) :-)

I have a uniform set up and ready in my closet, just in case they call (although I'd probably have to have it let out a little). My dad kept a uniform hanging in his closet until the day he died at 88 years old. We both knew we would never again wear the uniform (at least, not on active duty), but it gave us pride to know it was there, as we were, just in case.

Response by SPC David Hannaman made Dec 2 at 2014 1:42 PM

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If America needed me again it would be a sorry state of affairs! To quote a song:

"I'm not as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was."

That said, sure. On 9/11 all I could think of is "I wonder if I could be a reservist and fly in flight refueling missions for the Air Force" (I don't think my back would take sleeping on a cot in a GP Medium anymore).

Response by SSG John Erny made Dec 2 at 2014 1:56 PM

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My Oath does not expire until I do.

Response by SPC David S. made Dec 2 at 2014 2:53 PM

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Sure but it would be interesting to see old school integrate with new school. If it comes to needing me getting in the fight we're in big trouble. Hopefully they would make me an 90 day wonder butter bar and give me a platoon of scouts.

Response by PO2 Corey Ferretti made Dec 2 at 2014 3:13 PM

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I would like to say yes if it meant i got to serve in a place i thougth i could do good in. So did Gen. Andrew Goodpaster stay a 3 star till retirement? and did he retire as a 3 star or at a 4 star?

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Dec 2 at 2014 3:18 PM

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I spent so much time as a SFC maybe I should have gone back down to SSG and tried to flank DA from another direction. I would go back in tomorrow as a no TIS/TIG SGT if they would let me! In no time I would be stuck right back at the SFC level.

Response by SSG William Patton made Dec 2 at 2014 3:27 PM

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I would return to service today if they would take me, disabiliity and all. I even tried to reenlist during Desert Storm in hopes of keeping my oldest son from having to go. I was however, too old at the time. When his mother told him what I was trying to do, he was furious with me. He wanted to go. In retrospect, I saw I was wrong for trying to protect him and not allowing him to be his own man and serve as I had. Still, I would go back in a minute. Even at my age, I feel I could be of use in some capactity.

Response by PFC Aaron Knapp made Dec 2 at 2014 8:01 PM

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Absolutely I'm still same weight, I can wear my original BDUs still but unfortunately life has take its toll on my body and I'm unsure I would pass APFT but put me in an Abrams Tank and I'm ready to go lol

Response by SFC Cindy Paris made Dec 2 at 2014 8:37 PM

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I think that any of us that were serious about our service would gladly and with no doubts or regrets return to active duty if our country needed us. When I raised my hand and pledged my service and dedication to our country my oath did not have an expiration date. As long as I breath and can move about I am willing to support and defend in whatever capacity I am needed.

Response by SFC A.M. Drake made Dec 2 at 2014 10:21 PM

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The answer is no, I would not come in as a lower rank...sorry I earned all of this.

Response by PO1 Scott VanBoskirk made Dec 3 at 2014 12:22 PM

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As all orders from this administation are illegal, NO WAY!

Response by SSG Jason Cherry made Dec 3 at 2014 2:04 PM

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I would, and I would be VERY interested to see what the older folks returning would say about the young kids just joining! Perhaps we can use that to help restructure the Army now anyways, it is sorely needed.

Response by PFC Stephen Eric Serati made Dec 3 at 2014 2:13 PM

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Yep.If I was called on.

Response by SGT Jason Metoyer made Dec 4 at 2014 4:51 AM

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As a veteran of this country, I firmly belive that a call to duty is as long as I have breath. I swore to defend against foreign and domestic, whether bonded or released. An oath is an oath to the death. Death before dishonor. To sacrifice for those I love dearly and my fellow citizens would never be a hesitation because I've done it before and I know I could do it again.....IJS

Response by Col Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2014 9:18 AM

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Absolutely not. The Air Force throws out a lot of great people with sharp skills and nothing but dedication, destroying their careers and livelihood (and turning the service into crap as well). For me this came at 15 years of service. After spending years to try and rebuild our lives along a different path if the Air Force offered a "chance" to serve again at a lower grade I'd just shake my head and tell them where to go. People need more consistently and to be able to plan their future out because we all get old at some point and can't start over all the time. My branch of service has proven it doesn't care about human capital and is not willing to fight for what is right. At times it seems as if it is a political organization rather than a branch of the military. I cannot recommend any your person serve in today's Air Force. It's just a waste of thier formative and productive earning years.

Response by PO1 Scott VanBoskirk made Dec 4 at 2014 12:12 PM

2014-12-04T12:12:13-05:00

The only way I would return is if we first remove every single domestic enemy from the US government as they are the ones giving the orders to the troops we currently have. Right now, the country is in dire need of protection from those in charge, but until those in charge are removed, then the entire military service is likewise operating apart from the law of the land. So if they call on me, hell no, but if I am called to remove those who are destroying this nation from within, I'd do it in a heartbeat even if it means going in at E-1!!!

Response by SCPO Mike Riddell made Dec 4 at 2014 1:03 PM

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Open the mail and execute the orders!!

Response by PO3 Driver Josh made Dec 4 at 2014 5:59 PM

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I would serve anytime my country needs me

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Dec 4 at 2014 8:29 PM

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Sure, I'd be willing to accept a demotion to 3 star General =o)

Response by SGT Richard H. made Dec 4 at 2014 11:23 PM

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I would always be willing to serve...but I would think the Army would want me at 3-4 grades higher, rather than lower.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 5 at 2014 1:14 AM

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Define "needs."

If we're talking about another war of aggression like we spent over the past decade waging on two fronts, then no I wouldn't rejoin. I take great pride in my service and my two combat deployments, but I have no illusions of "defending freedom."

That said, should a real threat arise (read: not an abstract noun) that impacts American citizens then I will gladly and willingly rejoin at any rank and in any capacity the military sees fit. If for any reason the military wont take me back, perhaps due to medical reasons, and there's domestic fighting then I would grab a weapon out of my safe and find some other constructive way to put bullets down range. If there's one lesson that Iraq and Afghanistan should have taught us is that a very small, but highly motivated force can wreak havoc on a significantly superior enemy.

Response by MSG Tim Donahue, M.Ed. made Dec 5 at 2014 11:48 AM

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I earned my rank and spent 23 years on active duty. If the military needs me...I would return...but I would expect full rank and even consideration for the next one. Having a few years of civilian (government service) under my belt should also be considered.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Dec 5 at 2014 12:41 PM

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America does need us again. We should all be serving right now, without rank or pay. Sadly, most aren't.

We should be voting. At the heart of most of the growing political rancor lies the fact that politicians are flying blind. They don't really know what We the People want. We don't bother to tell them. They only know what They Who Contribute The Most want.

We should be forming ourselves into community-based emergency response teams. If the government doesn't have the good sense to reestablish Civil Defense as a viable agency, we should take it upon ourselves. Why should people sit helplessly on their roofs waiting for rescue or be herded into a stadium or FEMA camps while the military goes door-to-door illegally confiscating guns as they did following a natural disaster like Hurricane Katrina. In addition to natural disasters, we now have the threat of terrorism to contend with. We need Civil Defense, not more expensive, ineffective government agencies like Homeland Defense which is doing little good and leaching away our rights.

We, especially we veterans, should be helping our communities organize and train militias to combat terrorism. Our military is very effective fighting terrorists at a distance, but how effective will they be if terrorism seeps into our communities?

We veterans should be helping veterans just as we helped one another on the battlefield. The Veterans Administration is broken and, just like all government agencies, it is politically resistant to repair. It may never be truly effective, efficient, or economical. Join the American Legion or the VFW or both and help.

Response by MSG Mitch Dowler made Dec 5 at 2014 12:46 PM

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If America needs me again the president will have orders cut orders transferring me from the Retired Reserve to Active Duty. I would maintain the same rank and have opportunity for promotion again while on Active Duty. Gen. Andrew evidently wasn't "needed", he wanted to satisfy and ambition.

Response by SGT Orazio Castellana made Dec 5 at 2014 12:51 PM

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I would in a heartbeat.

Response by SPC Troy Garcia made Dec 5 at 2014 12:56 PM

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Yes, absolutely. Rank is gay anyways, I'm all about living with no regrets and looking out for my bros!

Response by SGT Brandan Pennington made Dec 5 at 2014 1:04 PM

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I would return to the 101st airborne division in a heartbeat!

Response by PFC George Rotondo made Dec 5 at 2014 1:17 PM

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Until my last breath. I will serve and protect our country from enemies external and internal alike!!!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 5 at 2014 3:00 PM

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I would in a heart beat. I would be a 2LT all over again. I don't think it would be really difficult. They really don't have many expectations. But then I would have to salute all those 1LTs. On second thoughts I would have to pass.

Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Dec 5 at 2014 3:39 PM

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Too easy -- I would do it in a heartbeat. Can't think of anything more important than fighting to protect our country and my loved ones.

Response by CPO Greg Frazho made Dec 5 at 2014 4:03 PM

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No. I'm an initiated chief petty officer with 20 years time in service. Literally half of it was as a member of the CPO Mess. No way would I return to active duty as a first class petty officer again. If anything, I'd want one pay grade higher.

Response by SGT William Howell made Dec 5 at 2014 5:02 PM

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I actually did just that. I left the Navy after the Gulf War. I was out of 11 years and after Sept 11 I could not stand by any more. The call was too great.

I reenlisted and served another 8 years in the army. Heck, I was so important to the army they stop lossed me for almost 2 years. Luckily, I stayed or the war would have came to a screeching halt without my expert options about how screwed up Afghanistan and Iraq was.

Now for dropping a rank. Heck no! Do you know how hard it was for me not to get in trouble and earn those stripes? Nobody was more surprised than me when they gave me my Good Conduct Medal. Well, my 1SG was probably a close second. We both thought I would get the MOH before I would ever get a good cookie.

Response by PO1 Jonathan Diloy made Dec 6 at 2014 11:09 AM

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Yes. But the new kids might not like it...

Response by SFC David Pope, MBA made Dec 6 at 2014 12:26 PM

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Yes. That being said I had orders to be promoted to 1st Sgt. when I retired, so would that make me an SFC? Lol I would even take SSG to come back. In three years I will have my doctorate in Organizational Leadership, so I don't think they will go with rank reduction in my case, besides us forward observers are a dime a dozen.

Response by SPC Christopher Smith made Dec 6 at 2014 2:18 PM

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If they ask me to come back, I better come in a pay grade or two higher. If I somehow roll out of bed to come crawling back, I'd take a pay reduction.

Response by Sgt Michael Furphy made Dec 6 at 2014 2:21 PM

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Depends on the situation. This administration has gotten rid of how many Generals and other top ranking officials? I don't know why. If someone has a clue why, please inform me. I'm sorry but I just do not trust this current organization. If it was to go to Africa to help with Ebola, which I think is ludicrous and only puts these men in danger, my answer would be no! But if I could clearly see what the threat to our great country was, they would only have to pay me to cover my monthly bills so my wife would be taken care of. They would also have to pay for my much larger size of cammies that I would be wearing. Another problem if I was to re-enlist is that I've gotten so fat I might show up on radar. Shuhh. Just last week my doctor told me I have flesh eating disease and gave me 87 years to live. But yeah, my country can count on me!

Response by SSG Francisco Jimenez made Dec 6 at 2014 9:38 PM

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I really don't have any problem to go back, and show this young soldiers how we are made off

Response by SGT Edward Thomas made Dec 7 at 2014 11:55 AM

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SGM I would have no issue returning to service up to two grades lower. I loved my time in service and would do it all again.

Response by 1SG Cameron M. Wesson made Dec 7 at 2014 11:55 AM

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This one is easy! Yes I would... And really still do as a DA Civilian. Not sure if I would be of use still as a SNCO... as I have evolved since retiring... But Yes I would! Funny as it sounds, I ran PT with my ORG at Fort Leavenworth this fall... And the SGM called me out for cadence calling... I still had it after 9 years later... And called it for about 1.5. It was fun and surprised the crap out of about 100 folks. Good times good times!

Response by 1stSgt Daryl Allen made Dec 7 at 2014 3:35 PM

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I would be more than willing to do what is necessary to serve and protect my Country. My oath of enlistment never ended.

Response by MSG John Melville made Dec 7 at 2014 4:53 PM

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I was mobilized as a retiree recall from 2003-2005 and served under my last retired rank. The amazing thing was once on the retired list, my pay entry basic date (PEBD) is remainsed unchanged. I retired with 24 years AFS in in January 2001 to find that I maxed the E-8 pay schale when I came back on.

Response by SrA Andrea West made Dec 7 at 2014 7:24 PM

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I would go. Don't know how useful I'd be in my old AFSC after so long, but I'd go.

Response by SPC David Willett made Dec 7 at 2014 9:13 PM

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Yes in a heartbeat!

Response by SPC Phillip Ludlow made Dec 7 at 2014 9:21 PM

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Umm.... i plead the 5th

Response by SPC Vince Padilla made Dec 7 at 2014 9:48 PM

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didn't want to get out and I fight for whats right till the day I die!

Response by SFC Frederick Williams made Dec 7 at 2014 10:44 PM

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If I had to yes, but have concerns about "old school" meeting "new school"!!!!!!!!!!!

Response by SSG Roy Neve made Dec 8 at 2014 3:36 AM

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SGM, if I was needed again I would return but not with any rank loss since I have been down that road once before. My father who was a CSM retired in '87 informed me that in the 60s many were called back to duty with one additional stripe added to their rank. If my services were really needed once again, the Army would need to either promote me to the next grade or higher. In nearly the 30 years that I have served in the Army and many of my friends who have served in the various branches of the Armed Forces have informed me practically the same story. The services are not the same as they were while they were growing up in the armed forces and while they were serving as a soldier, marine, sailor or an airman. The discipline was not there not only for the enlisted corps but also for the officers which was a mess. The soldiers that I trained while I was an instructor at the Military Intelligence School and Center and later I was assigned to be a Platoon Sergeant at an Advance Individual Training company. A few of my students and trainees corresponded with me once they were graduated and assigned at their current units would describe that the Army has changed in the short time that they were in and they looked forward to their completion of their obligation out of the Army. As many of our fellow veterans and retirees have stated that the military would get a rude awakening if we return to duty once again because many of us will not bend like a palm tree due to the countless of changes that happened while we were out of uniform or even some of us those changes happened while we were still serving.

Response by SGM Ed Mounts made Dec 8 at 2014 11:03 AM

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If I were called back I would serve proudly even as a lower rank, with one detail, they would have to ensure that this would not affect my retirement grade once I served the term I was called back for.
If the Army needed me I would come back and serve not just for the Army but for my fellow Soldiers.
After all I will always be a Soldier and Proud of it.

Response by SFC John Kohlhepp made Dec 8 at 2014 11:55 AM

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Yes, I would...because I miss it, and I'm healthy..22yrs service retired SFC..Loved being a squad leader.

Response by SFC John Kohlhepp made Dec 8 at 2014 12:00 PM

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Can I request to go back in, is there something new available to return to service. 55yrs old, and in decent shape..

Response by MAJ William Guglielmi made Dec 8 at 2014 12:24 PM

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Yes, I would but I don't know if they would want me at my age.

Response by Sgt Arlene McQuality made Dec 8 at 2014 12:29 PM

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I wouldn't do it under the current administration. We took an oath to protect against ALL enemies foreign and domestic and it is the domestic ones in office right now that concern me the most. Our forefathers were afraid this would happen and warned us about it. The Constitution needs to stand and anyone who tries to it take away wants enslave us. Our country is being ran by a tyrant king who isn't even an American along with the Elitist who are trying to destroy truth and put their plans in place.

Response by SSG Don Waggoner made Dec 8 at 2014 1:11 PM

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Goodpaster was a general and the reduction in active duty rank did not affect his retired status. And no, I would not return under any circumstances, despite the fact that I enjoyed my service and miss many things about it.

Response by SPC Michael Christian made Dec 8 at 2014 2:34 PM

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Yes

Response by SPC Ruben Barrios made Dec 8 at 2014 4:17 PM

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Always ready!!! physically and mentally too!! it would suck for the higher ranks to lose them but I think that in the end it wouldn't matter because in an emergency everybody should be ready and able to fight for this country.. a serious problem would be that if in the close future the weapons systems change, the older soldiers would have little time to get proficient at them.

Response by LCpl Adam Williams made Dec 8 at 2014 6:33 PM

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In a heartbeat

Response by SSG Christopher Perkins made Dec 8 at 2014 7:43 PM

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If needed I am always here and available unless I am deceased.

Response by SPC Jonnie Waniak made Dec 9 at 2014 9:55 AM

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In a heartbeat I would come back

Response by PFC Zanie Young made Dec 9 at 2014 5:51 PM

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If I could come back, they would have to promote me! I couldn't go any lower!

Response by Sgt Stephen Lazar made Dec 11 at 2014 6:50 AM

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Of course

Response by SrA William Giraldi made Dec 11 at 2014 9:17 AM

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I think I'd rather work in a state militia capacity. They may not be federally funded, but I don't have to worry about the PC, gender bullshit. Had enough of that crap through the Air Force. That's not to say that I don't love the military, I certainly do. But enough is enough.

Response by SPC Eric Palmer made Dec 11 at 2014 11:47 PM

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yes

Response by SGT Morris Swearingane made Dec 12 at 2014 4:01 PM

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Forever a soldier, would always go!

Response by SGT Estill Hall made Dec 12 at 2014 4:54 PM

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Absolutely without question I would buy I would fight to stay at least an e-5

Response by SPC Eric Brannstrom made Dec 12 at 2014 5:36 PM

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Absolutely

Response by PO2 Christopher Asis made Dec 12 at 2014 6:28 PM

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I will always serve my country.. I'm would go back...Hoorah!

Response by SSgt Joshua Cochran made Dec 12 at 2014 11:55 PM

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I'd go back in, in a heart beat

Response by SSG Joseph Jarman made Dec 13 at 2014 4:45 AM

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Wouldn't think twice about it

Sign me up

Response by Cpl Carl H made Dec 13 at 2014 9:24 AM

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No, I wouldn't be an e4 with a graduate degree and have 25 year olds giving me orders. Further, I would be of little benefit to my prior mos at this age.

Response by SGT Derek Whitaker made Dec 13 at 2014 11:41 AM

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I would go back in a heartbeat. Not to sure about dropping a rank though. I was SGT/E-5 when i was wounded in Iraq and was ultimately medically retired after a fight to stay in. I was able to take better care of my troops as an NCO and did just that. I was threatened with loss of rank more than once due to having a soldiers back when I knew they were being ran through the ringer. With that said, I was also there to hammer their asses if they indeed were in the wrong. I would need to come in as NCO again to make sure I could have a voice in how my troops didnt get unfairly treated just to satisfy someone elses political agenda to benifit themselves.

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 13 at 2014 2:07 PM

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At any time the call goes out

Response by PO2 Ronald Cruz made Dec 13 at 2014 6:06 PM

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I took an oath that ends when i do. Unconditional loyalty.

Response by SSG Daryle Borland made Dec 14 at 2014 5:15 AM

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Yes I would. He'll I would go back now I believe that we retirees have quite a bit left in us and for those that have faced the fire we are not likely to fold.

Response by CWO3 Keith Sampson made Dec 14 at 2014 11:36 AM

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Hell yes. I'm in until I'm in the ground.

Response by SPC Seth Dietrich made Dec 14 at 2014 12:45 PM

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I would answer the call.

Response by PO2 Joseph Thompson made Dec 14 at 2014 1:04 PM

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Yes

Response by PFC Cahlan Bowman made Dec 14 at 2014 1:22 PM

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Yes

Response by LCpl Juan Flores made Dec 14 at 2014 1:38 PM

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I would accept the call...in a heart beat!!

Response by A1C Van Harton made Dec 14 at 2014 3:03 PM

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I took my oath seriously and I feel like I serve today just in a different way!

Response by LCpl John Harcrow Jr. made Dec 14 at 2014 5:03 PM

2014-12-14T17:03:05-05:00

In a heartbeat! Worst thing about it, I'd probably be the oldest, out of shape PFC in the Corps.

Response by SSG Francell Reed made Dec 14 at 2014 5:53 PM

2014-12-14T17:53:14-05:00

I don't know if I'd have the patience to serve in an Active Duty capacity anymore but if the need were great enough...maybe. I'd want to keep my rank though.

Response by SGT Danny Warren made Dec 14 at 2014 5:55 PM

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Once a Soldier always a Soldier

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 14 at 2014 7:39 PM

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Yes. Definitely.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 14 at 2014 9:16 PM

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Yes. I would be more than happy to serve in any capacity required. It's about the mission.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 14 at 2014 11:34 PM

2014-12-14T23:34:07-05:00

I've served most of my career feeling like I was one or two grades lower than I could have been (turned my commission down at 22 and waited another six years) so sure lol. To know what I know now would have made me a better (insert rank here)

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 16 at 2014 10:52 AM

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Absofrigginlutely!

Response by PO1 Scott VanBoskirk made Dec 16 at 2014 11:47 AM

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The responses here are prety much in two camps, and those responding will either say they "want to die for their country" (Camp #1) and those who say they "are willing to die for their country" (Camp #2).

Those in Camp #1 follow orders blindly and follow their leaders blindly. They charge in not thinking about the consequences other than their leaders told them their country needed them.

Those in Camp #2 realize that their leaders are not worthy of blind followers and look to the Country before the leaders. They will be able to quickly discern those orders which are patently illegal and will question those that seem a bit off before they follow. They will also inspect their leaders to determine to the best of their ability whether those leaders are are in camp #1 or #2 and when questionable orders are received, will push back if they are not time-sensitive, or will follow those orders notifying their objections.

So the question is whether you will follow the leaders or follow the Constitution. One is a path to possible treason, the other is a path to patriotism.

Response by PO1 Joe VanHouten made Dec 16 at 2014 7:50 PM

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You bet. Be proud to.

Response by PO2 Charles Brey made Dec 17 at 2014 12:07 PM

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Yes, I already have done that.
I left the Army as E4, then later reenlisted into the Coast Guard as E3.

Response by SFC Robert Schatteles made Dec 17 at 2014 12:14 PM

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Couldn't think of a better way to serve my country again!!
It would be interesting to see how us retired folks hold up against the current soldiers.
Don't think we could handle to much BS though.

Response by MSgt Rand Lorenz made Dec 17 at 2014 2:06 PM

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Where do I report!

Response by PFC Earl Herman made Dec 17 at 2014 2:50 PM

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I most certainly would. No question.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 17 at 2014 4:28 PM

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To quote Spock, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." If the Army needs me, I'll be there, ready to do what needs to be done to the utmost of my ability.

Response by SSgt Jon Simmons made Dec 17 at 2014 9:10 PM

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If I was physically able I would still be in. Separated because of my injuries.

Response by SSgt Jon Simmons made Dec 17 at 2014 9:07 PM

2014-12-17T21:07:38-05:00

If I was physically able I would still be in. Separated because of my injuries.

Response by Cpl George Goodwin made Dec 17 at 2014 9:15 PM

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If it hadn't been for a new family when Iraq/Afganistan kicked of I would have gone back. If America needs me, I will go. As far as going in a rank lower voluntarily, no. Rank was hard enough to get when I was in if you didn't sign for six years. I earned what few stripes I had.

Response by CSM Tony Bowen made Dec 18 at 2014 4:46 PM

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Where do I sign up. I had a better time as a 1SG anyhow.
One question.
Can I go back in as the same pay I left as? LOL

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2014 5:29 AM

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Very interesting fact. These are the things that make me proud of the men and women dedicated to this country and what being an American means.

Response by CMSgt Ray Theriault made Dec 19 at 2014 11:36 AM

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I would gladly return any grade lower, even the lowest. But....that said: if I'm needed, the country's gotta be REEEEAAALLLLLYYYY desperate --- and I know there are great folks out there waiting for their talents and leadership to be given a shot.

Response by PO1 Ron Clark made Dec 19 at 2014 11:44 AM

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I would be willing to return but at present pay grade or one higher! To return to duty in a lower pay grade would not only be unfair to the member, but unfair to the country. As most veterans do upon retirement/discharge, I have been developing myself as an individual since retirement. I entered an all-volunteer military. I performed my fair share of arduous duty and did my time and more to the best of my ability, I did what I was asked to do with no questions. To ask me to take a dive in rank/rate is truly unfair. I would return one pay grade lower, but under duress! I would still do my duty, but I don't think I could be as effective or as good a leader, as I could at my present pay grade or advanced pay grade because I would always feel cheated. Sounds cheesy but it's the truth!

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2014 12:03 PM

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If I had to. It wouldn't take long for me to make rate again, but I've got quite a bit done since I left and I think I would be more valuable a few pay grades up.

Response by Sgt Peter Stone made Dec 19 at 2014 3:17 PM

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In a heartbeat.

Response by PV2 Abbott Shaull made Dec 19 at 2014 6:29 PM

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LOL... Yeah right SGM Dan Coberly, No I will not become a E-1 again...I refuse to do it...

Response by SPC Donald Moore made Dec 19 at 2014 9:45 PM

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I would, if called, but I am old enough now that even though I can still fit my uniform and I can still pass a PT test, I don't think they would call me.
The government is just lousy about age discrimination.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2014 9:58 PM

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I traded a stripe to change branches after I got out of the Navy. I could have kept it to stay in the US Naval Reserve. I changed to FL Air Guard. It was something I was willing to do to continue to serve my country.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Dec 20 at 2014 1:42 AM

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I'd go and by the time the Army calls me back it might be for somethign major, and I am not sure what that might be, but I would gladly go.

Response by SSG Timothy McCoy made Dec 20 at 2014 12:42 PM

2014-12-20T12:42:05-05:00

Sure. It is all about service and making the load lighter.
I would if the slot I would be going into be a fit for my old broke body. I assume that my total YIS would build and wind up with a larger retirement in the end.
Tally Hoo Lets Go

Response by Cpl Michael Mosley made Dec 21 at 2014 2:03 PM

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America will need us again to fight domestically for the American People against a growing communistic Government.

Response by SPC David Wyckoff made Dec 21 at 2014 2:47 PM

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I would be willing to come back as whatever rank they would give me. As long as I could put on a uniform again I wouldn't care what job or what rank.

Response by LTC Albert Shrecengost made Dec 21 at 2014 6:51 PM

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Absolutely.

Response by PV2 Craig Miles made Dec 21 at 2014 7:40 PM

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Absolutely

Response by Sgt S.P. Woodke made Dec 22 at 2014 11:22 AM

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it all depends on WHO is leading the charge - to go BLINDLY into battle with no clear cut objectives (real and stated strategy) is ill-advised.(current day reality- case in point)

Response by Maj Kim Patterson made Dec 22 at 2014 1:04 PM

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Absolutely. We are family, we are stronger together and as a side note, I miss the creativity, dedication and jokes because sometimes, civilians just don't get it. I'd need the lower rank, I don't know what I'm doing anymore. And I need a chair..... Apparently.

Response by SGT Quinn Reels made Dec 22 at 2014 1:44 PM

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Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 23 at 2014 11:41 AM

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SGM Coberly,

They could drop me two ranks now and send me I was a BAD @$$ Sapper Squad Leader!

V/r

1SG Haro

Response by Cpl Brett Wagner made Dec 23 at 2014 12:34 PM

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If I was not so fat & old I'd go back as an E-1.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 23 at 2014 3:33 PM

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I would (and could) go back in Active, downgrading to PFC (which I was at one time, lol), but I probably wouldn't have a home to come back to. I'll shoot for the Reserves or Guard to try to do my part.

Response by 1SG Richard Valdez made Dec 24 at 2014 10:34 AM

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What is the saying? "I was a Soldier, I am a Soldier, I will always be a Soldier." In a New York minute, in a heart beat! I will gladly dawn the uniform at any rank they would allow me to serve under.......civilian life has gotten me some what domesticated! But, "Always ready, Anytime, Anyplace!"

Response by COL John Smith made Dec 24 at 2014 1:08 PM

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Of course, without hesitation! Service to country is not based on papers or arbitrary time limits.

Response by SFC David Brunk made Dec 24 at 2014 3:21 PM

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Yes ... no discussion necessary!

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 24 at 2014 4:29 PM

2014-12-24T16:29:54-05:00

If i can't stay in the army and get out then the army needs soldiers back in, I would do it.

Response by 1LT Nick Kidwell made Dec 25 at 2014 10:19 AM

2014-12-25T10:19:38-05:00

Should our nation ever need to officially call on me to defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic, then I'm thinking the fecal matter has already hit the rotating air dispersion unit.

Response by TSgt Kevin Buccola made Dec 29 at 2014 2:50 PM

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Just like SSG Erny stated - My Oath does not expire until I do! Retirement to me is a "break in service" I am ready, willing and able

Response by 1LT Kimberley Gorum made Dec 30 at 2014 11:45 AM

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If needed, I would be therem, irregardless of rank

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 22 at 2015 1:16 AM

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Hell yea! You don't need to twist my arm to go back on a team.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 27 at 2015 9:20 AM

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until I am returned to the dust from which I was created. In fact, I'm fighting to get back in as we speak (its been a loooooong nearly 15 year fight)!!!

Response by LCpl Bradley Otto made Feb 3 at 2017 1:50 AM

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I only left the Corps for my young family. I WOULD GLADLY redone my uniforms and serve. Though I would have to work back up to the three mile runs again.

Response by LCpl James Robertson made Feb 9 at 2017 4:19 PM

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No if you are over 50 years old, you would just be in the way, let the young bloods fight this one especially infantry.

Response by SGT Steven Ransbottom made Feb 16 at 2017 11:47 AM

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@53 yrs young, not sure how effective I would be, However, if the Call to Arms needed my presence, I would serve again, even if it was to help in training others. Whatever it would take.

Response by 1LT Kimberley Gorum made Feb 16 at 2017 12:21 PM

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Absolutely,, even at 57, I am quite sure that there would be something that I could do.

Response by SPC David Wyckoff made Feb 23 at 2017 11:33 AM

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I am physically unable to bring the fire anymore. But I would haul bullets and beans all day long. If the military needed me and would have me, I would do whatever was asked of me. Clean the shitter, message runner for SDNCO, whatever; I don't care.

To me it doesn't matter the rank they give me, I am still a member in good standing of a certain un-nameable non-organized junior enlisted group.

Response by SPC Steven Depuy made Feb 23 at 2017 11:52 AM

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lol, I am almost 58, fat, type II diabetic, and have bad knees. I would return as a private E-1 if there was some actual use for me and I was needed. I can't image what that could possibly be, but if they were that desperate, they needed my tired old ass, to hell with rank.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 25 at 2017 8:47 AM

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I think about getting back in ALL.THE.TIME. but I don't know that I could do it taking a hit on my rank. I made E-4 in the Army at 19 and then had to lose a stripe to join the Navy. I was an E-4 for almost the entire 6 years I was in the Navy (thanks to rate mergers and RIDICULOUS cut scores). With my current amount of life experience and education, it'd be hard for me to come back without a commission.

With all of that said, IF my country was truly in a desperate state and NEEDED me, I don't know how I could really turn down her call.

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Feb 25 at 2017 12:44 PM

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As Lee Greenwood sings, "I'd gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today." I would accept a downgrade to Major if the Air Force needed old guys like me. My Lt Col rank was "permanent" because I served after DOPMA was implemented.