If an Arab Spring happens in Iraq how does that effect the Middle East?

2016-05-20T15:34:37-04:00

The ongoing civil unrest has culminated in storming the once 'green zone' walls that now protect the current government facilities. If the current government losses it's grip how do you think that will impact Iraq, the region, and ISIS.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/05/20/protesters-storm-fortified-green-zone-baghdad/84652916/

Protesters storm fortified Green Zone in Baghdad

The Green Zone houses Iraqi government offices and Parliament.

Response by PO3 Sandra Gomke made May 20 at 2016 3:41 PM

2016-05-20T15:41:28-04:00

Anytime there is this kind of unrest, it just opens up the doors to invaders. With the Iraq people distracted, ISIL can just walk right in. I wonder who stirred up the unrest? Looks like classic baiting techniques.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made May 20 at 2016 3:53 PM

2016-05-20T15:53:42-04:00

Why are they climbing the Berlin wall?

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made May 20 at 2016 4:14 PM

2016-05-20T16:14:49-04:00

How would one be able to tell the difference from the normal chaos there now?

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made May 20 at 2016 4:24 PM

2016-05-20T16:24:08-04:00

Other than Tunisia these Arab Springs haven't turned out so well and even in the Tunisia Daesh Libya wants to put the Cabash on their new found freedoms.

Response by CPT Joseph K Murdock made May 20 at 2016 6:09 PM

2016-05-20T18:09:06-04:00

I don't see it. The country is to busy fighting each other. Biggest impact is the creation of the new government.

Response by PO3 William Farinas made May 24 at 2016 1:00 PM

2016-05-24T13:00:01-04:00

I do not think it would matter where the Arib Spring happens over there, because it is know good to the region. What I do not like is when our Politicians use us vets to go and fight to stop this group or that group and than you get a different President come in who does not support what we are doing and pull us out just to have to go back again and do the same dame thing over and over. Our leaders have no regard for the vets who lost there lives and limbs to fight for these people only to turn there backs on us when we need help. I want to see us go in kick ass and come home. Let the UN do the rebuilding after we leave. Screw the appeasement of the other countries. I did my tour over there, and I know that know matter what we do there will never be peace over there. We need to take care of home first and make sure we keep out the crazes from our Country. If we have to go fight, give us what we need to get the job done, so we do not have to keep going back and forth loosing to many lives for these screwed up people in DC. Hell you can see we give weapons and train them and when we leave, These chicken shits throw down there weapons and run, and the weapons end up in the hands of the enemies. WTF!!! is up with that. If they cant stand up and fight for there way of life why schooled we. This issue really upsets me about what is going on. Obama is the biggest reason for what is going on over there. He is the head of this Muslim up rising . He wants to bring America down to its knees. I have never seen any President get away with the things that he has done. I can't talk about this any more because I get so dam mad! I SUPPORT MY BROTHERS !!!

Response by MSgt Thomas Gentile made May 25 at 2016 8:06 AM

2016-05-25T08:06:48-04:00

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Response by Maj Gary Gault made May 25 at 2016 11:03 AM

2016-05-25T11:03:23-04:00

The Arab Spring is a journalists idea of a fresh new beginning but in reality it is the beginning of chaos in which the elements of some kind of order other than terrorists must take control. Look at Libya for an example.

Response by Cpl Mark A. Morris made May 25 at 2016 11:23 AM

2016-05-25T11:23:36-04:00

Greetings,

Arab Spring? What a stinking joke in words. Arab holiday of bloodshed is more accurate.

In Syria, the minority group ruled the majority. It appears the majority are Sunni. The Sunni, with help from whom, started a civil war. American tax monies appear to be helping in it.

Libya, a crazy self made COL, with Amazons for bodyguards, sold oil and gave up his chemical weapons. But, he turned down NATO's request, offered by Hillary, to be on CitiBanks board. A 35 billion dollar board seat. He refused the gold and got the lead.

Egypt. A 30 year ally was betrayed and Morsi came in only to be overthrown by General Sisi. Wasn't Morsi a Muslim Brotherhood Grand Wizard? Or, Grand Cyclops?

Before I write about Iraq and without mentioning North Africa, the chaos caused by the so called Arab Spring did what? How many died trying to cross the ocean to Greece and Italy? How many walked from Syria to Turkey? A mass migration of those who have no concept of a Constitution, or western culture. More chaos? A new civilization in Europe by force?

The current American administration appears to have spent a lot of time with Muslim Brotherhood types. If a new region was desired to be made with the Muslim Brotherhood pulling the strings, you couldn't ask for a better bunch of examples.

The cry, the majority should have their rights is propaganda. Islam will have it's Shari law.

What about Iraq? What a FUBAR! Now, we can discuss how the Shiia of Iraq, Iran and Syria are lined. Russia? But, I don't want to waste any more of your time. What a rotten mess the ME is. American blood and America treasure being used in a Middle East war to bring about what? Two Caliphates and a reborn Europe out of the ashes?

I have made my innuendo.

Mark A. Morris BS, RDMS, RVT
The State gains nothing from endless war.

Response by Maj Gary Gault made May 25 at 2016 3:14 PM

2016-05-25T15:14:10-04:00

Disaster mixed with fear that terrorists will gain the upper hand if a strong pro-democracy faction can take control immediately.

Response by CH (CPT) Jackson Day made May 25 at 2016 3:14 PM

2016-05-25T15:14:18-04:00

Iraq is comprised of three disparate groups of people -- Sunni Kurds in the North, who are semi autonomous, Shia Arabs in the South, who control the central government and are supported by the US and friendly with Iran, Sunni Arabs in the West, who have lost much influence, power, and economic status since Saddam Hussein was overthrown. Many of the Sunni Arabs in the West support Islamic State, which believes the Shia Muslims controlling the government are heretics and should be killed. So, first of all, it's hard to imagine any kind of "Arab Spring" and if there was one, it would weaken the Shia Central Government and strengthen the position of Islamic State in the west, as well as the autonomy of the Kurds in the North.

Response by A1C Lisa Casserly made May 25 at 2016 4:22 PM

2016-05-25T16:22:01-04:00

Well, not sure if this answers your question or not, but the one thing that grieves me, angers me is the fact that so many of our young men and women have lost their lives in that country, trying to stabilize things, and then Obama declared the war over and pulled out, knowing that the Iraqis were begging us to stay, knowing they were not ready to stand on their own, and left. And in the power vacuum that was left, ISIS got a good foothold and spread like a raging disease! I feel - as many of the Gold Star mothers, fathers, husbands and wives do - that the life of their soldier was wasted. That their blood was poured out on the ground for NO PURPOSE. And, I know how patterns work. If we don't clean this mess up, we are going to CONTINUE to pay for this idiocy with the most precious coin we have... the blood of our children, husbands, wives, and parents. We don't mind - hey, we're all volunteers! - possibly being asked to pay with our lives, but we really HATE having that gift/payment wasted.

Response by GySgt Duane DaVein made May 25 at 2016 5:16 PM

2016-05-25T17:16:20-04:00

Chaos of course.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 25 at 2016 5:48 PM

2016-05-25T17:48:40-04:00

everything we worked for, and suffered for will be lost

Response by MSG Don Burt made May 25 at 2016 6:13 PM

2016-05-25T18:13:51-04:00

ISIS is already in Iraq

Response by PO2 David Allender made May 25 at 2016 10:39 PM

2016-05-25T22:39:25-04:00

I think that an Arab spring would give ISIS an opportunity to take over Iraq. Iran, nest door would jusst love to see that happen. Plus losing Iraq woould take away any place the U.S. would have a toe-hold. The only friends that we still have in the Middle East, besides Israel, is Jordan, and they are fighting for their life now or very soon.

Response by SPC Byron Skinner made May 25 at 2016 10:56 PM

2016-05-25T22:56:41-04:00

Sp4. Byron Skinner. The Arab Spring movement is Islamic countries wanted to chose their own government no do what the colonial Europeans or the United States want them to. The picture with this post has nothing to do with The Arab Spring. It is Shiite Iranians protesting that there are to many Sunni's in the recently seated Parliament. iraq is gone. The Anbar is now controlled by what was once the ISIL, which disbanded in January. North of Baghdad is what will in all likelihood be Kurdistan. The remainder of iraq which is east of the Tigris River and south of Baghdad will be as it is now controlled by Iran with an all Shiite Government. The war in iraq is over, we didn't win, the fight against Radical Islam is over, we didn't win. As of Friday US Special Operations, in attempts to retake Raqqa from daash, a Baathists group who wants to return iraq to the honor and glory of Saddam Hussein. American forces are now fighting side by side with the SAA (Syrian Arab Army) of President Assad of Syria.

Response by Capt Christian D. Orr made May 26 at 2016 8:21 PM

2016-05-26T20:21:29-04:00

An Arab Spring in Iraq would simply create another power vacuum for extremists like ISIS to exploit. Look what an abysmal failure the Arab Spring has been everywhere else in the Middle East (except maybe Tunisia, and even there the situation is less than optimal).