Posted on Jun 19, 2018
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I am in army jrotc and planing to enlist this summer in ether the army or the navy, and I want to pursue a career Within special operations In the army or navy. Any suggestions if so why?
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SFC J Fullerton
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With the Army, you begin your training path with Infantry OSUT (one station unit training), which is basic training and then Infantry training. Followed by Airborne School. If you have a Ranger contract or 18 X (Special Forces), you then enter their respective training pipelines. If you wash out of either of those, you are already a qualified Airborne Infantryman and will be assigned as such. With the Navy, if you washout of any step of the SEAL training pipeline, expect to be reassigned to the "needs of the Navy" and likely spend the rest of your contract as a sailor aboard a ship. Not necessarily a bad thing if that is your cup of tea, but you won't be jumping out of planes in a ground combat arms job.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
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Yes, I still remember all of that. If that's his AFQT it's not bad. Still Category II the last time I looked, but pretty good. 18X requires a 105 GT score and at least a PULHES of 111221, I looked.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
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Excuse me, Option 40. It also states Tier 1 recruit.
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SFC J Fullerton
SFC J Fullerton
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PV2 (Join to see) - Good score. You just need to consider the reality that more people washout of spec ops than make it, and have a back up plan that you are comfortable with. So that could be as a paratrooper with the 82nd Airborne, or chipping paint and mopping floors on a ship. Your choice
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CPT Lawrence Cable Why wouldn’t he get 18X with a 72 ASVAB??
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Join the Marines, become a Marine Raider, then join the CIA.
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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Everyone wants to be "SPEC OPS"
Do you know what you actually want to do? You should consider what type of work you like when you're one of the 95% of people who join the military planning on going to some type of special operations and washing out. That percentage is probably an exaggeration... It's probably higher. My RIP class had 200 people show up. 90 people start. 30 finish. That doesn't even count the multitude either failed Airborne school or quit after.
My point is, you should think about a different job and join as that. When you've trained a while, then try out for a selection. Otherwise, you're going to come in on a special operations contract, most likely fail, and be reclassed to whatever the service you're in needs.
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Thank you for the advice sgt.
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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I hope you listen to it. Special ops contracts are the best tools the Army and Navy have for filling unwanted MOS's. They'll wash you out of the pipeline for anything. Not a lot of people come in wanting to be cooks, laundry and bath, water purifiers, fuelers, riggers, or petroleum specialists. But the moment you get dropped because you got injured on the obstacle course, you will now go to fill one of those jobs that no one else wanted to take.
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SFC (Join to see) - I wish I could vote this up 10 times. Well said.
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SFC J Fullerton
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Its amazing how many people who join the Army with an Option 40 Ranger contract that voluntarily drop the Ranger option after Infantry OSUT or Airborne School just because they are homesick and want to go home on leave instead of staying at FT Benning for more training while all their buddies go home on leave before reporting to their first assignments.
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