If I'm going through a Chapter 8 for a twin pregnancy, and already did the clinic packet for separation, do I still participate in PT?

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Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made May 22 at 2022 7:54 AM

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What has your doctor said, and has he given you a profile siter CPL Private RallyPoint Member ?

Response by Lt Col Charlie Brown made May 22 at 2022 9:02 AM

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Go to the clinic and ask for a profile if you don't already have one.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 22 at 2022 9:49 AM

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Upon confirmation of your pregnancy (by examination or a lab test), your PCM should have created an electronic physical profile that is effective for the duration of the pregnancy
Although you are exempt from your regular physical training (PT) and testing during your pregnancy, it is mandatory for all pregnant and post partum soldiers to participate in Pregnancy Physical Training (PPT) and Postpartum Physical Training (PPT).
Your Chapter packet is NOT going to exempt you from any training.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made May 22 at 2022 11:37 AM

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Unless you are on a profile you will need to meet all Standards until you separate.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 22 at 2022 12:03 PM

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Yes. I have had this issue in the past. There is no regulation or policy that exempts a Soldier from PT after they had a physical. Often, it is down as a courtesy to aid them in the transition process. If you were going to interviews or meetings for your transition then your command may exempt you from PT. If your command has not exempted you then it is your place of duty. You should be going to P3T instead of going to your regular units PT. If that isn't happening then you should ask your leadership about it.

The physical is meant to roll up your injuries from service. If you are injured after your physical then you will just get a new physical. I have had Soldiers and NCOs claim they could do anything after a physical. After reviewing all of the policies I could and consulting legal they were told to conduct PT or be held accountable.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 22 at 2022 12:46 PM

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That whole thing about not doing PT after you get your separation physical is an Army urban myth. The chances of you being injured during Pregnancy Profile PT are below minimal. PPT is designed to minimize stress and injury during pregnancy and that leads to better results during pregnancy and delivery.

If you are injured, you just go to sick call and you can still add that to your VA claim when you separate, if you are significantly injured.

Response by SGT Robert Wager made May 23 at 2022 12:58 AM

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You are required to be at your appointed place of duty at the appointed time, in the correct uniform unless exempted from such by your commander thru the NCO support channel.

Unless you are exempted from PT formations and actual PT by a profile then yes you are required to both physically be present and participate within the limits of your profile. Your chapter packet alone exempts you of nothing. I would suggest talking with your squad leader/section sergeant to come up with a solution. If your commander is sitting on paperwork then a visit to his commander through their open door policy might be in order. Before you do that make it clear to your NCO chain that is your intention.

Response by SSG Rick Miller made May 23 at 2022 8:50 AM

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Hold up. If you are getting a Chapter 8, that ain't because you're pregnant. Chapter 8 is an entry level conduct or performance (trainee) discharge. Chapter 6 is pregnancy. One is self explanatory (Chapter 6), the other is usually for "inability to adjust" to military life, fraudulent enlistment, or just being an air thief. In either case, you are still obliged to attend and participate in any and all training, unless issued a valid profile by competent medical authority.

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made May 23 at 2022 9:27 AM

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There are a few things going on. Your profile for being pregnant will excuse you from things you can't do in your current condition but if they are running or playing sports you can't participate in you should be doing something else as an alternative. Maintaining accountability during training evolutions or PT has less to do about you and more about how people before you abused the system and now they have to micromanage folks.

Doing something low impact is good for you unless you are already to the point you are on half days or bed rest.

But just as SFC Boyd said, it is a myth that you can opt out of Unit activities after the final physical. You are still a part of the unit until you aren't. If something happens you can go to medical, get it documented and it will be something you can associate with a VA claim down the road. The final physical isn't the only thing the VA references. I was able to get documentation added to my record the week I was medically retired.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2022 2:17 PM

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Yes, you will still be required to conduct unit PRT within the confines of the profile given to you by your military medical provider. If your provider did NOT give you one, then you need to go back and get one.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 21 at 2023 4:10 AM

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Oh, the journey of a twin pregnancy is quite something, isn't it? A friend of mine went through a similar phase. She was also enrolled in a program that required physical training, much like your Chapter 8 situation. When she found out about her twin pregnancy, the first thing she did was have a chat with her healthcare provider.

They decided together that she could continue with modified PT exercises that were safe for her and her twins. It's crucial to have open communication with your healthcare provider and the military personnel handling your case.

By the way, during her pregnancy, my friend found some helpful information about twin pregnancies and related topics on https://4babystuff.com/can-twins-cause-false-negative-pregnancy-test/ It's a great resource for gathering knowledge.

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