If my primary weapon is the M4A1, then why is my M249L score populating on my PPW?

2020-12-08T01:03:49-05:00

I shot my M4 back in May as well as my 249. My M4 score had been on my PPW since then. Until November when it was replaced with my 249 score which I’m getting 0 points for. Orderly room said that my 249 was listed as my primary and then changed it back to my M4 but my PPW is still not reflecting it. What’s going on???

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 8 at 2020 1:36 AM

2020-12-08T01:36:02-05:00

What is your UMR slot and what is the MTOE weapon assigned to that slot?

Also the mechanics updating score cards requires a weapon be assigned in the system, otherwise the data entry will not stick.

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Dec 8 at 2020 4:11 AM

2020-12-08T04:11:40-05:00

What's the time frame? 1 week, 3 months or six months?
1 week - keep checking.
3 months - speak to your commander about the clerk not doing his job correctly - laziness vs incompetence. I would rather see neither but would choose a lazy one over an incompetent.
6 months - incompetent leadership.

Response by MAJ Ronnie Reams made Dec 8 at 2020 9:05 AM

2020-12-08T09:05:47-05:00

Isn't the 249 a light MG that replaced the M-60? MG* is crew served not individual, as I recall, and the gunner has a pistol, the asst gunner a carbine and the ammo bearer a rifle. Sounds as if you the assistant gunner if you have a carbine. Now this is by the book and, of course, there are weapon pick ups, if in a combat zone, and folks carry what they want.

*My experience was with 1919s and M-60s.

Response by SSG Samuel Kermon made Dec 8 at 2020 9:34 AM

2020-12-08T09:34:04-05:00

Forgive my ignorance but my question is why both scores aren't reflected? You earned them, shot them both and if proficient with both should be allowed to have the paperwork show it. Should not matter what your MOS, squad job or any other criteria. I can remember a time that you did get credit on paper and the weapon bar on the marksman badge for the scoring of that weapon or system.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Dec 8 at 2020 10:11 AM

2020-12-08T10:11:03-05:00

It's a DTMS issue. Someone in DTMS used the weapons association APP and linked you to an M249.

Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Dec 8 at 2020 1:25 PM

2020-12-08T13:25:47-05:00

Either a bad entry on DTMS or you are MTOE slotted with a M249. Your pick!