If someone has 10 years of National Guard service, but then goes Active Duty, how do they calculate their retirement?

2019-01-24T11:04:04-05:00

If someone has 10 years of National Guard service but then goes Active Duty. How do they calculate their retirement? Will they still have to do 20 years of active duty? Basically, how does the Creditable SVC for Retirement Pay points equate to years reduced on the Active Duty requirement? Does that make sense?

Response by CW5 Jack Cardwell made Jan 24 at 2019 11:08 AM

2019-01-24T11:08:39-05:00

There is a formula that is used. Your NG time is converted to Active Duty time, sorry I could not find link.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2019 11:11 AM

2019-01-24T11:11:26-05:00

Depends are they trying to retire as national guard member but as active duty. You need twenty good years to retire from active duty. that means 20 ( 365 days). Would depend on how many years they acquired during their guard time, if they deployed that time would obviously count, but unless they were on extended active duty orders, I would expect they would have quite a few to do. However, just a few years on active duty will jump their points considerably so if they want to retire at all and can do an active tour I would recommend it. For example after 7 years active duty I have more POINTS than most people who retire, but not the years yet. If you get enough active duty years you're percentage would get high enough to almost be a active duty. I'd like to get more active time so that my retirement would be close to what a full regular retirement is..Did that help?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2019 11:31 AM

2019-01-24T11:31:41-05:00

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Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2019 12:52 PM

2019-01-24T12:52:49-05:00

Your retirement points in the National Guard do not count for anything. In order to received an active-duty retirement you must complete at least 20 years of active-duty time. In order to receive a reserve retirement your active duty time well count for the maximum allowable points in a good year.
Your pay entry date should remain the same, but the basic active service date will be calculated starting the day the service member enters active duty on this current., minus all the time of active duty service prior.
So, if you enter service in 2019 and you have two years of active duty time conducted National Guard time oh, your new active service date will be calculated to 2017. Your retirement date will be based off of 20 years from that date

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jan 24 at 2019 6:22 PM

2019-01-24T18:22:03-05:00

When I converted to AD from the AR. The Army took all my basic training, deployment, and weekend drill time for AD time.

Response by LCDR Robert S. made Jan 26 at 2019 12:31 AM

2019-01-26T00:31:57-05:00

In order to *qualify* for an active duty retirement, they need 20 years of active service. Their active time in the NG counts towards that 20 years. Once they qualify for the active duty retirement, the inactive duty points they earned in the NG will add to their retirement pay, at a rate of 1 day per point.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 8 at 2021 7:05 PM

2021-08-08T19:05:06-04:00

Actually, ARNG and USAR duty does count but only in increments that you actually served. For example IDT MUTA 4 is 2 actually days but you get credit for 4 days of AD, and the 15 days of AT. The time spent in AIT also counts 1:1. In COMPO2 your RDNCO or S1 can pull your RPAM and you will get a exact amount of AD days.