If something is not specifically mentioned on an AER (DA 1059), can it be mentioned on an NCOER?

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 05:08:30 -0400

I'm currently working on my NCOER support form. In February, I was the DHG at the Postal Operations course. My academic evaluation report does not specifically mention I was DHG. All it says was my class rank was 1 of 29 and that I was Commandant's List. Can it be mentioned that I got DHG? If not, can it be mentioned that I got a Certificate of Achievement for being DHG? Appreciate the help and guidance. SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SFC James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" LTC Stephen F. CPL Dave Hoover SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth SSG Private RallyPoint Member Capt Dwayne Conyers CPT Jack Durish MSG Private RallyPoint Member

Response by CW5 Jack Cardwell made Oct 2 at 2020 5:13 AM

CW5 Jack Cardwell — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 05:13:01 -0400

I would mentioned that you received Certificate of Achievement for DHG. Better safe than sorry.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2020 6:04 AM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 06:04:33 -0400

One thing you may also be able to do that could help you in the future is having it annotated on your SRB. For NCOES schools, you can get CL (for Commandants List) right next to the school in the SRB. I’m not sure it is even possible to put DHG (I’ve never been one) but it is definitely possible to put CL. DHG may meet the S1 requirement to put CL next to the school if DHG is not an option in the system. These are highly valued data points that Segreants Major recognize at the SFC and MSG boards. They literally stand out like a sore thumb because of where they are annotated on the SRB.

As far as adding it to your NCOER, I don’t think it can be added because it’s in your 1059. Remember, you are supposed to have nonrated codes on your eval for schools that generate 1059s.

Keep in mind that it isn’t going to matter either way when the E7 board looks at your NCOERs. They hardly, if ever, view NCOERs below the SSG level. That doesn’t mean it’s unimportant. Learning the NCOER writing style and getting practice formulating bullets is where you really gain value for yourself as a SGT.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2020 6:06 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 06:06:20 -0400

As long as you have some documentation in your OMPF (the COA), then you can write it either way in my opinion. If I was your rater, I would ask, "Is it true?" and "Do you have documentation?" If both of those are yes, then write it whichever way you think it sounds better.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2020 6:25 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 06:25:54 -0400

If is not specifically mentioned in the 1059, than it didn't happen. The 1059 does not have a DHS block, you can be CL. How to take credit in the NCOER? Simple; ranked #1 out of 29 on the course. You are NOT authorized to mention specific awards received during your rated time. You can use words such as: commended by, recognized, etc. Never put received and AAM for whatever action on your NCOER, is not a valid comment.

Response by MSG Gary Eckert made Oct 2 at 2020 7:07 AM

MSG Gary Eckert — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 07:07:33 -0400

I haven’t stayed current on NCOERs; however, if the 1059 schools are still non-rated time then you cannot include anything that pertains to the school on the NCOER since it is not part of the rating period. Check with your S1, they can provided the regulatory guidelines.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2020 1:49 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 13:49:38 -0400

No, the 1059 covers the period you were in class. On your NCOER that should be non rated time. You can add your CL to the course listing on your ERB.