If the junior enlisted had a day to run the army, what do you think would happen?

SPC(P) Gildardo Navarro — Mon, 13 Mar 2017 23:15:49 -0400

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2017 11:18 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 13 Mar 2017 23:18:25 -0400

Look at the Chicago gang violence. There you go. Thats how it would end up

Response by SFC George Smith made Mar 13 at 2017 11:23 PM

SFC George Smith — Mon, 13 Mar 2017 23:23:23 -0400

They would Find a Bunch of them hanging in the trees By their ankles suffering from severe case of the Dreaded "Gibbs Slap Syndrome"....

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2017 11:24 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 13 Mar 2017 23:24:16 -0400

SPC(P) Gildardo Navarro Chas. Lower enlisted do not have the knowledge, skills, or experience needed to run the Army.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2017 11:38 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 13 Mar 2017 23:38:31 -0400

Nothing. They would go home and drink.

Response by SN Greg Wright made Mar 14 at 2017 12:01 AM

SN Greg Wright — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 00:01:56 -0400

This already happens. Just attend any Navy crossing the line ceremony.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Mar 14 at 2017 12:22 AM

COL Charles Williams — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 00:22:29 -0400

SPC(P) Gildardo Navarro Training Holiday, and Free Beer.

Response by James Mohler made Mar 14 at 2017 12:29 AM

James Mohler — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 00:29:02 -0400

They would ruin it

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Mar 14 at 2017 1:38 AM

Capt Seid Waddell — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 01:38:46 -0400

Would they let butter bars help?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 14 at 2017 1:47 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 01:47:46 -0400

I think you'd have a lot of drunk troops doing absolutely nothing.

Response by SPC Saundra Teater made Mar 14 at 2017 2:39 AM

SPC Saundra Teater — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 02:39:02 -0400

They order everyone to have a big celebration, drinking, living it up, stupid decorations, glitter and confetti bombs. Start this at 3 in the morning, go all morning and afternoon. And right at that moment you just couldn't party anymore, announce a surprise inspection and any infractions would mean every person had to do a ten mile run, in full battle gear.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 14 at 2017 8:53 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 08:53:17 -0400

Onward, Buttercup! There's f**kery to spread!!

Response by 1SG Mike Case made Mar 14 at 2017 9:17 AM

1SG Mike Case — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 09:17:39 -0400

They would bitch because they were in charge and they would blame the Officers for not working hard enough.

Response by TSgt Bruce Davis made Mar 14 at 2017 9:28 AM

TSgt Bruce Davis — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 09:28:41 -0400

this would take strategic planning on the higher enlisted side. haven't you ever heard "why do we do it this way?" or "why is it done this way?" well give them a day or two to plan out how THEY would do it differently and give them ONE day to implement it! most of the time they'll learn why it's done "the way it's done". but...maybe there's a hard charger out there that will come up with a process improvement or let their individual leadership shine. whenever I got to a new unit and supervised new troops I told them about the Experiment of the Five Monkeys. (it's worth a google) and I told them I didn't want any of them to do anything just because "that's the way it's always been done..."

Response by SGT Dave Tracy made Mar 14 at 2017 9:38 AM

SGT Dave Tracy — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 09:38:51 -0400

Hands: Firmly in pockets!

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Mar 14 at 2017 10:08 AM

PO3 Steven Sherrill — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 10:08:44 -0400

SPC(P) Gildardo Navarro I think this sums it up best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA1SxZoFmOU

Ghostbusters - Mass Hysteria

Response by SGT Philip Roncari made Mar 14 at 2017 10:40 AM

SGT Philip Roncari — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 10:40:08 -0400

Having myself being lower enlisted ,my only response would be ,"the inmates running the asylum "!

Response by SGT David T. made Mar 14 at 2017 10:44 AM

SGT David T. — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 10:44:58 -0400

DONSA!!!!

Response by PFC Alexander Oliveira made Mar 14 at 2017 11:18 AM

PFC Alexander Oliveira — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 11:18:03 -0400

ZONK

Response by MGySgt James Forward made Mar 14 at 2017 11:28 AM

MGySgt James Forward — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 11:28:02 -0400

CHAOS! Liberty Call! Semper Fi.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Mar 14 at 2017 12:05 PM

MSG Brad Sand — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 12:05:03 -0400

Same thing as any day on four day weekend.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 14 at 2017 3:02 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 15:02:43 -0400

I think George Miller made a couple movies on it.......it would be a lovely day.

Response by SFC Stephen King made Mar 14 at 2017 4:43 PM

SFC Stephen King — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 16:43:39 -0400

ZONK

Response by PO1 Brian Austin made Mar 14 at 2017 5:54 PM

PO1 Brian Austin — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 17:54:09 -0400

During ship deployments we'd have "CO for a day" raffles for MWR. It usually ended up being Holiday Routine with fish call and a steel beach picnic.

Response by SPC(P) Gildardo Navarro made Mar 14 at 2017 7:58 PM

SPC(P) Gildardo Navarro — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 19:58:54 -0400

i think the E-4 mafia will take over and haze pfc's and below

Response by CPL Anthony Slaughter made Mar 14 at 2017 10:39 PM

CPL Anthony Slaughter — Tue, 14 Mar 2017 22:39:55 -0400

Training Holiday.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2017 11:14 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 11:14:46 -0400

The enemy would attack and overwhelm the armed forces while the people running it would be out on a smoke break.

On a serious note "running the army" implies to me, not the decision making, but sitting in the position dealing with the demands of being a command team at whatever echelon. I will concede that there are times higher makes decisions that break hearts, but its best to heed the adage, don't judge a person until you walk a mile their shoes. Throughout my career I asked why this and why that, one day a NCO told me if you don't like the way things work, work your butt off to get in that position and run it the way you wanted. So I did and by doing so I learned two things: no matter how high you rise in rank, someone will always be there to rain on your parade and I did my best to run my unit the way I wanted it ran when I was on the bottom looking up.

My stance is I don't speculate on fiction, I do say as you rise through the ranks, adopt the techniques from mentors and leaders you admired and work to ensure those you don't aren't part of your leadership style.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2017 11:41 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 11:41:28 -0400

WWIII , lol

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2017 6:40 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:40:52 -0400

Probably something like this......

Response by SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA made Mar 16 at 2017 4:16 PM

SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA — Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:16:13 -0400

Zonk!

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 16 at 2017 5:43 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 16 Mar 2017 17:43:17 -0400

I could finally push my E-5 packet through since nobody's watching. I might even ask Drill Private to promote me on the spot via 4187. Then I return the next day to smoke his ass for his kind gesture.

Response by SGT Alejandro Benavides made Mar 17 at 2017 1:31 PM

SGT Alejandro Benavides — Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:31:48 -0400

The military would operate from 9 am- 2 pm. PT would consist of Yoga or Crossfit.
There would be no balls, just a bunch of keggers.
Everything will be cleaned nicely, but they would leave immediately after, even if it's at 9:15 am.
No parades.
No "fun" runs. If there were, they would meet at 8:45 exactly to be formed up at 9.

Response by Cpl Tom Surdi made Mar 17 at 2017 2:17 PM

Cpl Tom Surdi — Fri, 17 Mar 2017 14:17:10 -0400

Well considering it's the Army (come one this is the same branch that needs a 3rd arm to fire their weapons properly http://www.defensenews.com/articles/us-army-testing-third-arm-to-hold-your-weapon-boost-lethality) would anyone notice? Oh, and I don't want to see any 1st or 2nd Lts sounding off about this. You guys are about as boot as they are!

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Response by SGT Tony Clifford made Mar 17 at 2017 3:50 PM

SGT Tony Clifford — Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:50:43 -0400

All this contempt for joe. They would probably act like how they think there supervisors act because they don't know how else. Some would sham some would try very hard so that they might be looked at for promotion. It wouldn't be a bad idea to let the Joes try to run the company for a day like organization day. It would give them an idea of what the team leaders, squad leaders , PSG and 1sg deal with regularly.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 27 at 2017 8:56 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 27 Mar 2017 20:56:01 -0400

Zonk

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 16 at 2019 11:51 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 16 Jun 2019 11:51:12 -0400

I believe this was done during the Chinese Cultural Revolution in the 1940s. It scares me to see that such ideas are being entertained and I may consider distancing myself from this web site.

Response by SGT Trace Gilbert made Jun 16 at 2019 5:07 PM

SGT Trace Gilbert — Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:07:06 -0400

My old reserve unit did this one day. Ranks were exchanged. It was a mess

Response by CPL Mark Andersen made Jun 16 at 2019 11:00 PM

CPL Mark Andersen — Sun, 16 Jun 2019 23:00:13 -0400

Grass would be walked on.

Response by SSG Jerel Parker made Jun 17 at 2019 12:50 AM

SSG Jerel Parker — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 00:50:08 -0400

If the junior enlisted were given jobs with authority, I would hope I had trained them well enough to do the job. It is every Senior NCO's job to train and make sure the soldiers below them can one day do the job they were trained to do from basic and MOS training. I would hope that every soldier can do his/her job to the best of their abilities, and when we PCS or retire our jobs our done by those junior enlisted and we can rest easy knowing the job is in good hands. If we all ever think that we are the only ones that can do the job, then how can those junior enlisted ever move up in rank. The Services are the backbone of this countries strength and power in the rest of the world. So, when we ask our soldiers to go forward and protect us are we going to have confidence in them, or doubt their abilities, because they weren't trained right by the Senior NCO's when they worked their ways through the ranks. We have to be sure that every soldier is trained and disciplined in all facets of their jobs, and keep us safe at night knowing that they are the best they can be, and we all were junior enlisted at one time of another in the service, so be sure all of our soldiers are trained the way we need them to be, and we can rest easy knowing they are protecting our rights as the best trained soldiers in the world...…

Response by SSG Ralph Watkins made Jun 17 at 2019 10:09 AM

SSG Ralph Watkins — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 10:09:33 -0400

There was an episode of MASH years ago where they did a British military tradition & had the lowest ranking person run the unit for a day & the highest ranking person did the lowest job. My one unit did it for fun. They chose the right enlisted people to do it at least. Some of our lowest ranking people just were not smart enough to function outside their assigned jobs. It went well overall. It allowed for everybody to get an appreciation for what their higher ranking & lower ranking counterparts had to deal with. Our CO was a great man & didn't have an issue with doing that. We tried to do it again a year later with an new commander. He couldn't bring himself to do it.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2019 10:16 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 19 Jun 2019 22:16:16 -0400

Look at what happens when there is a nco and officer pd scheduled at the same time

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 29 at 2019 6:44 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Oct 2019 18:44:52 -0400

I think they would get bored of doing nothing. End up doing their jobs. Getting it done. And only working when needed. Instead of randomly getting an O2 part at 1645 and having to stay till 2330 to put it on

Response by SGT Mathew Husen made Oct 29 at 2019 8:04 PM

SGT Mathew Husen — Tue, 29 Oct 2019 20:04:38 -0400

Has anyone read the Lord of the Flies?

Response by Sgt Dale Briggs made Sep 20 at 2021 7:43 AM

Sgt Dale Briggs — Mon, 20 Sep 2021 07:43:02 -0400

The question is the answer, if junior enlisted was in charge of the Army nothing would happen. Nothing at all.