If the pentagon didn’t mandate that all service members receive the COVID vaccine, would you have gotten it?

2021-08-27T12:23:33-04:00

To be clear, I'm not Anti Vax but I'm also not vaccinated. With all the immunizations and drugs the government has given us like anthrax, smallpox, doxycycline, mefloquine..etc. service members and Veterans are still concerned about the COVID-19 vaccine. Even after the FDA approved Pfizer, I was not planning on receiving the vaccine and would not have gotten it without being forced by the Military. Now that the pentagon mandated it, I obviously have no choice. I’m curious to hear other veteran/service members opinions are?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2021 12:29 PM

2021-08-27T12:29:31-04:00

I will have to answer YES since I got the J&J back in March when I was in Saudi

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2021 12:34 PM

2021-08-27T12:34:34-04:00

SSgt Timothy Prevost I've always believed in "personal choice". Now that the FDA has approved the Pfizer vaccine... I believe the military requiring everyone in the service being vaccinated a necesary step to be mission ready.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Aug 27 at 2021 12:40 PM

2021-08-27T12:40:33-04:00

Of course. I got it long before it was mandated.
No one should have to be forced to be a responsible adult and/or to care about the people around us.

Response by Capt Gregory Prickett made Aug 27 at 2021 12:49 PM

2021-08-27T12:49:10-04:00

I was one of the first to be vaccinated, and did so not just for myself, but for society as a whole. It's my view that those who won't get vaccinated are not concerned about their fellow citizens.

Response by Lt Col Mark Avery made Aug 27 at 2021 12:53 PM

2021-08-27T12:53:52-04:00

The military never misses an opportunity to remind me why retirement was the right call. No, I wouldn't get it until a regular vaccine (not an mRNA spike protein version) was fully through Phase 3 long term testing, which is the only way the FDA is supposed to grant full approval. Of the ones available in the USA, that is only the J&J product, and it's a LONG way from full Phase 3 testing completion. Of course, none of them can be because that phase takes three years to complete.
Which begs the question, how could any of the vaccines receive full FDA approval based on science rather than politics?

Response by MSG William Wold made Aug 27 at 2021 12:55 PM

2021-08-27T12:55:53-04:00

Well I was a rather sickly person it seemed. Especially the periodic shots to stay deployable. The annual flu shot put me down for days. After I retired in 2004, I never got a flu shot. Never had as much as a sniffle.
Fast forward to 2020. Decided the way things were going perhaps I should get a flu shot. I had no, zip reaction. Perhaps over vaccinated? BUt I was a little disappointed there wasn't even a sore arm,
February this year VA offered Pfizer Covid shot. My wife cannot take shots because of health issues too numerous to mention here, so I thought at least I can go out and about with the shot.
First one was nothing. Second 30 days later, about 14 hours go by I felt "off". Ate a light dinner and went to bed. Woke up at 4am drenched, shaking, chills. Got up to pee, sponge bath, changed sheets back to bed. Woke up at 4PM, ate a snack, back to bed. Next day got up as if nothing happened.
It's not that I am for or against these shots, I just have other battles to address.
Well it's nice to have a new pharmacist in the family who has been doing some extensive research on these shots. So reluctantly, my wife got the Merderna shot two weeks ago. 7 days later her arm swelled up and a bad rash with some blisters. It's almost nothing now, but next week is her second shot. We'll see what happens.

Response by PFC David Foster made Aug 27 at 2021 1:10 PM

2021-08-27T13:10:10-04:00

After the scientist tell us over and over that it works, it just seems totally irresponsible to refuse it. It seems like everyone would want to do their share to keep the mothers and fathers, and brothers and sisters and children safe from COVID19.

Response by CW4 Guy Butler made Aug 27 at 2021 1:10 PM

2021-08-27T13:10:29-04:00

I got mine in March; fully vaccinated around 1 May. Pfizer vaccine.

It’s nowhere near as bad as the anthrax vaccines.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2021 1:11 PM

2021-08-27T13:11:33-04:00

I got the moderna in Febuary. No bad effects. It was my choice to get it
Now that that the government is mandating it, I might not.
Mandating things breeds doubt and mistrust. Onstead of mandating it, stop the double speak, take the polititions out of it and show people the truth and the science.
Let people make educated decisions.
My wife is refusing, doesn't trust the government. We have some heated discussions,usually with me telling her I don't want to have to throw dirt on her face

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2021 1:29 PM

2021-08-27T13:29:56-04:00

Statistically one is better off getting it rather than not, and by A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, I didn't jump to the front of the line. I knew the USAR would eventually give us financial incentive to get it done by way of making it an approved LHI action.

So yea, I was all over it once I got PAID for half the day of my time to the free vaccination at the VA.

Now, the bummer part was my second shot was administered during a BA weekend, so I didn't get paid for it or an additional retirement point.

Now, presumably, it's the VA's problem if the vaccination causes me problems down the line.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2021 1:49 PM

2021-08-27T13:49:40-04:00

At this time, no. Like you I'm not anti-vax, but I'm not in a rush to go out and get this shot.

Response by SSG Dave Johnston made Aug 27 at 2021 1:54 PM

2021-08-27T13:54:47-04:00

Back in '02 prior to the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan DOD mandated an Anthrax vaccination prior to deployment... that "mandate' was canceled by the courts based on the "vaccine" being a EUA and untested.... the current vaccines for the 'Beer" virus, even though they are "approved', still haven't passed all the required steps in how medications are suppose to be approved...

Response by SP5 Sam Powell made Aug 27 at 2021 1:58 PM

2021-08-27T13:58:14-04:00

When drafted no one seemed to care what I wanted. I was just told to get in line with the others. I got my COVID shots as soon as I could. I'm not anti- anti-vaxer because I think there are just too many stupid people in the world.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2021 2:01 PM

2021-08-27T14:01:30-04:00

SSgt Timothy Prevost I received the shots and will get the Booster shot when I am eligible. If I was active duty, I would have received the shots. With over 630 thousand deaths and a FDA approved Vaccine, it makes sense to get the shots. Getting the shots will also help protect the older most vulnerable folks.

Response by MSgt Mark Bucher made Aug 27 at 2021 2:16 PM

2021-08-27T14:16:51-04:00

I got mine in Feb, Mar at the VA in Columbia MO. A no-brainer

Response by PO3 Kevin Wilson made Aug 27 at 2021 2:17 PM

2021-08-27T14:17:58-04:00

I absolutely would and did get the vaccine. Polio once was everywhere and the shots took care of that.

Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Aug 27 at 2021 2:19 PM

2021-08-27T14:19:31-04:00

I always got all the shots I was scheduled for by the service and I'm positive while in Vietnam and the things We were exposed to that prevented a lot of problems. I never even had a cold during a full year there but I figure with all the shots I got they probably covered every disease known to Mankind. I'm now retired but I did get both covid shots as did my wife which was our choice but based on guidance from My own family physician and NOT the government. I can remember booster shots for other things while growing up, I'll get those also but for Myself and My wife, NOT because someone told us too. I'm in good health and intend to stay that way and take whatever precautions My physician recommends and I figure Politicians that can't even figure out how to govern stop trying to dictate health care when they can't even handle their own jobs.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2021 2:20 PM

2021-08-27T14:20:46-04:00

Absolutely! I got mine back in April while at Knox.

Response by Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis made Aug 27 at 2021 2:44 PM

2021-08-27T14:44:00-04:00

Short answer: Yes.
Somewhat longer answer: Heak, yes!

Response by Cpl Vic Burk made Aug 27 at 2021 2:46 PM

2021-08-27T14:46:48-04:00

If I was still on active duty and it was mandated I would go along with the program because I was ordered to. However, I am still skeptical because it really wasn't tested long enough. The vaccine was pushed out fast due to public pressure. I have been tested three times so far and it has been negative each time. If anyone is in a situation where they could easily get it, that is me. On any given day probably a thousand students pass in front of my classroom while I am on hall duty not to mention in direct contact with another eighty in the classroom. Then in addition several students a day from the JROTC program that come by to see me. We always shake hands when they arrive and sometimes when they leave as well. Maybe I am lucky? Personally I am for free choice.

Response by SFC Randy Hellenbrand made Aug 27 at 2021 2:51 PM

2021-08-27T14:51:14-04:00

If I was still in, YES!!!!!!!!!! I have no right to put my fellow Americans at risk.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2021 2:53 PM

2021-08-27T14:53:20-04:00

Yes. I got mine back in March.

Response by SGT Aaron Atwood made Aug 27 at 2021 3:12 PM

2021-08-27T15:12:07-04:00

I got it so I could go on a TAD trip where I would've been able to see my folks again, but the right people didn't know I got the vaccine until it was too late. I felt it was moot to get at the time. I feel it is now further moot to get since we're back to wearing masks anywhere and everywhere regardless of vaccine status.

Response by Cpl Benjamin Long made Aug 27 at 2021 3:24 PM

2021-08-27T15:24:59-04:00

Better question is there in enough people rejecting the mandate to mutiny against the upper command?

Response by Sgt John Steinmeier made Aug 27 at 2021 3:26 PM

2021-08-27T15:26:28-04:00

Obviously if you are active duty you are subject to get the vaccine along with the cocktail of other crap you have to do.
I am hesitant to get one of the current COVID vaccinations as I am not the type of person to rush out and get the newest thing. The VID shots are a new thing and I am leery of not only their effectiveness, but also side effects up to and including death. I am waiting for a revised version. Basically I see the current stuff as Windows 8. I will wait for the Windows 10 version which will be far more polished as less buggy.

Response by LTC Robert Vanauken made Aug 27 at 2021 3:46 PM

2021-08-27T15:46:44-04:00

I'm retired now, but yes I would get vaccinated if I was active duty and had a choice. I did my own research and have known many people who have contracted Covid-19. The benefits of the shot(s) outweighed the risks for me.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2021 4:21 PM

2021-08-27T16:21:52-04:00

Yes. I am retired and not mandated to get the vaccine. There isn't a valid reason for me not to be vaccinated. Folks go off about long term risks and go scarf down pre-workout and supplements that are not FDA approved. The small risk of a rare side effect is better than the much worse risk of having COVID and even if survived dealing with long term side effects. I have lost 5 family members to COVID and have roughly 12 that survived but they are all suffering from long term effects even the young.

Response by PO2 Russell "Russ" Lincoln made Aug 27 at 2021 4:22 PM

2021-08-27T16:22:40-04:00

I'm in the healthcare field, and not getting any younger so both my wife and I got it as soon as we were able.

I was in the Marines in the 70's when the original swine flu was going around, we were vaccinated for it. The immunization put at least half of our company out for 2 to 3 days. It was later determined that the vaccine didn't work like it was supposed to.

I still think that vaccination is the only way we will get through this pandemic.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2021 4:36 PM

2021-08-27T16:36:30-04:00

I got it in March before it was mandated - so yes.

Everyone has choices even in the military. It's just either you get mandatory vaccinations or you can be administratively separated.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Aug 27 at 2021 4:51 PM

2021-08-27T16:51:31-04:00

Part of Operational Readiness is vaccinations. If you get sick while deployed and your unit has to replace you, the entire unit suffers (assuming you were worth bringing) Anyone who doesn't get the shot doesn't give a shit about the unit or it's mission

Response by SPC Jesse Davis made Aug 27 at 2021 4:51 PM

2021-08-27T16:51:59-04:00

The fact that there are any nos or any excuses is precisely the reason why it needs to be mandated.

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Aug 27 at 2021 5:16 PM

2021-08-27T17:16:57-04:00

I would and did get it long before and mention of mandate came around.

Response by SP6 Greg Jetter made Aug 27 at 2021 5:27 PM

2021-08-27T17:27:44-04:00

As an old combat medic 91b from the 80's , having witness command dictating vaccines , that later proved to be fatal to some and life destroying to others (anthrax, swine flu , and a few other little nice ones, like agent orange), I would not submit , and if you do your directly responsible for the fall of America to the left and the communist who now run the pentagon . Remember "ALL enemies " foreign and domestic , in this case the domestic enemies that are currently in power actively trying to destroy the nation , mass vax of the fighting force is just another step in defeating the armed forces , you can't fight a war when 80 % of your force is either dead or dying from a vax command insisted they take , even knowing that it was experimental and it was killing millions world wide.

That being said , nothing will change until command suffers the losses that it is self inflecting . as they say "hind sight is 20 20" ..... good luck to all my active duty brother's and sisters , i hope you folks find at least one general that has balls and cares about his or her's soldiers instead of ass kissing higher for promotions. Though that seems less likely as the days go by , America was once a great country , now it's turning to shit right before our eys. good luck.

Response by PO3 David Fries made Aug 27 at 2021 5:32 PM

2021-08-27T17:32:02-04:00

Not beholden to the DoD anymore, but I got it regardless. I am a first responder and have family members who were/are at risk.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Aug 27 at 2021 5:56 PM

2021-08-27T17:56:43-04:00

Here is the thing. The Pentagon can mandate it all they like. Just because they mandate it does not make it legal. Now, the moment that the COVID Vaccine cleared the FDA on a full level that was not experimental then the Pentagon was fully legal and within its rights to mandate the vaccine be administered.

The Vaccine is a choice. Period. I did it, when it first became available, to protect not just myself but my loved ones and my community. Could there be complications? Yep, but the chances of that are low and outweigh the higher risk that either I or someone I care about, know or interact with could or would catch it.

Response by A1C Paula Roblez made Aug 27 at 2021 6:17 PM

2021-08-27T18:17:05-04:00

I would not take the shot

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2021 6:57 PM

2021-08-27T18:57:57-04:00

That is a loaded question. I have gotten everything they threw at me over my 27-year career, never batted an eye. What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger lol

Response by SPC Cathy Goessman made Aug 27 at 2021 7:03 PM

2021-08-27T19:03:41-04:00

I got vaccinated back in April for my high risk family member and because it's the right thing to do. I will do everything I can to prevent my fellow Americans dying or being disabled from Covid side effects. That someone can be in the military and say they stand ready to defend their country but refuse to get a vaccine that defends people from dying is ridiculous.

The biggest danger in people continuing to be unvaccinated is that if the virus is allowed to continue mutating we could end up with a version that the current vaccines do nothing against. We'll be right back to day one with people dying by the thousands. Of course, vaccinated people can still get and spread the virus but it's a much much lower likelihood within a population that is also vaccinated.

To me it's sort of like wearing a seat belt. Are there situations where you are going to die anyway or where the seat belt could actually hurt you? Absolutely. But it lowers the odds significantly and the situations where it will hurt you are very rare.

Response by SGT Charles Bartell made Aug 27 at 2021 8:22 PM

2021-08-27T20:22:48-04:00

I will not get that vaccine. I do not trust it. I sure the Hell do not trust That jack ass Fouche. It is all about the power not the Since.
The government has said so many thing's about covid , And who and how people get Covid.
And how people can protect themselves.
Then their is my favorite one if you get the Vaccine you will not get sick.
That has been working real good for the people that received the Vaccine then got sick and, Those that have died after getting the vaccine.

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Aug 27 at 2021 8:41 PM

2021-08-27T20:41:24-04:00

I got my first shot 18 DEC 2020.

Response by SSgt Michael Anderson made Aug 27 at 2021 11:24 PM

2021-08-27T23:24:23-04:00

I received both doses of Moderna in March--with NO side effects! The emergency authorization by the FDA was all I needed to make the decision to get vaccinated. I believe in scientists, not politicians. When I look at the areas where the virus is running rampant, it is apparent that those are the areas where people are not getting vaccinated. I'm glad that I did!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 28 at 2021 2:09 AM

2021-08-28T02:09:09-04:00

Of course. Only a fool would not take it.

Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Aug 28 at 2021 9:38 AM

2021-08-28T09:38:43-04:00

I have never been against the vaccine...I just wanted more science on the long term effects...me and my wife are vaccinated but we did it out of much research and meditation...as far as the military goes if you are in uniform...it is simple...it is a readiness issue...you have to be healthy and ready to deploy at a moments notice...it is not as simple as an admin discharge...this is a lawful order...if you are eligible to separate or retire you can...if not and you refuse you can be court martialed and possibly receive a less than honorable on your way out...it isn't as simple to say that if I don't take it I can leave...nope there are consequences for that decision.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 28 at 2021 12:15 PM

2021-08-28T12:15:44-04:00

More than likely no. Had a bad experience back in the early 80's while serving in Germany. It seems that there was Swine Flu going around and it was mandated that all service members had to be inoculated. Essentially we were all marched to the Post Theater and given the shot. Everyone got sick for at least 3 days. You know it's bad when signs are posted asking if you're allergic to things like eggs.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 28 at 2021 12:25 PM

2021-08-28T12:25:58-04:00

Frankly, I got the Vaccine for the peace of mind.

Response by SGT Andrew Anderson made Aug 28 at 2021 1:30 PM

2021-08-28T13:30:27-04:00

I had no hesitation in taking the vaccine. Although there is a belief that the vaccine is something new, it is not. Coronaviruses have been around April 1930. Researchers and scientists have constantly been researching various vaccines to combat it ever since. The COVID 19 vaccine underwent testing among a large group of human volunteers, even more than a typical trial with over 30,000 to 60,000 people. So in my mind, it is a very safe and effective means of combating the COVID 19 virus. Every vaccine ever developed has had side effects, some people have adverse reactions, and so on. I look at the history of vaccines and in my mind the reason that life expectancy for men in the USA has gone from 50 years if you were born in 1900 to 80 years if you were born in 2020. Just a look back at history of vaccinations, one of the founding fathers, George Washington, in 1777 ordered all the troops to be inoculated against smallpox even though there was no presedent for doing so. With very few doctors and even fewer medical supplies, and on top of that, no experience, Washington conducted the first mass inoculation of an Army, in his mind smallpox would wipe out his army before the British would if he didn't do something, he was 100% correct.

Response by SPC Gerald Freed made Aug 28 at 2021 1:31 PM

2021-08-28T13:31:45-04:00

YES to protect others as well as me..

Response by MSgt John Taylor made Aug 28 at 2021 3:47 PM

2021-08-28T15:47:44-04:00

ICU's are filling up with the un-vax'd, now they're filling graves. I doubt that anyone gave an iota of thought to what was going into your arm in basic, why now?

Response by A1C Paula Roblez made Aug 29 at 2021 11:20 AM

2021-08-29T11:20:59-04:00

No I would not get that mess.

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Aug 29 at 2021 3:25 PM

2021-08-29T15:25:33-04:00

Of course, I want to live and have a normal life again!

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Aug 29 at 2021 6:48 PM

2021-08-29T18:48:49-04:00

It isn't what you want. In order to be deployable it is neccessary that every member of your unit be deployable. So you get where you are going and half the unit comes down with Covid. Now they need to replace your unit and get the sick out. Try thinking like a soldier.

Response by SP5 Dennis Dorsey made Aug 29 at 2021 7:30 PM

2021-08-29T19:30:40-04:00

I have received both shots as soon as they became available at the drug stores. (VA was overwhelmed) I also still wear my mask to help protect not only myself but others as well. For me, it is a health issue and not a political issue as it should be.

Response by SFC James Hudgers made Aug 30 at 2021 12:05 AM

2021-08-30T00:05:41-04:00

Religious exemptions

Response by LTC Anthony Monroe made Aug 30 at 2021 8:32 AM

2021-08-30T08:32:24-04:00

YES!!!! It was the only sensible thing to do to stop the spread of this disease as well as to orotect others, especially your loved ones!!

Response by Cpl George Matousek made Aug 30 at 2021 10:12 AM

2021-08-30T10:12:20-04:00

I would get the vaccine

Response by MSgt Gloria Vance made Aug 30 at 2021 10:20 AM

2021-08-30T10:20:54-04:00

Not an anti vaxxer as I have always had all my shots. I am an anti COVID vaccine. It is still in trials for safety and efficacy until May 2023. Not sure how FDA approved it without these mandatory trials. The vaccine may make you sick or give you long term disabilities. I also believe in “Freedom of choice”. With that freedom comes consequences. I would probably be discharged.

Read an article this morning that those being discharged are being given a dishonourable…. Is that too heavy handed? When did we become a nation of chickens or that any kind of noncompliance is seen As INTOLERABLE and must be exterminated by any means.

Also read this AM of a mother who had her parental rights taken from her and of a man jailed because they have not been vaccinated.

I read an article this morning that those in service are requesting waivers. Those waivers are being denied with no response or ability to appeal. This isn’t the military I retired from. The Biden WH, CDC and WHO do not make the vaccine mandatory for their personnel! Now the medical facilities want to deny medical care for the unvaccinated.

I need to stop reading…. LOL

Discrimination in any form is wrong. Change the word unvaccinated to “obese people”, “brown eyed” or “mentally challenged” and tell me it’s not discriminatory!!

Response by GySgt Kenneth Pepper made Aug 30 at 2021 10:49 AM

2021-08-30T10:49:03-04:00

I chose to be vaccinated when they first became available. Since then I am certain I have been exposed on numerous occasions. I either fought it off without much effort or the vaccine simply repelled it. I have had no other side effects.
Now, vaccination was my choice. I made that choice based on my own research, prayer and consulting with family and trusted friends.
It is my wish that everyone would get vaccinated. I think it is the shortest path out of this nightmare. There may be long term effects that we are unaware of, but I accept that for myself.
I also took the laundry list of every vaccine in the military between 1987 & 2008.
I'm not sure why this one is met with such skepticism, but I think it is largely due to the availability of information, good and bad.

Response by SSG John Jensen made Aug 30 at 2021 12:06 PM

2021-08-30T12:06:41-04:00

If I lived in the appropriate large city, I would have volunteered for the drug experiments

Response by CDR Theresa Everest made Aug 31 at 2021 12:31 AM

2021-08-31T00:31:14-04:00

Nope. Not until they figure out how to make a vaccine that prevents Covid19 and not a “vaccine” that helps prevent worse symptoms but doesn’t prevent you from getting the virus itself. I was reading a study from India and they actually used a killed Covid19 virus to create their vaccine and they have had high success without the crazy side effects of the mRNA jabs. And I want them to go through the regular trial phases without cutting corners.

Response by SFC Bill Kurtz made Aug 31 at 2021 5:15 AM

2021-08-31T05:15:03-04:00

The government orders you to take the shot, suck it up buttercup or get the hell out.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 31 at 2021 7:10 PM

2021-08-31T19:10:08-04:00

Let's not forget the Gamma globulin shot. Had I not had a good SGT that said go run it off, I think that one was the worst lol

Response by SFC Don Ward made Aug 31 at 2021 9:32 PM

2021-08-31T21:32:53-04:00

One thing we don't hear about is natural immunity. I had covid in Novemeber and pronounced to have immunity through it. Why should i get a vaccine that they keep saying won't necessarily keep you from getting it, won't keep you from spreading it, may die when receiving it?

Response by SFC Don Ward made Aug 31 at 2021 11:45 PM

2021-08-31T23:45:51-04:00

So, if I am to get the vaccine to protect others, it would seem logical that everyone should be required to purchase a firearm and get a concealed carry permit in which to protect myself and others around from criminals who carry firearms?

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 1 at 2021 2:17 AM

2021-09-01T02:17:48-04:00

In boot camp I didn't want the flu shot (got 2) or the norovirus one. I didn't have the choice, they decided based on what's out there the most for mission readiness. Our personal choices matter less in the great picture of it all. If they say "bunch of Coronavirus, bunch of flu, alright give me your arm." Wth you going to do? I've had so many vaccines at this point and I'm okay.

Response by PFC Andrew "Tommy" M. made Sep 6 at 2021 5:03 PM

2021-09-06T17:03:18-04:00

I also am not vaccinated, and get flack from some of my family as well as being hounded by the VA, but I am not really wanting to be a part of this large scale study. The fact that this is a investigation vaccine is always conveniently left out when it is being promoted in every media source.

FDA is issuing this guidance to provide sponsors of requests for Emergency Use Authorization
(EUA) for COVID-19 vaccines with recommendations regarding the data and information needed to
support the issuance of an EUA under section 564 of the FD&C Act (21 U.S.C. 360bbb-3) for an
investigational vaccine to prevent COVID-19 for the duration of the COVID-19 public health
emergency. This document supersedes the guidance of the same title issued in February 2021 (which
superseded the guidance of the same title issued October 2020).

This is directly from the FDA.gov site.
https://www.fda.gov/media/142749/download

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Response by CPL Adam Schoenwald made Sep 7 at 2021 1:00 PM

2021-09-07T13:00:15-04:00

I'm not Anti-Vax, and I am fully Vaccinated, and Have a ton of other crap shot in me like anthrax. Here is the thing with Covid-19. If I was in and had the choice I would sit down with my chain of command and truly have a heart to heart on the matter. It easy to be caught up on the hype. I would go directly from the SCIENCE. But that's not all. Mission success also plays an important part. If me not getting the Jab would cause undo problems for moral in my squad or unit, that could affect the mission I would take the jab because the mission comes first.

Response by PFC Andrew "Tommy" M. made Sep 8 at 2021 2:25 AM

2021-09-08T02:25:15-04:00

Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Response by SSG John Jensen made Sep 10 at 2021 10:47 PM

2021-09-10T22:47:57-04:00

My mother is in an Alzheimer's home - someone on the staff who was UN-vaccinated took the virus in side and now 15 residents (includingMom) are sick and 4 have died.My Aunt and my Brother can't get a clear picture of Mom's status - corporate has moved in people and Lawyers, and apparently there is a class action lawsuit in the works. It was a lovely home, and Mom was really happy there. I just a little ticked that someone who worked in an Alzheimer's home decided that they were too important to get the vaccine. I got the jab as soon as I could (Thank You VA)

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 12 at 2021 11:33 AM

2021-09-12T11:33:40-04:00

I am vaccinated but full understand why someone may be opposed. I got vaccinated because I was told it would protect me from getting COVID. I am not sure mandatory vaccination now is correct.

Response by CDR Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 12 at 2021 12:41 PM

2021-09-12T12:41:35-04:00

The amount of misinformation out there is astounding. You are not protecting your shipmate or anyone else by getting the vaccine… only affording yourself a lesser course. Let me break it down for you from a physician’s perspective:

-The COVID mortality rate for most demographics is in the 1% or less range.
-Natural immunity is far superior to “vaccine” disease attenuation. T-cell (long term) immunity can be tested, but the test is still being treated as experimental and is largely unexercised.
-The “vaccines” do NOT protect you from contracting or spreading COVID.
-The “vaccines” DO increase asymptomatic spread.
-The “vaccines” DO cause mutations such as delta, lambda, mu, etc.
-The medical establishment has known of and largely ignored treatments that have proven effective; to include monoclonal antibodies which are only now being offered in the outpatient setting, early in disease as they ought to have been for over 12 months since PROVEN effective (a la President Trump and his short “hospitalization”).
-The mRNA “vaccines” are not vaccines in the traditional sense; previous experiments were aborted because they were killing the trial animals.
-The “vaccines” were brought to market under the EUA, which was absolutely appropriate to at least try to protect the most vulnerable (elderly, comorbidities, etc). HOWEVER, in doing so, they lumped Phase 1 and Phase 2 together, skipping animal trials and thereby making the human subjects the test animals.
-The FDA “approved” the Pfizer “vaccine” ignoring the tenets of bringing a drug to market. Trials are not complete, safety is UNKNOWN, and efficacy is limited to affording the recipient an attenuated disease course, NOT protection. AT WHAT PERSONAL HEALTH COST? We simply don’t know!
-As an unvaccinated person, I am the safest person to be around those unable to be vaccinated as I am not shedding unknown particles and if I were to have the disease, I would be symptomatic and therefore self isolated. If I were vaccinated, I could be unwittingly exposing everyone around me with God knows what!
-The vaccinated are a greater risk to me than I am to them.
-The vaccinated are ONLY protecting themselves from a severe disease course… while causing mutations, risking asymptomatic spread, and risking their future health by allowing themselves to be a human lab rat in the world’s largest in vivo drug trial in history. Hitler, eat your heart out.

Response by MSG Randall Rankin made Sep 13 at 2021 7:16 AM

2021-09-13T07:16:22-04:00

They gave us a bunch of junk just prior to and during DS/DS. Conveniently none of it got recorded in our shot or medical records. The Army used me as a guinea pig once, they don't get a second try. OBTW, STILL fighting the VA over health issues from that little trip....

Response by SFC Randy Hellenbrand made Sep 13 at 2021 12:07 PM

2021-09-13T12:07:52-04:00

Yes!!!!!!! I owe it to my fellow soldiers, my countrymen, and to our military to deployable. But then again, I don't support insurrectionists traitors.

Response by SFC Randy Hellenbrand made Sep 13 at 2021 12:08 PM

2021-09-13T12:08:49-04:00

Well, I hope you don't kill your kids, but I won't shed a tear if you get it and croak as you brought it on yourself.

Response by SCPO Edward Westerdahl made Sep 13 at 2021 12:19 PM

2021-09-13T12:19:50-04:00

Damn Straight. I got the two shots for my brand as soon as I could. I had all kinds of shots in the Navy and lots of shots since for overseas travel to Isreal, Australia, Thailand, and China. I can not understand anyone NOT getting the vaccine for the disease that has killed more than 500,000 Americans.

Response by SrA James Cannon made Sep 14 at 2021 2:20 PM

2021-09-14T14:20:37-04:00

I thought I read that the Pentagon was allowing some religious and medical exemptions from the Covid vaccines is that not the case?

Response by Col Thomas Cropper made Sep 14 at 2021 2:57 PM

2021-09-14T14:57:00-04:00

Yes. It is a safe and effective vaccine. Millions of people in the US have taken the vaccine and are much safer as a result.

Response by CPO Arthur Weinberger made Sep 15 at 2021 11:22 AM

2021-09-15T11:22:23-04:00

Sgt., one would think if a vaccine is proven to save lives and reduce your chances of becoming ill and spreading a virus; you would welcome the vaccine! Empirical studies have shown repeatedly its effactiveness.

Response by MCPO Hilary Kunz made Sep 15 at 2021 11:44 AM

2021-09-15T11:44:34-04:00

I’m a bit older than some here, my SC health problems have had a chance to simmer a while, so I checked off three of their boxes related to “underlying conditions”. I got vaccinated as soon as it came out, seemed a no-brainer for me personally. I have a wife and son that I want to be with.
When I was in, motivations were different. I was there to do a job, and I needed to be a full up round. There were people who didn’t want to get the shots, we discharged them, their choice. If you can’t fight, in every sense of the word, then you have to go home. Civilians have the choice, and don’t “have” to get the shots.

Response by PO2 Christina "Jian" Phillips made Sep 15 at 2021 3:13 PM

2021-09-15T15:13:20-04:00

I am similar in that I am not Anti-Vax but have not gotten vaccine. I don't want to be a guinea pig. I got sick every single time I got flu shot and as civilian I haven't gotten flu shot and rarely get the flu. The mutations make it a game of playing whack a mole with these vaccines which considering they have a booster less than 9 months after vaccines started shows just how many moles there are to whack. I'd rather wait until this vaccine has been vetted and has longer than 2 years to show efficacy. I know many who have had severe complications from any of the currently available shots and I am very skeptical. Science is based in observation and I observe that at current risk outweighs the benefit. If I was in service or not I'd make the same choice.

Response by Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis made Sep 15 at 2021 4:52 PM

2021-09-15T16:52:44-04:00

I was an eager first recipient; my wife, also and we're both Retired. She was idly looking for vaccination sites and lucked into one, albeit a cross town (I mean Los Angeles, so not just "around the corner") trip. We ended up having a nice stroll and seeing a mall we've never seen before. All in all, an nice day trip and got vaccinated at a well-managed site; got us in and out in half an hour.

I've gotten flu shots, polio vaccinations, and shots for all sorts of stuff. It's there to help us stay healthy and keep the nasties from revenging our bodies. If you don't want a vaccine then, by all means, don't get one. But don't then complain about how sick you've gotten, or how sick the person to whom you've transmitted it has become. I know that even inoculated people can pass the virus on, but there is a difference.

Response by SrA Dane Noecker made Sep 16 at 2021 1:21 PM

2021-09-16T13:21:13-04:00

If I was still in, most likely. I was an AF Public Health technician during the years that they were first making the anthrax vaccine mandatory, and I remember many individuals refusing the vac, making them non-deployable, thus no longer of any value to the Service.
I did chose to get vaccinated because of the volunteer work that I perform, but as a civilian, I believe that something like this should not be mandated, there are many valid reasons to not get this vaccine. However, I also believe that when you signed that line at the bottom of that enlistment contract, you gave of your personal rights to choice and should do what the Service feels maintains your value to them.

Response by CPO Arthur Weinberger made Sep 21 at 2021 5:29 PM

2021-09-21T17:29:48-04:00

If something is proven to greatly reduce my chanches of dying or getting sick; I would get the vaccine. When I was on active duty I obeyed all rules, regulations and orders without question. I took an oath to do so and I did.

Response by SFC Joe Maynard made Sep 23 at 2021 9:36 AM

2021-09-23T09:36:54-04:00

I retired in 1994 so am a bit older. Having had vaccinations since the late 50’s without any known negative affects fear of the future is not a factor. I chose to get Moderna vaccinations simply because of its efficacy against hospitalization and/ or dying! Made it this long and didn’t want COVID to take me out. ( I did have COVID between vaccinations and it was a home event only.)

Everyone can choose. I choose to delay dying if at all possible.

Response by SSG Dave Johnston made Sep 23 at 2021 11:45 PM

2021-09-23T23:45:29-04:00

This ain't right at all:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/biden-admin-wants-dishonorable-discharge-for-vaccine-refusers?utm_source=theblaze-7DayTrendingTest&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The%20Blaze%20PM%20Trending%202021-09-23&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%207%20Day%20Engagement
WTF has the DOD and all its subordinate Depts. become? Couldn't DOD just ask Ft Detrick labs for a better answer to the virus than what the CDC has been putting out???

Biden admin opposes move to give honorable discharge to troops who refuse the COVID-19 vaccine,...

The Biden administration thinks U.S. service members who refuse to comply with the military's COVID-19 vaccine mandate should be subjected to the potential of a dishonorable discharge.What are the details?In a statement issued Tuesday, the White House forcefully rejected a provision in the National ...

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Oct 29 at 2021 8:21 PM

2021-10-29T20:21:39-04:00

Yes. I will weigh the facts vs assumptions.

Response by CDR Theresa Everest made Oct 29 at 2021 10:55 PM

2021-10-29T22:55:54-04:00

That’s a tough one. I’m glad that I was able to retire from the Navy before all of this happened. I’m not anti-vax but I’m medical so I really read all of the research and I’m trusting my immune system to keep me healthy. I feel sad and betrayed in a way by the military and the VA for mandating this for all service members and VA workers. I won’t be practicing anymore because I refuse to comply.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 25 at 2021 7:44 PM

2021-11-25T19:44:25-05:00

They want to get rid of anyone who questions authority. why else would they mandate a segment of the population who arent at risk, get an experimental vaccine.

The Nuremberg commission was supposed to make sure medical experimentation never happened again. But here we are once again...using cohesion either in the military or civilian sectors of losing your job if you dont take the "vaccine", which is still EUA only.

Unless its voluntary, it's called cohersion.

Frightening isnt it....but what's more frightening is that the amount of people who blindly have jumped into the fire from the pan.

I think 13 total service members have died from covid......so it makes you think, why are they forcing this on everyone.....

Response by SGT Steven Wade made Nov 25 at 2021 11:09 PM

2021-11-25T23:09:19-05:00

yep and already have it if the govt determined it was ok to give the troops and vets the why not.

Response by PO2 Joan MacNeill made Nov 26 at 2021 11:21 PM

2021-11-26T23:21:10-05:00

Not only yes, but hell, yes!

Response by SGT Charles Bartell made Nov 28 at 2021 2:22 PM

2021-11-28T14:22:49-05:00

It is funny how all the people that are pro mandatory vaccine. Talk all kinds of crap people that have a diffrent view point on the Vaccines. Then Blocks them. Yes a real example to set.
Yes a lot of people have died from COVID-19, How ever ther is no proof any of them work. In any way.
None of them stop people from getting COVID-19, Nor does any of the Vaccines stop a vaccinated from spreading the COVID-19. People die from every day from one disease or anther every day.
That does not give any the right to say that if you do not get vaccinated that they dont care about others. Or for people that have lost family or friends to COVID-19 to life choice makers for every one else.
I am not anti vaccination. Ther is just not enough proof that any of them will help.
Just look at past vaccination's military member's were forced to get then had long term helth problems.
Last time I looked the Constitution was still in effect.
I know that there are some of you out there that does not matter.
It does, If we as FREE AMERICAN'S let this forced taking of your personal freedom's.
It is just one more step to taking all of them.
It does not matter witch political party you belong to you all need to think for your self.

Response by SSG Byron Hewett made Nov 28 at 2021 6:33 PM

2021-11-28T18:33:18-05:00

why not better than getting sick

Response by SPC Susie Hill made Dec 2 at 2021 12:47 AM

2021-12-02T00:47:22-05:00

I was subjected to many toxic chemicals while in the military and have had to deal with that since 1976. I can't imagine that the Covid vac can do anymore harm than what I have already.

Response by SSG Gina Starbuck made Dec 17 at 2021 2:14 PM

2021-12-17T14:14:16-05:00

Effectiveness diminishes overtime and I think the science isn't fully tested but I took my shots and got my booster. The order is Not unlawful while maybe ill-advised, but it is an order.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 22 at 2021 10:27 AM

2021-12-22T10:27:33-05:00

Yes, I see it no different than being mandated to take the smallpox/anthrax/flue shot… I took all of those vaccines while I was in the army. I wasn’t thrilled about it, but in the end it was a small price to pay to serve this country.

Response by SPC Will Thorson made Dec 23 at 2021 3:01 PM

2021-12-23T15:01:31-05:00

Of course i would. I think you are a complete moron to not get it. 800,000 fellow Americans are dead and counting. The vaccines are some if the safest vaccines ever made. The reason that it was made quicker was that covid is a close "cousin" to the flu. The basic vaccine was already there. Add in an influx of billions of dollars, and that's why it came out fast. The sad fact is you get all these buffoons who know nothing about infectious diseases and vaccines writing like they are the experts. Is it that hard to do your own research and cross reference? The one big one people bitch about are blood clots. 15 out of 78 million and not one person died. And all of the 15 had underlying medical conditions. Not one person has died from getting the infection that has had the vaccine. Does the vaccines stop you from getting covid? Of course not. Lol. But it stops you from getting it so bad you end up in ICU. Look at the stats of those getting sick enough to end up in an ICU and or dying from it and the numbers don't lie. 85% of those in ICU are unvaccinated. 90% of those that die are unvaccinated. The 10% of those that got the vaccine that died had underlying conditions that caused the deaths. As for me? I got covid when it first came out. I was sick for a month. Miserable. I was on the verge of going to the hospital but my condition was just under the numbers to go. And what did I get out of having covid? Scarred lungs, asthma, almost constantly coughing, and fatigue. But yeah. Go ahead and and pretend it won't get you. That it is all fake or not worth it. Trust me. It is. And I'll add this. Every single soldier, marine and veteran. We all went to basic training and stood in line and got at least a dozen vaccines and not ONE of you said no. Every single time you deployed, you got even more vaccines and I bet not ONE of you asked what is was or what was in it. But now that we have one of the safest vaccines we have ever had, after 800,000 dead, millions sick, NOW you all want to throw a tantrum? This is the hill you literally want to die on? Talk about having your priorities in a mess. Take it from someone who has crappy side effects from actually getting covid. GET THE DAMN SHOT!! Don't be a ignorant jackass who thinks he knows more than the experts do.

Response by CAPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 25 at 2021 3:19 PM

2021-12-25T15:19:22-05:00

Yep. Got vaccinated 8 months before it was mandatory. I figured it would either kill me, protect me, or give me superpowers. I’m glad to say no issues yet and as a bonus I have killer 5G reception.

Response by SMSgt Ed W. made Dec 25 at 2021 5:00 PM

2021-12-25T17:00:58-05:00

Yes, I have had vaccinations against many diseases during my childhood and adult life. When I was in grade school I remember getting vaccinated against Polio then many time later, including basic training, then every year annual boosters of one type or another. Besides, now at 80 I still get all the vaccinations that help me stay healthy.

Response by SPC Dawn Appelberg (Johnson) made Dec 25 at 2021 9:34 PM

2021-12-25T21:34:37-05:00

I know good men and women who have been relieved of their positions for refusing to be guinea pigs. I am all for military and UCMJ - however mandating medical procedures that may or may not hurt you I firmly believe are unlawful orders. NO soldier should have to vaccinate period. I for one am vaccine injured because of over vaccination in the military.

Response by SPC Lyle Montgomery made Dec 26 at 2021 2:41 PM

2021-12-26T14:41:29-05:00

Hell no! Thank God that I'm no longer in the military. I really can't say what I would if I would do if I was in and working tward retirement, but as a civilian I would Quit and find another job. It would be easier for me than some because I worked union construction all my life. We had a hiring hall and there were many job oppurtunitys out there. A job is not as imporntant as your health It should a personal choice and not be mandated.and I don't believe that the curent vacine is worth a damn. It should be a personl Choice and not be mandated.I don't care if people choose to get the shot and if they choose not to. It's their choice and not that wannabee dictator Biden.

Response by Cpl Bernard Bates made Dec 30 at 2021 11:42 PM

2021-12-30T23:42:16-05:00

When I went to Vietnam in 65 we got 6 shots 3 in each arm at the same time. Nobody complained. And we got 2 more shots after we got over there. I don't understand why persons refuse to get the Vaccine. Its already proven to work. The Government is trying to keep people from dying. Whats so bad about that. My daughter works in a big hospital They are overwhelmed with covid 19 patients most of them have never been vaccinated. Another thing I don't think is right. is that people who refuse to get vaccinated will get an honorable discharge. That is wrong they are refusing a direct order. If you want to get out of the service early don't get the shots is what it amounts to. The persons who refuse to get vaccinated should get a General discharge. Disagree if you want but thats how I feel.

Response by PO1 Lee Garrison made Dec 31 at 2021 2:43 PM

2021-12-31T14:43:26-05:00

Nope, it isn’t a cure. You can still catch and spread it.

Thankfully i would have been at HYT had i made Chief when this went down…. I would have retired

Response by TSgt John Brody made Jan 1 at 2022 11:16 AM

2022-01-01T11:16:10-05:00

Nope. I wouldn't get it.
Why risk being a guinea pig / beta tester?

Response by TSgt John Brody made Jan 3 at 2022 10:08 AM

2022-01-03T10:08:27-05:00

If the vaccine actually worked, would we have this headline?
U.S. Defense Secretary Austin tests positive for COVID-19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVygmnr8Wb0

U.S. Defense Secretary Austin tests positive for COVID-19

U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said he tested positive for COVID-19 with mild symptoms and would retain all authority in running his department as he qu...

Response by TSgt John Brody made Jan 3 at 2022 10:14 AM

2022-01-03T10:14:08-05:00

Tons of heartbreaking negative side effects are due to the jab.
"The testimonies project the movie" is here on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4BpEr8gztU&t=5s

The testimonies project the movie

To watch all testimonies and for more information, please go to The Testimonies Project's website:https://www.vaxtestimonies.org/en

Response by TSgt John Brody made Jan 3 at 2022 7:57 PM

2022-01-03T19:57:32-05:00

"New CDC COVID-19 Isolation Guidelines Still Up for Debate Among Experts"
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/965907
Seems the CDC is changing directions YET AGAIN. Are they really trustworthy?

New CDC COVID-19 Guidelines Still Up for Debate Among Experts

The new CDC guidelines about COVID-19 isolation times are still a hot topic of debate among health experts, with strong opinions on both sides.

Response by TSgt John Brody made Jan 3 at 2022 8:01 PM

2022-01-03T20:01:28-05:00

For you chicken littles on the left that virtue signal with mask wearing...
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/24/health/cloth-mask-omicron-variant-wellness/index.html

"Cloth masks are little more than facial decorations. There's no place for them in light of Omicron," said CNN Medical Analyst Dr. Leana Wen, an emergency physician and visiting professor of health policy and management at the George Washington University Milken Institute School of Public Health, on CNN Newsroom Tuesday.

Why you should upgrade your mask as the Omicron variant spreads

As the Omicron variant spreads, it's time to upgrade from your cloth face masks. Experts explain why medical-grade masks -- such as surgical/disposable masks and N95 and KN95 respirators -- are better options now and what people should do with the cloth masks they already have.

Response by TSgt John Brody made Jan 5 at 2022 1:26 PM

2022-01-05T13:26:30-05:00

Vitamin D likely helps reduce the chance of getting not just the seasonal flu, but kung flu also.
"Vitamin D and Its Potential Benefit for the COVID-19 Pandemic"
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33744444/

Vitamin D and Its Potential Benefit for the COVID-19 Pandemic - PubMed

Vitamin D is known not only for its importance for bone health but also for its biologic activities on many other organ systems. This is due to the presence of the vitamin D receptor in various types of cells and tissues, including the skin, skeletal muscle, adipose tissue, endocrine pancreas, immun …

Response by MSG David Lambert made Jan 6 at 2022 9:49 AM

2022-01-06T09:49:00-05:00

I am 70 with a laundry list of health issues. That disqualifies me from addressing your specific situation and beliefs. All I can do is relate to you my personal experiences having received all three shots (so far). I received the Moderna vaccine, the first shot was as any flu shot symptoms would be. Sore arm for a few days with tolerable head ache . The second shot was easier on the arm but after a week I developed what is called orthostatic hypotension and had to be hospitalized for 5 days. This condition is described as low blood pressure . When you stand or sit up blood pressure drops dramatically . That renders you susceptible to falling and being light headed as well as exhausted to the point of being incapable of normal functioning . Like I said I have a laundry list of conditions which come with their own cocktails of meds. While in the hospital at the time there was a team of doctors including a doctor of pharmacology trying to figure out my symptoms. They failed to mail it to any specific medical reason . The only thing different in my routine was the Covid shots. I ended up being afflicted with low blood pressure for the following 3 months which meant I was bed ridden at home. I still have wild swing in blood pressure but about 5 days out of 7, I’m in the low range of normal and can function
Since getting the shots, I can tell you for me they did keep me from contracting the symptoms of Covid even after being exposed to it in close proximity twice. My granddaughter was positive with symptoms in September and again with positive symptoms within the last two weeks together with her mother and brother. They all live with me and none of them got the shots. So, for me the shots worked as intended.

I’m not young or in shape like you all are. And fully retired. The long recovery from the side effects didn’t impact anyone but me.

You have my story so decide for yourself based on your situation .

Response by PO2 Tim Hawks made Jan 14 at 2022 11:19 AM

2022-01-14T11:19:35-05:00

None of the vaccines given for COVID right now are approved by the FDA. They still fall under the EUA

Response by PO2 Tim Hawks made Jan 14 at 2022 11:25 AM

2022-01-14T11:25:30-05:00

After reading the comments here please turn your TV’s off. WTF has happened to our military. For some of you if the government told you to go suck on a hollow point sadly you would.

Response by SPC Joel Quey made Jan 21 at 2022 1:16 PM

2022-01-21T13:16:22-05:00

I work in a hospital, and they require it, just like they require other vaccines. But even if they didn't, the data is overwhelmingly clear that it's safer to get vaccinated than to not get vaccinated.

Response by PO1 Sam Deel made Jan 25 at 2022 3:38 AM

2022-01-25T03:38:01-05:00

Brother, I fully support your decision. I was a Navy Airedale that had Missions that took me all over the world. I got juiced up and given pills a lot more than most Members get. I have not been sick at, baring the MRSA I had on my face, since early aught five. I just don't get sick. If I was still Active, I would have told them the "tank is full" and that I ain't taking no more. I don't live in fear that some 99% survivable rate illness is worth taking some experimental "trust us, it is safe" drug. Everyone remembers the bad anthrax and yellow fever vaccine reactions. One Shipmate was Discharged from the Navy Reserves for the medical problems caused be her anthrax vaccine interaction. I would have Respectfully refused to the point of Court Martial. Later on, the VA would use me as a guinea pig for some new drug that was just approved for human trials. I ended up dead 6 days later, having to be revived twice from arrested breathing and heartbeat.

Response by Cpl Henry E Busby made Jan 25 at 2022 12:56 PM

2022-01-25T12:56:37-05:00

I for one don't understand all the fuss. At 5 years of age I was "mandated" to get vaccinated or I could not have enrolled in school. I don't even remember how many shots I received going into service, not to count the ones I took before being deployed. Plus, I get a flu shot every year and I have gotten one this year along with my vaccination and booster. And yet here I am still active and for the most part feeling great. But to each his own I guess, yet I don't remember in my time of service, anyone questioning basic orders like "REPORT TO SICK CALL!"

Response by GySgt Jack Wallace made Jan 25 at 2022 8:38 PM

2022-01-25T20:38:55-05:00

Yes, I would have. Note, Before I retired from Law Enforcement ,I got both of my shots ASAP.

Response by MSG David Lambert made Jan 26 at 2022 11:10 AM

2022-01-26T11:10:05-05:00

I’m in the demographic targeted for the shots and booster. Over 70 and a laundry list of co morbidities. My daughter and two teen grandkids live with me who have chosen to not be vaxed. Twice catching and exposing me to direct contact with Covid. The shots and booster worked for me. I have not to date caught nor presented with any symptoms, so I support both the vaccines and individual choice .

Response by SSgt Tracy Kawasaki made Jan 26 at 2022 10:40 PM

2022-01-26T22:40:25-05:00

You do have a choice, you can take the vaccine or you can be discharged. Choices come with consequences either way.

Response by LTC Ken Bowers made Jan 28 at 2022 2:44 PM

2022-01-28T14:44:23-05:00

Yes for me and my family it was like getting the flu shot. Reduces your chances of catching the Wu Flu, and reduces the severity of the symptoms. I do not think the mandate is necessary. For service members I don't think it should have been mandatory. Too many negative affects for young healthy folks as a technically experimental drug. With all the folks being separated is not good for readiness. There are probably a few looking to ETS early.

Response by Cpl Mike Barilone made Jan 30 at 2022 4:44 PM

2022-01-30T16:44:20-05:00

The protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to take the protection that didn't protect the protected.

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2022 11:43 PM

2022-01-30T23:43:23-05:00

Absolutely not. It provides no benefit to young healthy people and the risks far outweigh the rewards.

Response by CH (MAJ) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 2 at 2022 8:03 AM

2022-02-02T08:03:02-05:00

I am not ani-vax but am not vaccinated either. I had COVID in October but the Army does not recognize COVID recovered immunity, which from a health perspective I find startling. Nevertheless, I am not vaccinated with the current Vaccinations offered by the Army due to religious concerns surrounding these Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson and Johnson vaccines. With those concerns still operative, no, I would not have been vaccinated even if the DoD had not mandated. If soldier health and mission effectiveness are the upper most concerns for the mandate, then natural COVID immunity should be recognized by the US as all countries in Europe currently do.

Response by Sgt Neil Carroll made Feb 4 at 2022 12:20 PM

2022-02-04T12:20:22-05:00

For example, there are the after effects of getting wounded.

We enlist knowing that could happen so yes, I would not have hestitated to get vaccinated.

Are we going to treat military vaccination programs like a buffet?

I'll take this one, but not that one.

Yes, I'll take that one too. No, not that one either. etc.

Response by PO1 Lee Garrison made Feb 4 at 2022 3:55 PM

2022-02-04T15:55:58-05:00

Nope

Response by ENS Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2022 9:56 PM

2022-02-09T21:56:48-05:00

A number of people in these comments clearly don’t understand science and/or don’t give a damn about being a responsible adult. The information has been out there for over a year now and had been available for at least 6 months at the time of this post, so at this point I assume it must be willful ignorance.

Response by COL Robert Gilbert made Feb 19 at 2022 8:47 PM

2022-02-19T20:47:09-05:00

First of all, yes I would have gotten any of the shots mandated by the military, when I was serving. I have received all 3 shots, for Covid, as a Army retiree. I retired from the Army, after 34 years in the military. I also have 3 full books of shot records for all the different shots that I received in the Army. I consider the mandated shots to be appropriate to ensure the safety and well being of those in the military. Additionally it necessary to ensure the readiness of all military units to enable them to deploy throughout the world.
As they say, Your Are In The Army Now. You gave up many of your civilian rights when you signed your enlistment papers. You were not drafted. You can say all you want to about me having a Army mentality. However, you are the ones who volunteered to give up many of your civilian rights and opted for the military way of life and were/are being given bonus/educations/and potential retirement.

Response by SFC Michael W. made Mar 11 at 2022 6:18 PM

2022-03-11T18:18:43-05:00

Yes, I would and I did.
Now, I can't say how much this vaccine will "protect" me, but I definitely see what happens to NOT having the vaccine...
I've taken many shots in the military for numerous reasons, some probably not completely protective as mentioned, but my question is this...is it REALLY worth ending your career over a vaccination?

Response by SGT(P) Jody Hall made Apr 5 at 2022 2:14 PM

2022-04-05T14:14:33-04:00

I was out after I got mine. I would have been happy to get mine on active duty. Happy to be able to go first.
Actually I wish I could have the one I took and the option to take another kind as well. I have lost now 3 friends age 40 to 48 from COVID. One was active duty.

It has been proven through history vaccinations save lives.
Polio and small pox were more controversial at the time.

Response by SCPO Lloyd Sikes made Apr 17 at 2023 5:03 PM

2023-04-17T17:03:01-04:00

I am long retired, and I got all shots plus booster. Have been around a lot of people who caught COVID, and the vast majority did not have the shots. Even with being vaxed I got COVID pneumonia-thankfully just 3 days then ok. I really cannot see the difference between the COVID shot and any of the others I received during my 22 years, and I had about all you can think of.
SCPO Sikes