SFC Private RallyPoint Member 5295963 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe there was or is a stipulation that allows you to retire but I would just retire at the rank of e7 with a retirement pay of my last 3 years. I did some research and couldn’t find the answer in black and white. I am going to ask my J1 about this but figured I would ask the community first. Thanks ahead of time for any responses. If you are selected for promotion to E-8 and still want to retire at 20, is that possible without completing the 3-year promotion obligation? 2019-12-01T18:36:35-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 5295963 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe there was or is a stipulation that allows you to retire but I would just retire at the rank of e7 with a retirement pay of my last 3 years. I did some research and couldn’t find the answer in black and white. I am going to ask my J1 about this but figured I would ask the community first. Thanks ahead of time for any responses. If you are selected for promotion to E-8 and still want to retire at 20, is that possible without completing the 3-year promotion obligation? 2019-12-01T18:36:35-05:00 2019-12-01T18:36:35-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 5296105 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes you can, but when you submit your retirement request HRC can just say no until you finish your three years. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 1 at 2019 7:18 PM 2019-12-01T19:18:05-05:00 2019-12-01T19:18:05-05:00 MSgt Michael Smith 5297588 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Retirement supersedes everything. Technically you can pin on E-8, sign the 3-year commitment, and file papers for retirement the day after you hit 20. Retirement voids all commitments, extensions, etc. As long as you are not on a deployment or a remote tour, you can retire ANY time after 20 years. But you won&#39;t get the full pension for your new rank. High-3. Average your three last years annual salaries together. Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Dec 2 at 2019 8:46 AM 2019-12-02T08:46:16-05:00 2019-12-02T08:46:16-05:00 SGM Steve Wettstein 5297863 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You can pin MSG/1SG, but if you do not comlete the service obligation, and are allowed to retire, your retire paygrade will be E-7. Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Dec 2 at 2019 9:50 AM 2019-12-02T09:50:31-05:00 2019-12-02T09:50:31-05:00 SFC Michael Hasbun 5298019 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you want to retire as an E7, sure... Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Dec 2 at 2019 10:31 AM 2019-12-02T10:31:50-05:00 2019-12-02T10:31:50-05:00 SGM Bill Frazer 5299909 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Look you want the rank/money then you do the added time. Don&#39;t want, it , sign a state and put in your papers. Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Dec 2 at 2019 9:27 PM 2019-12-02T21:27:32-05:00 2019-12-02T21:27:32-05:00 2019-12-01T18:36:35-05:00