If you are selected for promotion to E-8 and still want to retire at 20, is that possible without completing the 3-year promotion obligation? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/if-you-are-selected-for-promotion-to-e-8-and-still-want-to-retire-at-20-is-that-possible-without-completing-the-3-year-promotion-obligation <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe there was or is a stipulation that allows you to retire but I would just retire at the rank of e7 with a retirement pay of my last 3 years. I did some research and couldn’t find the answer in black and white. I am going to ask my J1 about this but figured I would ask the community first. Thanks ahead of time for any responses. Sun, 01 Dec 2019 18:36:35 -0500 If you are selected for promotion to E-8 and still want to retire at 20, is that possible without completing the 3-year promotion obligation? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/if-you-are-selected-for-promotion-to-e-8-and-still-want-to-retire-at-20-is-that-possible-without-completing-the-3-year-promotion-obligation <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe there was or is a stipulation that allows you to retire but I would just retire at the rank of e7 with a retirement pay of my last 3 years. I did some research and couldn’t find the answer in black and white. I am going to ask my J1 about this but figured I would ask the community first. Thanks ahead of time for any responses. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Sun, 01 Dec 2019 18:36:35 -0500 2019-12-01T18:36:35-05:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 1 at 2019 7:18 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/if-you-are-selected-for-promotion-to-e-8-and-still-want-to-retire-at-20-is-that-possible-without-completing-the-3-year-promotion-obligation?n=5296105&urlhash=5296105 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes you can, but when you submit your retirement request HRC can just say no until you finish your three years. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Sun, 01 Dec 2019 19:18:05 -0500 2019-12-01T19:18:05-05:00 Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Dec 2 at 2019 8:46 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/if-you-are-selected-for-promotion-to-e-8-and-still-want-to-retire-at-20-is-that-possible-without-completing-the-3-year-promotion-obligation?n=5297588&urlhash=5297588 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Retirement supersedes everything. Technically you can pin on E-8, sign the 3-year commitment, and file papers for retirement the day after you hit 20. Retirement voids all commitments, extensions, etc. As long as you are not on a deployment or a remote tour, you can retire ANY time after 20 years. But you won&#39;t get the full pension for your new rank. High-3. Average your three last years annual salaries together. MSgt Michael Smith Mon, 02 Dec 2019 08:46:16 -0500 2019-12-02T08:46:16-05:00 Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Dec 2 at 2019 9:50 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/if-you-are-selected-for-promotion-to-e-8-and-still-want-to-retire-at-20-is-that-possible-without-completing-the-3-year-promotion-obligation?n=5297863&urlhash=5297863 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You can pin MSG/1SG, but if you do not comlete the service obligation, and are allowed to retire, your retire paygrade will be E-7. SGM Steve Wettstein Mon, 02 Dec 2019 09:50:31 -0500 2019-12-02T09:50:31-05:00 Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Dec 2 at 2019 10:31 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/if-you-are-selected-for-promotion-to-e-8-and-still-want-to-retire-at-20-is-that-possible-without-completing-the-3-year-promotion-obligation?n=5298019&urlhash=5298019 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you want to retire as an E7, sure... SFC Michael Hasbun Mon, 02 Dec 2019 10:31:50 -0500 2019-12-02T10:31:50-05:00 Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Dec 2 at 2019 9:27 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/if-you-are-selected-for-promotion-to-e-8-and-still-want-to-retire-at-20-is-that-possible-without-completing-the-3-year-promotion-obligation?n=5299909&urlhash=5299909 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Look you want the rank/money then you do the added time. Don&#39;t want, it , sign a state and put in your papers. SGM Bill Frazer Mon, 02 Dec 2019 21:27:32 -0500 2019-12-02T21:27:32-05:00 2019-12-01T18:36:35-05:00