If you know your soldier has a fever, do you still make him take a PT test? Even when soldier still has one on record last 6 months?

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 13:39:34 -0400

Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Oct 24 at 2019 1:40 PM

MSgt Michael Smith — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 13:40:58 -0400

How do you know they have a fever? Why are they not at sick call? If they have a fever they should be at sick call.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 24 at 2019 1:46 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 13:46:54 -0400

If I know for a fact the SM has a fever and hacking up lung s and other colored fluid....no APFT for that SM. But, that's just me.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 24 at 2019 2:16 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:16:13 -0400

If you “know” for a fact then no. Regulation says no where that you have to take an APFT every 6 months. It is a good rule to follow but not regulatory. Regulation states (unless it changed since I retired about a year ago) that a Soldier must take 2 record APFT per calendar year.

Boards and retention (for example) etc. have different standards for how old an APFT can be.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Oct 24 at 2019 2:18 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:18:37 -0400

A fever, probably not, coughing, hacking, chills, fever- all signs of a troop in trouble- send on sick call immediately. Its called caring for your people, study it!

Response by CSM Richard StCyr made Oct 24 at 2019 3:10 PM

CSM Richard StCyr — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:10:56 -0400

We had our own medics organic to the unit and at least one on site for APFT so when that sort of question would come up we'd have them triage the Soldier on the spot and send them to the Battalion PA. Cut down on malingerers and kept actual sick troops from getting hosed. I could see this being hard for a unit without organic medics.

If the Soldiers test was still within tolerance why take a chance of them failing or doing poorly. We conducted a record test every month to sweep up folks that were coming off profile recovery periods, those who may have PCS'd in with outdated APFT, or those who had failed and had become eligible for retest.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 24 at 2019 3:32 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:32:56 -0400

Yeah, send to the medic...then prob home, don't wanna make everyone sick.
No PT for them, you want them to recover, not get worse.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Oct 24 at 2019 3:41 PM

SSG Brian G. — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:41:45 -0400

No. You cannot. If you know your SM has a fever or is sick then you are negligent if you make them take the APFT. It states it clearly in the manual on taking an APFT if they are sick they are not to take it.

Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Oct 24 at 2019 6:17 PM

MAJ Javier Rivera — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 18:17:14 -0400

Send him to sick call immediately. If he’s sick - remember , at the end of the day we’re humans - he’ll get proper care. If no, then Article 115 ought to suffice.

Response by LtCol Robert Quinter made Oct 24 at 2019 9:24 PM

LtCol Robert Quinter — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 21:24:36 -0400

You aren't going to have an accurate measure of his fitness if the serviceman is sick. That is the reason for the test isn't it?

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 24 at 2019 10:01 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Oct 2019 22:01:45 -0400

I'd have the Soldier go on sick call. Let the Soldier get a profile excusing them, rather than taking it upon yourself and not having coverage for the Soldier, or yourself.

Response by SSG George Holtje made Oct 25 at 2019 9:17 AM

SSG George Holtje — Fri, 25 Oct 2019 09:17:42 -0400

Me? No. Higher than me? Yes. Many times. I argued until they put me at Parade Rest. Then the PA chewed me out when I took them to the Aid Station. Then I dimed out those who made me make the soldier do the APFT.
I’ve also been that soldier.

Response by CPL Gary Pifer made Oct 25 at 2019 12:33 PM

CPL Gary Pifer — Fri, 25 Oct 2019 12:33:13 -0400

Yeah and maybe you new name will be SGT.