Posted on Aug 31, 2021
In all honesty.. do y'all expect us to go back to Afghanistan and will it be worse this time than 2001?
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Just wanting to know y'all opinions
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Let's begin with the truth that no one wants to claim. We should never have left, not completely. 2,500 troops together with the contractors needed to help maintain weapons and equipment for the nascent Afghani military seemed to be just about right. It would have held the barbarians at bay while those favoring civilization had a chance to establish themselves. Yes, it's a mission that may have lasted for decades but that's a small price to pay for maintaining the infrastructure needed to monitor the bad guys and stage attacks as necessary to insure the peace and tranquility of the region, and to insure that it did not again become a launching pad for attacks on America.
That being said, let's deal with two facts. One, the war on terror isn't over. The mission hasn't been accomplished. We merely walked away from it. Keep in mind that no terrorist attacks have been launched on America since we arrived there. Does that mean there are no more terrorists? Go ask Britain, France, and Spain that question.
Two, the weakness demonstrated by this debacle has awakened other bad actors, namely China and Russia, to the opportunities that abound as America has surrendered the walls defending civilization. Taiwan should be feeling like Christian Scientists with appendicitis.
So, the question isn't "will we be going back" but rather "when will we be going back?"
The sooner the better.
We it be worse? Yes, the next time we will have a far harder time encouraging Afghanis to trust US...
That being said, let's deal with two facts. One, the war on terror isn't over. The mission hasn't been accomplished. We merely walked away from it. Keep in mind that no terrorist attacks have been launched on America since we arrived there. Does that mean there are no more terrorists? Go ask Britain, France, and Spain that question.
Two, the weakness demonstrated by this debacle has awakened other bad actors, namely China and Russia, to the opportunities that abound as America has surrendered the walls defending civilization. Taiwan should be feeling like Christian Scientists with appendicitis.
So, the question isn't "will we be going back" but rather "when will we be going back?"
The sooner the better.
We it be worse? Yes, the next time we will have a far harder time encouraging Afghanis to trust US...
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
The "war on terror" is just as nonsensical as the "war on drugs." You can't bomb an ideology out of existence. No one is ever going to stop terrorism. A "war" on terror is just a never ending war. We can't even stop it in our own country where domestic terror is the biggest threat to US national security than anything.
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CPT Jack Durish
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - Terrorists are like the grass. Just as your lawn needs periodic mowing, we will have to deal with terrorists for ever. And we should keep the lawn mower handy. It's really difficult to mow a lawn that you can't see.
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I do not, personally, believe we will be back in Afghanistan any time during a Biden Presidency, regardless of what happens in that region. Returning would be political suicide. Even a "retiring" Biden wouldn't go there because of the fallout for Harris and the party as a whole.
Beyond Biden, I still think it is unlikely, at least for a generation. Biden completely botched the pullout, but his statements regarding the REASON to pull out were accurate. Terrorism has metastasized. Afghanistan isn't even on the top 10 list. We have plenty of other shithole countries to send young men and women to die in, just to prove we can.
(Yes, it is a crass and cynical view. But prove me wrong...)
Beyond Biden, I still think it is unlikely, at least for a generation. Biden completely botched the pullout, but his statements regarding the REASON to pull out were accurate. Terrorism has metastasized. Afghanistan isn't even on the top 10 list. We have plenty of other shithole countries to send young men and women to die in, just to prove we can.
(Yes, it is a crass and cynical view. But prove me wrong...)
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No! But if it becomes necessary sometime in the future, it will be worse than 2001. Biden’s botched pullout armed the Taliban with more weapons than a lot of our allies have.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
You mean AFGHANISTAN losing control of the weapons and equipment THAT WE GAVE THEM?
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