Posted on Jul 24, 2017
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I know some states do not require a CCW Permit, I think this would infringe upon them (or not). Do you think it is a doable thing?
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
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SGT (Join to see) I am a big fan of constitutional carry. IF a person is not banned from legally owning a firearm, then how they choose to carry it is up to them. As with anything, it is the burden of the individual to be responsible. If the person carrying does so in an irresponsible way, then they deal with the consequences.
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SPC Daniel Joslin
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PO1 Robert Payne - Its also a money making thing for the states issuing them as permits are usually not free
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
PO3 Steven Sherrill
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SPC Daniel Joslin - Unless the state is a Constitutional Carry State, I don't know of any that issue permits without cost. So you are right it is a revenue stream for State coffers.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
PO3 Steven Sherrill
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PO1 Robert Payne - One of those false logic items used by ant gun people. "Make guns illegal, and gun violence will go away" Makes perfect sense most recreational drugs are illegal, and we all know that there is absolutely no drug use in the United States. There is no problem with drugs flowing across the border. Drug cartels have not turned Mexican border towns into war zones. All of that is a figment of our imagination. There are laws against it, so it doesn't happen. Oh wait, this is the real world where laws only influence the behavior of law abiding citizens, not the criminal element.
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MAJ Police Officer
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I think it can be done, each state regulates its Drivers Licensing program, but there is a law stating that all the other states must respect it (though there is some friction right now with the states that do not comply with the Real ID Act)... there is a Federal law that states that if you are a Peace Officer in one state that all other states will accept it (as in you can carry armed and if necessary effect an arrest)... I would think that a minimum standard could be set and then make sure that its enforced.

The problem will be with states like CA and NY where they have empowered the local sheriff and they demand that a person prove a "need" for one, not just the right to carry one.

I am definitely on board with a licensing program that includes a background check before you go an carry concealed.
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CW3 Harvey K.
CW3 Harvey K.
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MAJ (Join to see) - Yep. SF is a fantastic town, with what seems to be a majority of crazy citizens who elect crazy government. I really love the bay area, and spend lots of my time there. But the same school zone restrictions (and "forbidden areas") apply in NYC (I heard an out-of-state cop was arrested there on a school zone gun violation) or in Dallas, or Phoenix, etc. LEOSA doesn't provide legal protection from the GFSZA.
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MCPO Roger Collins
MCPO Roger Collins
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I would like to see her at the range.
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It's a 6 month wait for upstate N.Y. if you don't live in the city. If you live in the city then your better off trying to.win the lotto
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CW3 Harvey K.
CW3 Harvey K.
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SSG (Verify To See) - The only reason a MD cop would need a state-issued CCW in addition to his badge and police ID, is because the stupid GFSZA will not exempt him from the federal law unless his has such a CCW, issued by the state in which the school is located, and a law enforcement agency approves the issuance of the CCW.
If a cop is on-duty, no problem. If he is off-duty, and goes to pick up his kid at school with only his badge, he is in violation of federal law.
Ain't that a cute little "gotcha" they put in the law?
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Maj John Bell
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It may not be a good analogy, but... I know that the applicable laws for driving are not identical in each state. Each state recognizes my drivers license, but it is still incumbent upon me to make sure that I follow the rules of the state in which I am driving.
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PO3 Steve Bulger
PO3 Steve Bulger
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You are correct, Major. That being said, the Constitution is silent on the privilege of driving (for obvious reasons), but it is explicitly clear on the matter of firearms. And the Supreme Court, the final arbiter of federal law, has recently issued landmark rulings on the subject.
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