Posted on Aug 11, 2014
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This topic is more related to the superior ranks whether it be NCO's or Officers. Before getting to the topic let me say I am fairly knew to the army(17 months), but i am very... hooah; i guess is a good term. i grew up army and joined with discipline, i think that it has gotten to "soft." i follow and know the standards sent down from my superiors. i only mention this so i hopefully don't get backlash for just being "another private."

So... to the topic above. I am a white male with a permanent shaving profile which i always have at least one copy of on my persons. it states :
"must be uniform and neatly trimmed to a length of ~1/8 inch - 1/4 inch(not to exceed 1/4 inch total length of curled hair) so as to maintain a neat and clean appearance. no styling of the beard is authorized."
I am always within my range of length and never style, i just trim the whole thing. i have had bumps and cuts ever since i started shaving.

so to stop "defending myself" and get to the real point. How do you first react to a soldier who obviously didn't shave? I would about 85% of those that "correct" me on the spot do so by starting the correction in a degrading sometimes yelling and profane way only to find out after they are done that i have a profile. then when they find that out theres no appologizing for making a public scene so everyone thinks that private is a ____bag. i have actually been in a situation in which one superior did this, only to have a higher rank 2 mins later yell at me again to find out the same thing.

So again, how do some of you respond at first? what do you think is an appropriate way to react to the lower ranking soldier? keep in mind, a young soldier doesn't forget most of his/her encounters with higher ranks.

thank you everyone for your responses, its good to hear more opinions of how some of your fellow leaders are acting to junior enlisted. have a good night all.
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SFC James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4"
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As long as that soldier is within the limits of their profile, then more power to them. I have a permanent shaving profile myself. You never want to find yourself in those categories of leaders who go around harrassing soldiers with profiles. They have a profile for a reason. So I have no issues here. I have better things to be doing than to go around and screaming at SPC XY&Z only to find out that he or she has a shaving profile.
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Have you tried shaving with a safety razor? I used to get bumps and cuts on my face pretty bad i used 3-4-5 blade razors, clippers, trimmers even electric. An old barber showed me a safety razor i been using it ever since.
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Well when it comes to shaving profiles, I always ask for the profile before I say anything. Once I see the profile, I look at their face and see if it is too long. I understand that you can't really tell the difference between 1/8" and 1/4" unless you are looking real close. Then I look to see if it is edged at all. If they are my Soldier, I would make sure to outline procedures for following a profile and what violating it could cause.

Personal opinion: I think the shaving profile thing is a croc (unless there is a medical necessity or severe facial injuries, at least I think they would give it for that). You get bumps while shaving, big deal. I get the same thing every day, have been for the 10 or so years I have been shaving. I just got used to it after a while. I won't consider you a bad Soldier for having one, one that uses what is available to him.

Don't let my personal opinion fool you, I will still follow regulatory guidance and keep my thoughts to myself.
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Kudos for keeping it cool despite your opinion to the contrary.
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I have many opinions that go against what regulation may say. With that in mind, I always adhere to the regulation. It may not popular, but it is fair.
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