Posted on Mar 25, 2022
What are the origins of the topic stating that Soldiers are U.S. property and say, writing on your hand vandalizes U.S. property?
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Good Day,
I was curious about the origins of the topic above heard via word of mouth. Stating that Soldiers are U.S. Property and say, writing on your hand vandalizes U.S. Property?
This has been word of mouth since TRADOC, and hearing of stories of NCOs forcing their groups to do push-ups or low crawl on hot cement/streets causing burns don't seem to have supporting regulations behind this.
I want help finding these regulations; despite an hour of Googling came across no credible cited sources such as a .mil or current Army regulation.
Thank you very much for your guidance in advance.
I was curious about the origins of the topic above heard via word of mouth. Stating that Soldiers are U.S. Property and say, writing on your hand vandalizes U.S. Property?
This has been word of mouth since TRADOC, and hearing of stories of NCOs forcing their groups to do push-ups or low crawl on hot cement/streets causing burns don't seem to have supporting regulations behind this.
I want help finding these regulations; despite an hour of Googling came across no credible cited sources such as a .mil or current Army regulation.
Thank you very much for your guidance in advance.
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The law is called the 13th amendment. People are not property, that is called slavery.
During your time in the military you will hear all kinds of sayings passed down from people, that are simply not true. Just because a senior NCO says something they heard once doesn't make it true when they heard it, or true now. Tricare will not pay for one free boob job. Jane Fonda was not slipped a piece of paper with names on it. There is not a bullet in or under the truck on post. You cannot "add to but not take away" from any regulation. You do not get your choice of anything you want on your first reenlistment. Your family does not lose out on your SGLI if you die by suicide. Three counseling statements does not equal an Article 15.
There's a whole host of crazy BS that gets passed around the lower levels, that's just a sampling of it
During your time in the military you will hear all kinds of sayings passed down from people, that are simply not true. Just because a senior NCO says something they heard once doesn't make it true when they heard it, or true now. Tricare will not pay for one free boob job. Jane Fonda was not slipped a piece of paper with names on it. There is not a bullet in or under the truck on post. You cannot "add to but not take away" from any regulation. You do not get your choice of anything you want on your first reenlistment. Your family does not lose out on your SGLI if you die by suicide. Three counseling statements does not equal an Article 15.
There's a whole host of crazy BS that gets passed around the lower levels, that's just a sampling of it
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SGM Thomas Adderley
PV2 Jason Myers - During the early 60s the BS being told to new Pvts was that there was a Cal 45 bullet under the Ball or Eagle on top of the flag Pole and it was the last round to be used if the Base was ever overrun. There were many who believed it along with sending a newbie to the Commo Sgt for a can of Squelch Reducer because the radios were producing too much.
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CPO Bernie Penkin
PV2 Jason Myers - The story I hear was that inside the ball at the top of the flag hoist you would find a cigarette match and a bullet. The cigarette was to be your last one as you lit the flag on fire with the match so that it wouldn’t be desecrated by the enemy and the bullet was to put in your weapon so that you could shoot yourself and not get captured. At least that’s the way I heard it.
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You can't find supporting documents because they don't exist. Word of mouth shit house rumor mill has been active since Moses was a road guard. It prevails because young troops in Basic and AIT don't know any better and are too scared to challenge.
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SGT Keith Smith
My drill Sergeant made us low crawl and used his boot to push our heads down. The entire time he was telling us that in Vietnam you had to stay low or get shot in the head. We were all Tankers. Oh let’s not forget dragging a 40lb rucksack two feet behind you the entire 400 meters. Yes we had grass burns on our faces and yes that was the last we saw of our Senior Drill. We as a platoon started taking care of each other even against our drills. So abuse maybe but it had a positive affect.
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SP5 Wick Humble
1SG Rene Davis - "Since Jesus was still straightening nails in the carpenter shop." (Me)
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Other topics via word of mouth: box of grid squares, board straightener, blinker fluid, a tube of squelch grease, PRC-E7...
before "don't believe everything you read on the internet" there was "don't believe everything you hear in the barracks."
before "don't believe everything you read on the internet" there was "don't believe everything you hear in the barracks."
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SMSgt Lloyd Knopp
Have a newbie 2nd Lt, "Check the air pressure in the 5th wheel." . . . on a truck tractor. Or, send an airman to, "P/u a roll of flight line, from the supply sergeant." "A can of prop wash," was always a good one, back when the AF had a few more propeller driven aircraft.
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MSG Mark Turney
Don't forget the Black out Drive Fluid for the blackout drive lights and the Board Straightener.
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