Is a 1/2 bad on my first NCOER?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 10:51:01 -0400

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 25 at 2014 10:52 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 10:52:00 -0400

No that is not bad on any NCOER

Successful, and superior ratings, which is what a 1 and 2 (respectively) fall under are good

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As long as that is what you actually earned and deserve.

Response by 1SG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 25 at 2014 11:26 AM

1SG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:26:18 -0400

1/2 is not a bad rating at all, regardless of what NCOER it is. If you have 1's and 2's, you're doing good. 3 and below is where it starts to drop off.

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Jul 25 at 2014 11:31 AM

SGT Ben Keen — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:31:50 -0400

My problem is why would someone see a 1/2 on your first NCOER as "bad". People cannot expect to be a 1/1 straight out the gate. It's your first NCOER as a young Sergeant. You have plenty that you still need to learn about. Your skills are not sharpened at a level that I personally think deserves a 1/1.

I'm by no means saying that you, SSG Private RallyPoint Member, are saying you deserve a 1/1 at all and I know more young NCOs will have the same question that you do. I'm just merely trying to explain to the young NCOs that will come behind you that a 1/2 or heck a 2/2 for a first time NCOER isn't what I would classify as "bad".

Response by MSG Wade Huffman made Jul 25 at 2014 12:10 PM

MSG Wade Huffman — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:10:31 -0400

Whether or not a 1/2 is good or bad is irrelevant.
What you should be asking is was the 1/2 and accurate evaluation of your performance and potential. There are many things in the Army that you have no control over, but your NCOER is NOT one of them.
Your actions, attitude, proficiency etc. combined with COUNSELING from your rater (and remember, the quarterly counselings are MINIMUM requirements) will set the stage from your evaluation.
If you really want to stay ahead of the game, ask for more frequent counselings, ask questions on where you can improve, set tangible and measurable goals. Do this and you should never be surprised by your NCOER.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 25 at 2014 7:08 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:08:43 -0400

Receiving a 1 over 2 is not bad for your first NCOER. I think a 1 over 2 is about average for your first NCOER. It shows that you have room to grow. I would suggest that you look at the areas you got successes in, and try to improve on those areas. Stay Focused and you should be fine.

Response by CSM Mike Maynard made Jul 26 at 2014 7:15 PM

CSM Mike Maynard — Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:15:49 -0400

SSG Private RallyPoint Member - the purpose of the NCOER is to help you see yourself - your ability to perform and improve yourself, your organization and your peers/subordinates.

Honestly, the Sr Rater portion ratings - the 1/2 you speak of, are totally irrelevant in your situation - you are a young SGT and this NCOER will be so old by the time you get looked at for SFC, that they won't even go back that far. Additionally, the Sr Rater portion is not going to be what gets you recommended to go to the SSG board - your performance/potential is.

Focus on what your rater says you are doing well and the things you need to improve on - that is the benefit to the NCOER.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2014 7:50 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:50:39 -0400

You need to look at where the 1 and 2 fall in the rating , both are still successful and superior. For a first NCOER that's not bad at all, I think your rater did you justice by letting you know there is room for improvement.
One common mistake for many raters is giving someone 1/1 when they don't truly deserve it and the rated NCO often items feels they are on track when in reality they need to improve somewhere. Then the next rater gives a lower more realistic rating and the NCO feels slighted.
A 1/2 is good even a 2/2 would be good for a first time report.
Think about who you are rated against, it's not the entire Army. If you are a squad leader you are compared to the other squad leaders in your platoon. A competent rater knows that out of three or four squad leaders they rate only one can be among the best, that's your competition.

Response by SSG Robert Pierce made Jul 27 at 2014 1:17 PM

SSG Robert Pierce — Sun, 27 Jul 2014 13:17:09 -0400

SGT Turner,

Getting a 1/2 for your first NCOER is not a bad evaluation. You just need to focus more on your potential and exceed all standards in your performance. Remember action speaks louder than words. For example you are a salesman and you are selling your product (You) to your rating chain. This is done by accomplishing any mission given and taken care of your Soldiers. In a nut shell , Embrace the Challenge and Exceed the Standards. Good luck

Response by SFC Billy Huether made Dec 3 at 2015 4:53 PM

SFC Billy Huether — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 16:53:17 -0500

Yes! It's telling me as an E8/9 on your DA Centralized Promotion Board that you are the best you are ever going to be right where you are. Looking at it objectively, where is your room for improvement? You are a superstar, gold medal ninja right where you are. Why would I recommend promotion when the Army finally got the correct person in the correct position for once?
Best recommendation is for you to get your head in the regulations. If you're a SGT in promotable status you should NOT be asking this type of question!(although, it's good you are) Get in the mindset of being an SME ON ALL THINGS NCO! SME is subject matter expert! You are to be mentoring your subordinates and you cannot if you don't READ AND STUDY!
HOOAH?