Is China or the United States guilty of Human Rights violations?

2021-03-18T22:13:36-04:00

China on Wednesday blasted the United States' human rights record, citing what it called US failures against Covid-19 that cost "hundreds of thousands of lives," as well as racial discrimination, police brutality, and an "evil past of genocide."

Jiang Duan, a counsellor at the Chinese mission in Geneva, voiced the criticism at the end of an examination of the US rights record at the Human Rights Council, part of a regular review faced by all countries at the United Nations' top human rights body.

The comments testified to the growing outspokenness of Chinese diplomats, and the swelling rivalry between the world's top two economic powers. The US has repeatedly criticized China's rights record on issues like the rights of protesters in Hong Kong and the detention of Muslim Uyghurs in the Xinjiang region.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2021 10:18 PM

2021-03-18T22:18:07-04:00

CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana YEP... guilty on both sides.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2021 10:33 PM

2021-03-18T22:33:34-04:00

That was clearly more of a political statement than an actual accusation. To answer the question, I would first ask if human rights violations had to be intentional, or if actions caused those violations as a 2nd or 3rd order of effects. What constitutes a violation by their definition? Is a mask mandate a human rights violation? Is a forced quarantine and economic shutdown a violation? A statement like that is probably the most provocative way the speaker can say something that, when it’s dissected down to the actual facts, is not all that staggering.
They were being sensational, and if they don’t immediately back it up with facts and evidence, then it’s not really worth getting bent out of shape over.

Response by SFC Randy Hellenbrand made Mar 18 at 2021 10:56 PM

2021-03-18T22:56:35-04:00

Easy. Both are. China has it's Muslims and Hong Kong to name just two. Here in America, depending on what party is in power, it's everybody who isn't white. I learned very fast that every American military person, regardless of race or color, bleeds red blood. Those who didn't get this disgust me.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Mar 18 at 2021 10:59 PM

2021-03-18T22:59:20-04:00

The end result of Trump's absolutely stupid approach to pandemic control shaped the conditions for the US to have the highest pandemic metrics in the world. The response was so imbecilic that it makes me question his motives. Trump was about Trump first.

Putting Mexican children in detention centers with minimal shower and toile facilities, lack of soap and tooth brushes, lack of beds and blankets, and sometimes lack of requisite sanitary napkins was considered humane by the Trump administration.

A disproportionate number of blacks are hurt or killed in police custody but Trump called BLM terrorists.

Trump had the ability to fvck up a wet dream.

Response by SGT Jim Ramge, MBA made Mar 19 at 2021 12:15 AM

2021-03-19T00:15:53-04:00

CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana - Gene thanks for posting! I have to go with both. China for holding back on information in the beginning and the former Administration for its lack of action early on. Had Trump taken a more drastic measure and gotten the CDC and Army’s Former BIO operations at Detrick (last heard CDC shut it down) involved, closed the boarders, instituted Marshall Law for 6-8 weeks, we probably would be in a much better position, and not lost near as many lives as we have or be in our current state. Just my humble opinion...

Response by SFC Melvin Brandenburg made Mar 19 at 2021 12:26 AM

2021-03-19T00:26:55-04:00

Uigurs and Falun Gong. Oh, forced abortions. Need I list more regarding those commie bastards??