Posted on Dec 19, 2014
Is Intolerance of Christianity by exercising Free Speech right to you?
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One of my pet peeves is the intolerance of Christianity and so-called Right-Wingers. If a person believes strongly in something, they do because it is a value and those values are who they are.
So attacking their core values is throwing down the gauntlet and challenging those beliefs in ways which are intolerant and even abusive. That love of country, love of their religion and love of a particular way of life.
“You're gonna have to serve somebody; well, it may be the devil, or it may be the Lord, but you're gonna have to serve somebody...”
― Bob Dylan
Freedom of Religion-
ading into the controversy surrounding an Islamic center planned for a site near New York City’s Ground Zero memorial this past August, President Obama declared: “This is America. And our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country and that they will not be treated differently by their government is essential to who we are.” In doing so, he paid homage to a vision that politicians and preachers have extolled for more than two centuries—that America historically has been a place of religious tolerance. It was a sentiment George Washington voiced shortly after taking the oath of office just a few blocks from Ground Zero
“I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance, or admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others.”– Thomas Jefferson, letter to Edward Dowse, April 19, 1803
“The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.” – Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781-82
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/07/dawkins-mock-them-ridicule-them-in-public-with-contempt/
There are those like Mr Dawkins who have a passionate hate for something he doesn't even believe in. Many of the Christian Evangelists are mere Charlatans like Benny Hinn but his followers aren't too swift.
"For although in a certain sense and for light-minded persons non-existent things can be more easily and irresponsibly represented in words than existing things, for the serious and conscientious historian it is just the reverse. Nothing is harder, yet nothing is more necessary, than to speak of certain things whose existence is neither demonstrable nor probable. The very fact that serious and conscientious men treat them as existing things brings them a step closer to existence and to the possibility of being born." Introduction, p. 9 Magister Lui by Herman Hesse.
What do you think? Do you think that Christianity is being put down too often?
So attacking their core values is throwing down the gauntlet and challenging those beliefs in ways which are intolerant and even abusive. That love of country, love of their religion and love of a particular way of life.
“You're gonna have to serve somebody; well, it may be the devil, or it may be the Lord, but you're gonna have to serve somebody...”
― Bob Dylan
Freedom of Religion-
ading into the controversy surrounding an Islamic center planned for a site near New York City’s Ground Zero memorial this past August, President Obama declared: “This is America. And our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country and that they will not be treated differently by their government is essential to who we are.” In doing so, he paid homage to a vision that politicians and preachers have extolled for more than two centuries—that America historically has been a place of religious tolerance. It was a sentiment George Washington voiced shortly after taking the oath of office just a few blocks from Ground Zero
“I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance, or admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others.”– Thomas Jefferson, letter to Edward Dowse, April 19, 1803
“The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.” – Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781-82
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/07/dawkins-mock-them-ridicule-them-in-public-with-contempt/
There are those like Mr Dawkins who have a passionate hate for something he doesn't even believe in. Many of the Christian Evangelists are mere Charlatans like Benny Hinn but his followers aren't too swift.
"For although in a certain sense and for light-minded persons non-existent things can be more easily and irresponsibly represented in words than existing things, for the serious and conscientious historian it is just the reverse. Nothing is harder, yet nothing is more necessary, than to speak of certain things whose existence is neither demonstrable nor probable. The very fact that serious and conscientious men treat them as existing things brings them a step closer to existence and to the possibility of being born." Introduction, p. 9 Magister Lui by Herman Hesse.
What do you think? Do you think that Christianity is being put down too often?
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I've never had an atheist knock on my door and try to convert me to atheism.
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Cpl Christopher Bishop
Freedom of Religion includes freedom from it. That in and of itself is not intolerance. Clergy Pedophiles on the other hand earn intolerance.
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1LT L S Nah, he is about 10 years younger than myself depending on his age at the time of enlistment.
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SPC Scott Mayhew where in the hell did you buy that baloney sandwich from? Go read the Treaty of Tripoli and tell me if we were founded "as a christian nation". Then go study some American history and read about how all the Christians were always either killing each other or killing the natives over their differences of religious opinion (or out of greed), and tell me how that lines up with your Disney fantasy about America. Next you're going to tell me Jesus and Moses helped write the Constitution... Also funny how you talk about freedom of religion as if it were a Christian value, and then talk about how defacing the 10 commandments as some profane act when the first 2 commandments specifically prohibit the exercise of freedom of religion.
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SSgt (Join to see), I will not expound on my beliefs because I don't wish to engage in a long, drawn-out debate, but I will opine that YES, Christianity is put down too often. I am a Christian and I love my fellow humans equally whether they're atheist, Christian, Muslim, or of another belief... whether they're heterosexual, homosexual, transgender or other. I treat everyone equally.
Is it really too much to ask that non-Christians be as tolerant of my beliefs as I am of theirs? If Muslims want to take time off to worship on Fridays or bow 5 times per day toward mecca, more power to them. If Wiccans want to practice their faith in the military, I have no problem with that.
All I ask is that, if our school-aged children want to pray to a Christian God before their football game or hold a prayer meeting before class, that they be allowed the same freedom to practice their faith as others. Why can't Christians have the same level of religious freedom as Muslims, atheists, and others?
Is it really too much to ask that non-Christians be as tolerant of my beliefs as I am of theirs? If Muslims want to take time off to worship on Fridays or bow 5 times per day toward mecca, more power to them. If Wiccans want to practice their faith in the military, I have no problem with that.
All I ask is that, if our school-aged children want to pray to a Christian God before their football game or hold a prayer meeting before class, that they be allowed the same freedom to practice their faith as others. Why can't Christians have the same level of religious freedom as Muslims, atheists, and others?
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SA Robert Henson
Although, Captain, in recent years it has been people of extreme Islamic faith that has done these things to America, what of the other 99% of the Islamic followers. Remember that Christians have also had an extreme history in the past of "Cleansing of the wretched and wicked". Although these incidents happened over 100 years ago, they are still in our history. And unlike the 1% of Islam that is being used, Christianity was at over 35% of extremism. This was mostly due to fear and hatred from the Catholic Church. As Confucius said, "Those who fail to learn history, are doomed to repeat it."
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SFC Jeremy Stocker
SA Robert Henson - I am just going to leave this here. do with it what you will. https://factreal.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/muslim-crusades-started-four-centuries-before-the-western-crusades/
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Capt Jeff S.
Shame on those Christians for forcing the gov't to redefine words in the English language to accommodate their desire to be viewed as normal, even when their behavior is inconsistent with their biology... For forcing others to violate their deeply held convictions in order to do business with them and accommodate their unsavory practices and lifestyle choices... Oh, silly me. I wasn't talking about Christians... But if you know some folks that fit that description, then who is it really that is so intolerant?
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What absolutely BLOWS MY MIND is how often my fellow Christians continuously attack Islam with the same level of zeal and ignorance that so many others attack Christianity.
If you are learned in the subject of Islam and/or Christianity then fine, say what you will. But as any follower of Christ should know, it takes more than studying the text to "get it". I have been told by Muslims that the same applies to Islam. Who am I to say any different?
Christians, as much as we feel attacked based on sheer ignorance, imagine how the descendants of Ishmael feel?
Support freedom of religion for ALL or else this intolerance will continue to spread throughout our own faith.
If you are learned in the subject of Islam and/or Christianity then fine, say what you will. But as any follower of Christ should know, it takes more than studying the text to "get it". I have been told by Muslims that the same applies to Islam. Who am I to say any different?
Christians, as much as we feel attacked based on sheer ignorance, imagine how the descendants of Ishmael feel?
Support freedom of religion for ALL or else this intolerance will continue to spread throughout our own faith.
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SFC Jeremy Stocker
I believe in freedom of religion, However No one should be free to used religion to infringe upon the writes of others. You are free to believe and worship what you want and even to share these beliefs but you are not free to oppress and terrorize.
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SFC Jeremy Stocker
Capt Jeff S. - How long is their violent phase going to last? After looking it the history of Islam it started with Mohammed and has never let up.
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Capt Jeff S.
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SFC Jeremy Stocker - The gay community loves to attack Christians because they call sin for what it is... sin AND they're soft targets. Mainstream Christians are by nature non-violent and instead of beheading those that insult them, they just turn the other cheek. You don't see Gays suing Muslim bakeries.
How long is the Islamic violent phase going to last? Have you read their Holy Book? It's in there. It will NEVER stop and will NEVER let up until the entire world is submitted to Islam. But just in case you were thinking that peace would reign in an entirely Muslim world, take a look at the Middle East. If they're not fighting infidels they're busy fighting each other and blaming it on the infidels. I think violence is bound up in Muslim DNA. If you adhere to a literal interpretation of the Qu'ran, there is no other way to interpret it except as advocating violence on non-Muslims and apostates. It is a hate based political system that spreads itself under the guise of being a religion and it uses fear and intimidation to win new converts. Frankly, I am missing what about it is so attractive to people... unless they simply don't want their heads cut off and are too big of pussies to fight for their freedom.
Right now we are in Iraq fighting for whom? The Iraqis! I heard the JCS say that the problem in Iraq is getting the Iraqis to fight for themselves. BINGO! These guys don't want freedom bad enough to fight for it. They are hamstrung by their religion. They only appreciate us for what we can do for them... and better our blood get spilled than theirs.
I love this guy. He tells it like it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1GrdTakvl8
How long is the Islamic violent phase going to last? Have you read their Holy Book? It's in there. It will NEVER stop and will NEVER let up until the entire world is submitted to Islam. But just in case you were thinking that peace would reign in an entirely Muslim world, take a look at the Middle East. If they're not fighting infidels they're busy fighting each other and blaming it on the infidels. I think violence is bound up in Muslim DNA. If you adhere to a literal interpretation of the Qu'ran, there is no other way to interpret it except as advocating violence on non-Muslims and apostates. It is a hate based political system that spreads itself under the guise of being a religion and it uses fear and intimidation to win new converts. Frankly, I am missing what about it is so attractive to people... unless they simply don't want their heads cut off and are too big of pussies to fight for their freedom.
Right now we are in Iraq fighting for whom? The Iraqis! I heard the JCS say that the problem in Iraq is getting the Iraqis to fight for themselves. BINGO! These guys don't want freedom bad enough to fight for it. They are hamstrung by their religion. They only appreciate us for what we can do for them... and better our blood get spilled than theirs.
I love this guy. He tells it like it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1GrdTakvl8
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