Posted on Oct 1, 2020
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I am a MS3 ROTC Cadet with a Handicap Parking Permit. The Cadet BN CDR ordered me to move my vehicle from the Handicap Spot to another location because: 1) parking spots in the front of the BLDG is for Cadre, 2) my vehicle is blocking the entrance (my vehicle is within the Handicap Parking boundaries), 3) i need to park at the Cadet parking lot.

What are some guidance from Rallypoint?
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CPT Jason Sierakowski
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I'm curious why you think Rally Point is going to give you sound guidance on this. You could look at state laws for handicap parking, which you are within the law to use.

"Cadre parking" is not a lawful parking area. It doesn't matter what an SOP or MFR says.

This always kills me.... The only authorized parking locations are handicap, it's the law. I get it, CSM and the Commander want a parking spot... There is no legal basis for that. If a Soldier parks in said spot, the MPs cannot tow a vehicle. Just because you paint a curb your unit color doesn't make it legal.
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SGT Dan Gray
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MSgt Gilbert Jones - Sorry again stupid, you can do this if you wan to lose your stripes or bars

MSgt Gilbert Jones - NOT TO F*CKING BRIGHT ARE YOU? Americans with Disabilities Act(ADAG a copy can be obtained at any JAG office states specifically

ADA parking
Vehicle Spaces: Accessible parking for cars must be at least 96 inches wide, with an access aisle of at least 60 inches. Width: Access aisles serving car and van parking must be at least 60 inches wide. Length: Access aisles must extend the full length of the parking spaces that they serve.

Once an ADA parking spot is set, can it be removed? Not if you want to keep your stripes and bars https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjrrdOqt4XwAhUWG80KHQ70DwkQFjACegQIBxAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ada.gov%2Fracheck.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1e3o_CRcbGP1ax1jTDB-qh

You really need to keep your trap shut when you dont know what the hell you are talking about https://www.ada.gov/
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SGT Dan Gray
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MSgt Gilbert Jones - wrong yet again stupid the ADA office in the US DOJ says different https://www.ada.gov/
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MSgt Gilbert Jones
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Sgt Gray, the only person on here right now that is stupid is you.
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SPC Cpn Operator
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Now, I just got this in the Rallypoint spam emails. But why are NCOs and SNCO's throwing insults at eachother like 12 year olds. I'm just a specialist, and honestly, I don't have much grounds to speak on against anyone here. However, if you want to debate, then debate, but don't stoop as low as using insults to prove a point. It doesn't do anything but give you less of an argument and makes everyone here look bad.
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I would like to see your BN CDT CDR explain to the Senior ROTC Instructor(s) why you were ordered to move your car from a handicap spot when you have a valid (even if it's a temp one) permit.
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SPC Jasen E.
SPC Jasen E.
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coulda woulda shoulda done a lot of things different during that time. It was only about a month later that the doctor removed me from my unit and placed me in a medical holding company out of reach of the 1Lt. If I had known then what I know now I surely would have brought that to someone's attention. Looking back on it, this Lt wasn't afraid to ruffle the feathers of the enlisted soldiers under him. Where the other Lts in the unit worked hard to build a degree of camaraderie within the unit, he was perfectly ok just ordering it to exist. I didn't put a lot of stock into the things he said. As I think I put in another post, the only other trouble I had with being on medical profile was from a SFC who couldn't understand why an active duty had disabled plates for his car. I could see the disgust on his face as he stormed away from my car. But other than those 2 incidents, everybody was very understanding of my restrictions and worked to accommodate.
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CPT Jerry Lucas
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LCDR Robert S. - Or the PMS is suffering from PMS.
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SFC Terry Bryant
SFC Terry Bryant
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SPC Jasen E. - Medical doctors can't and will never be able to give military profiles. They can give you a handi-cap sticker even if temporary and you are allowed to use it ANYWHERE on or off post. Many people in the Military or retired Military would go to war with their legs and arms cut off and they feel everyone should be like them. It is where the attitude comes from that you should park on the back 40 even if you need a wheel chair to get into the building. You did nothing wrong and this should have been reported and handled though your chain of command. You ALWAYS use your chain of command. That protects you as well.
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SPC Jasen E.
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SFC Terry Bryant - There might have been a time when I could have related to that way of thinking, but when the reality of my situation became apparent, it was never going to happen. Maybe if I HAD lost my legs I'd have been happy to wheel myself in from the back 40. But my situation came with double vision inducing pain that made moving physically impossible for months on end. At that time I was already in the medical holding unit and I really felt for the 1st Sgt, there. He was former infantry who had the misfortune of leading a unit of 20+ people that, according to him, only had a handful of genuine physically limiting issues. I guess it's true at that time there was very little known about invisible disabilities, so their may have been more injuries than he realized, but I just tried to stay out of his way. He was always cool to me, even though he had to come to me because I couldn't get into his office because of 2 sets of 4 stairs (dumb place to put an office for disabled people). At that point I had a very good relationship with my surgeon who was more than happy to intercede on my behalf on more than one occasion. As an O6 he was head of the entire surgical department at Eisenhower at Ft Gordon who took over my case when the doctors under him tried to kill me. I can laugh about it now. Having had trouble with a few people at the time, he extended an open door policy with me. The SSG in the parking lot was little more than a novelty to me at that point that I certainly would have pointed in the direction of my surgeon had he been more abrasive. But as it was over just 90 seconds after it started.
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LTC Kevin B.
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Edited 7 mo ago
If you have a handicap permit, you are legally able to park there. I would tell the Cadet Bn Cdr to first discuss the matter with the university police.
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SPC Daniel Rankin
SPC Daniel Rankin
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I have a permanant plate that can be switched from one vehicle to another when I purchase another vehicle. The only thing I have to buy each year is a new tag. This plate is good in all states. It says disabled veteran on it and handicapped wheel on it also
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SSgt James Thorpe check the regulations Texas law a Disabled Veteran plate is DV anything is authorized handicap parking anywhere in TX
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SGT Christina Barron that is something to do with your State laws in Texas it is required a minimum of 60 percent to have DV Plates and no other documentation necessary for any disabled parking however there are some officers that still insist on wrighting tickets and judges throw them out and reprimand the officers in open court
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MAJ Russ Hanson
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In Oregon as I read it it must be an Oregon authorized DMV placard nothing about military disabled plate even if issued by ORegon.
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