Is it acceptable for a LEO to bait a fight with a disrespectful kid?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 09:08:41 -0400

There was a double-body cam video released of a police officer responding to a domestic disturbance call. While he was on the scene, he picked a fight with a young man (looked to be around 18-19) because the kid would not stop running his mouth. Is it acceptable to conduct yourself this way while on the job as a law enforcement official?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQR1rfndUZk

EDIT: I do understand the desire to want to shut this kid down, and I completely disagree with the blatant disrespect given to a man who was only doing his job. But what do you think of this, RallyPoint?

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Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2017 9:10 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 09:10:34 -0400

No but the kid needed a smack down.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2017 9:10 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 09:10:57 -0400

Negative. Never bait. The one thing ALL officers must remember, they are ALWAYS being watched. Any act that appears shady, whether it is or not, is bad.

Response by SGT Edward Wilcox made Apr 4 at 2017 9:16 AM

SGT Edward Wilcox — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 09:16:11 -0400

In a word, never. The one thing the police seem to forget is "professionalism". This guy wasn't acting like a professional, he was acting like a thug.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2017 10:33 AM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 10:33:12 -0400

Both of them are in the wrong here. And hey, guess what? Mr. Tough Guy talking all big and bad to the police got to enjoy a beat down. And Mr. Unprofessional lost his job. So who won this fight? Society.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Apr 4 at 2017 10:42 AM

MSG Brad Sand — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 10:42:16 -0400

The officer was wrong in this case, in my humble opinion, and I hope the proper actions are taken. Not everyone is right for this, or any other, position.

Response by Cpl Mark McMiller made Apr 4 at 2017 11:00 AM

Cpl Mark McMiller — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 11:00:46 -0400

Yea, I'd say that's not just unprofessional; that's assault and battery. Cop needs to spend some time in jail.

Response by SFC George Smith made Apr 4 at 2017 11:10 AM

SFC George Smith — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 11:10:36 -0400

in the CCW and Security Classes I have Taken over the years The LEO's made it Clear ... it was Never Good or Wise to "Bait or Egg" anyone into any thing...

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2017 11:41 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 11:41:13 -0400

He messed up by baiting and engaging him. At the same time the hood rat got what he deserved and clearly needed a beating earlier on in his life.

Response by Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin made Apr 4 at 2017 12:37 PM

Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 12:37:15 -0400

The Officer definitely acted improperly, but I certainly feel for the situation he was in. This is what I find wrong with some of the kids in this country today. There is an unfortunate lack of respect for the Police and for that matter, any sort of authority.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Apr 4 at 2017 2:26 PM

MCPO Roger Collins — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 14:26:17 -0400

Reminds me of Ron Whites story about getting caught with pot. He said he had the right not to say anything, but chose not to use that right.

Response by MSG Dan Castaneda made Apr 4 at 2017 4:42 PM

MSG Dan Castaneda — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 16:42:39 -0400

He deserved it. America's decaying youth.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Apr 4 at 2017 7:20 PM

SSG Edward Tilton — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 19:20:02 -0400

Yes, if there are members of the public present. That is justification for arresting them

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made Apr 5 at 2017 12:51 AM

SGT Jerrold Pesz — Wed, 05 Apr 2017 00:51:03 -0400

It is not acceptable but sometimes it is sure hard not to do it.

Response by SPC Erich Guenther made Apr 5 at 2017 9:00 AM

SPC Erich Guenther — Wed, 05 Apr 2017 09:00:12 -0400

The problem as I see it is a single officer responding to a domestic disturbance call which is one of the most dangerous calls to respond to. Most police departments would handle that with at least two officers. As for the kid, should have been arrested and hauled away for interfering with a law enforcement officer, hence again.......only one officer here?

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 13 at 2017 11:30 PM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Apr 2017 23:30:56 -0400

What do you think? Three guesses, the first two don't count!!!

Response by SSgt Boyd Herrst made Dec 21 at 2018 12:49 AM

SSgt Boyd Herrst — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 00:49:03 -0500

I MHO I wouldn’t call it entrapment.. it was just prob’ly one of those sitreps
That turned out to appear that way..

Response by SSgt Boyd Herrst made Dec 21 at 2018 12:43 PM

SSgt Boyd Herrst — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 12:43:01 -0500

The officers know their ROEs and need to follow them or risk seeing charges dismissed and his own job maybe suspended or terminated