Is it allowed to bar someone from reenlistment for not doing DLC2 on short notice?

2020-11-16T13:44:40-05:00

My coworker and I made NCO in September. My supervisor said we had until December to finish DLC2 but right now he says it needs to be completed by this Friday. We are going to the field tomorrow morning and coming back Thursday evening which leaves little time to do this. They are threatening to bar us from reenlistment if we don't finish by Friday. Other NCOs have made much, much more time to finish. Is it allowed to bar someone from reenlistment for not doing DLC2 on such short notice? Please no answers about being on the radar, standing out, or being a team player. I do not fear retaliation by the organization.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2020 1:52 PM

2020-11-16T13:52:52-05:00

Lesson learned - don't procrastinate. Get that stuff knocked out asap. But since you didn't do that...

The only one who can initiate a bar to continued service (it appears it is no longer bar to reenlistment per Chapter 8; AR 601–280). Could the commander initiate one if recommended by your NCOs or the 1SG for not getting DLC 2 done? Could - is it likely? I don't know your commander.

You have had plenty of time to get this done. That's the bottomline. You have had since September to get it done. Why didn't you just do it then? In Sept, Oct or before this week?

Ask to talk to whoever is above your supervisor.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2020 2:52 PM

2020-11-16T14:52:42-05:00

No, the bar for failing to complete DLC is automatic and placed by HQDA. It is an 8K bar. The bar your commander can initiate is a 9K bar and completely different. If you don't complete your DLC in the correct amount of the the 8K bar is placed by HQDA and your commander has no input in the process.

Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Nov 16 at 2020 2:57 PM

2020-11-16T14:57:46-05:00

Not knowing the details:

1. Bar to reenlistment (I’m old school) can only be done by the commander; No exceptions. Also, is a corrective tool and it’s remove shortly after the indented action is achieved; with a few exceptions.

2. Regarding to completion DLC2 and promotion. What the regulation states? The answer is what drives the trains. Nothing else!

3. Now, time to get flak. As the NCO you just became, tell me... How do your first impression on your Chain of Command and NCO Support Channel stand? Food for thought!

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2020 4:42 PM

2020-11-16T16:42:57-05:00

FWIW, I did SSD2 (precursor to DLC2) over two days off during my second deployment at Kandahar Airfield Afghanistan over a really shitty Internet connection. We only got one day off per week, so it took me two weeks, but here in the states, you should have no problem knocking it out in an afternoon. Take notes and listen/learn. Army educational programs aren't that tough.

I commiserate with you on the short timeline; it sucks. But we all have to do what we need to do, sometimes when we don't want to. I was told at 1530 the day before that I was taking a PT Test for WLC. I said "OK" and then scored a decent 262. Being a NCO, you will only get more and more of these last minute requirements. It's part of the job. Be a good example to the junior troops and get it done. Sorry (not sorry) that I couldn't be more sensitive and stuff, but being a leader means you sometimes get screwed in support of the mission or your troops.

Response by CSM David Porterfield made Nov 16 at 2020 5:01 PM

2020-11-16T17:01:42-05:00

A good habit to have is get everything done as early as possible so you don't get caught by surprises. The Army is master of surprises so its a great habit for success.