Is it bad that a lower enlisted soldier wore a service cap to his wedding?

2018-03-03T22:19:25-05:00

A lower enlisted soldier wore a service cap to his wedding is that bad?

Response by SGT Joseph Gunderson made Mar 3 at 2018 10:29 PM

2018-03-03T22:29:29-05:00

Umm... Could you be more clear as to what you are talking about when you say "service cap"?

Response by SGT Jamarl Jones made Mar 3 at 2018 10:42 PM

2018-03-03T22:42:31-05:00

Crime of the century. Probably good for 30-40 years in Leavenworth. In other news, a PFC from Fort Hood put his hands in his pockets for over 17 seconds.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Mar 4 at 2018 10:55 AM

2018-03-04T10:55:15-05:00

If he was not in complete uniform and got caught- ass chewing, if not caught but seen later- ass chewing. Either way he takes his lumps- ART 15/UCMJ- nope

Response by GySgt Charles O'Connell made Mar 4 at 2018 4:44 PM

2018-03-04T16:44:12-05:00

Being out of uniform is, being out of uniform, and the Soldier should no better, and have greater pride in his/her appearance. Just out of curiosity, what is a, "lower enlisted soldier", some sort of bottom feeder?

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Mar 4 at 2018 5:18 PM

2018-03-04T17:18:20-05:00

Here is the guidance from DA PAM 670-1. Was he wrong for wearing it? Yes. Is he going to get shotgun blasted in the face for it? Unlikely, especially at a wedding. Definitely a learning moment. So is it bad? Yeah. But more a "Private moment" than anything else.

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(1) Corporals and above may wear the service cap as an optional headgear with the blue uniform. The beret is the primary headgear worn with the service uniform by all Soldiers unless the commander directs wear of the service cap (for corporal and above).

Response by MSG John Duchesneau made Mar 4 at 2018 11:03 PM

2018-03-04T23:03:09-05:00

I'm not sure of the current regs but I think the service cap is for officers and NCOs only. On the other hand, its a wedding and the service cap looks sharper than the beret.

Response by PVT Mark Brown made Mar 5 at 2018 12:16 AM

2018-03-05T00:16:22-05:00

No, not as long as it had no badges, insignia or military printing on it. I would say that is OK and good to go.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2018 10:46 PM

2018-03-05T22:46:17-05:00

2 years in the brig

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2018 10:49 PM

2018-03-05T22:49:00-05:00

Sounds like a pvt just trying to show off his uniform. He is proud of it. But if he is allowed then what is the problem.

Response by SSG Shawn Stauffer made Mar 6 at 2018 8:38 PM

2018-03-06T20:38:44-05:00

I've been out a long time, so I'm going out on a limb here. When I hear " service cap" I picture the old " bus driver" hat that went with the old dress greens. Ok, I get it's not authorized for SPC and below, but I don't see it as a major infraction. It's not like he was decked out like some PX Ranger. Give the EM a counselling statement and move on.

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Jun 15 at 2018 4:41 PM

2018-06-15T16:41:18-04:00

That depends was his future wife also his sister, aunt, mother, or cousin? In the answer is yes, by all means, if the answer is no, WTF was he thinking?