Is it just my generation of veterans who look down on veteran pride/apparel, or does that change with age/how long you have been out?

SGT Suraj Dave — Sun, 04 Dec 2016 14:54:08 -0500

This past veterans day, I noticed lots of the older veterans wear their uniform tops with jeans, or their field jackets, or just veteran apparel in general. I noticed in my cohort, wearing veteran/uniform apparel of any sort, from "Grunt Style" to "Dysfunctional Veteran" shirts, you will get clowned on by other veterans. Is this unique to my generation? Just curious. I don't plan on ever wearing

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2016 2:59 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 04 Dec 2016 14:59:12 -0500

SGT Suraj Dave I served from 1968 to 1972. I wear my Marine Corps ball cap most of the time. Once a Marine, Always a Marine. There is nothing wrong about being proud of your service. Why would you not be proud?

Response by PO3 Ricky Foster made Dec 4 at 2016 3:05 PM

PO3 Ricky Foster — Sun, 04 Dec 2016 15:05:28 -0500

I don't wear bits and piece of my uniform but I do wear Navy ball caps and some tee shirts collected over the years.

Edit: Ive been out about 13 years.

Response by ENS Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2016 3:06 PM

ENS Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 04 Dec 2016 15:06:27 -0500

I don't think there is anything wrong with having pride in your service time, active or retired. In fact, I often see veterans or active duty service members wearing hats, shirts, or if in active duty, uniforms and I will thank them for their service. Whether you served 3 years or 30, you signed that line and made a sacrifice. Now, I am not one to run around boasting and flaunting my service, but perhaps that will change when I retire. Perhaps there are some people who have so much pride in their branch and service, they want to show it off. I have no issue with that - because to me, they have fully earned that right. For active duty, I do not encourage flaunting your status for your own protection, however, for veterans and retirees I fully support it. I've seen veterans run into each other or stop one another and talk about their service time because one was wearing a "Vietnam" service hat. It's pretty cool. There will always be those who have the stance that we should be "quiet professionals" and not bring up our status or service time - but they should not talk down to those who have open pride regarding their service time. Just my two cents.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2016 3:40 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 04 Dec 2016 15:40:06 -0500

From earliest days of our military until the Korean War, the only formal outfit a veteran might own was their dress uniform they were issued. In fact, from the early days until WWI, there was little difference from the duty uniform worn in the field and the uniform worn for dress for enlisted soldiers.

In the Vietnam era, you had the counter culture revolution going on in full stride. Long hair, field jackets, and blue jeans were symbolic of the rejection of the conservative society they were protesting. Still, if you look back at a lot of Vietnam era veterans organizations you see them wearing blazers, collared shirts, and ties.

Starting in the post Vietnam era, you see Special Operations soldiers taking a more visible role in warfare than in previous wars. Grenada, Panama, and Somalia were conflicts where Special Operations were placed at the forefront of military history, and even in modern pop culture in the form of movies and books.

Fast forward to the invasion of Afghanistan and you see the news and media saturated with pictures of bearded Special Operations soldiers wearing baseball caps wearing pistol belts and being likened to old West gunslingers.

It is in this era that we start seeing this culture of "Ranger Up", "Grunt Style", "Disgruntled Veterans", and a litany of other trashy veteran inspired clothing brands pop up. Often times these groups steal the emblems, motto, or other distinctive insignia for use in their own profit driven agenda. The big marketing point they try to sell is the image of the bearded, tattooed SOF veteran in the dirty, torn baseball hat.

Except that is not what the average veteran was. They were a finance clerk who wore a high and tight who deployed to Kuwait. They were a mechanized infantrymen who stood at parade rest for a PFC. "I'm a DV, stay back 200 meters"...dude you were a PAC clerk in a TRADOC unit.

This is the real bottom line. Only arrogant jackasses wear stuff like that, and most of the time they are not entitled to wear stuff like that. A veteran in a field jacket on Veterans day is only saying I served, and this is the only thing a veteran should have to advertise.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2016 3:52 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 04 Dec 2016 15:52:47 -0500

To be honest I was planning on sewing together a "Vet Jacket" from an old Desert Storm era top. Obviously didn't serve in the 90's but where I live tan works better than woodland for the heat. I also have a few Army/National Guard shirts that were given to me, so hey free clothes why not wear them. Then there's the Platoon Shirts/Hoodies from BCT/AIT. No one has given me shit so far from the Veteran Community whether at bars or restaurants.

Usually it starts a conversation.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2016 4:17 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 04 Dec 2016 16:17:48 -0500

I and many others my age are more focused on the present and the future than on the past... once I'm in my late 60's and older I will hopefully have a lot more time to feel nostalgic about the past.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2016 4:48 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 04 Dec 2016 16:48:03 -0500

Is it okay to look down on a vet because he/she shows pride that he/she has served?

Read the question again then and then think about your post.

Response by MSgt Richard Randall made Dec 4 at 2016 5:23 PM

MSgt Richard Randall — Sun, 04 Dec 2016 17:23:18 -0500

I wish I could wear my old field jacket with the pocket rocket and SAC patch but the damn thing shrunk... especially in the middle.

Response by MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P made Dec 4 at 2016 6:35 PM

MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P — Sun, 04 Dec 2016 18:35:53 -0500

I see nothing wrong with wearing service pride apparel so long as it is tasteful and tactful. After all, as veterans, we've earned that right. As for wearing BDU/Fatigue tops with jeans, I don't particularly agree with the practice but there are bigger battles to be fought. I would love to be able to wear my old BDU Field Jacket but the darn thing has shrunk about 3 sizes since it's been hanging in my closet!

Response by CSM Thomas McGarry made Dec 4 at 2016 6:43 PM

CSM Thomas McGarry — Sun, 04 Dec 2016 18:43:55 -0500

Like many have said I think it's great to be proud of honorable military service and to display your pride. I personally don't wear something displaying my Army service all the time but that's just me. Usually if I see a vet with a cap or shirt that's military, especially if I think they are WWII Vets I thank them for their service!

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Dec 4 at 2016 10:55 PM

SSG Trevor S. — Sun, 04 Dec 2016 22:55:08 -0500

I usually don't have any issues if I wear Vet related clothing. I don't go running around in a half baked uniform, but I will wear hats, and possibly tshirts ect...

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Dec 5 at 2016 12:05 AM

CAPT Kevin B. — Mon, 05 Dec 2016 00:05:17 -0500

Given I'm ageing, I think it's starting to tug at me a bit more. I purposely wear my BDU cover when putting flags on the graves prior to Memorial day. Feels the only way to render a proper salute. But it'll take a larger tug to get me interested. Right now with the beard, kids come up to me in the stores thinking I'm Santa. Guess that's my moniker for now.....

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Dec 5 at 2016 12:37 AM

Capt Seid Waddell — Mon, 05 Dec 2016 00:37:00 -0500

My old uniforms were all destroyed in a flood - except for a field jacket that doesn't fit any longer.

Response by Maj John Bell made Dec 5 at 2016 1:20 AM

Maj John Bell — Mon, 05 Dec 2016 01:20:45 -0500

All my tube socks have red over gold stripes, that's as far as I go. My experience with civilians after getting out of the service were not bad, but I definitely think people made unwarranted assumptions about me, particularly when they found out I was Marine Infantry.

Response by SPC Erich Guenther made Dec 5 at 2016 2:12 AM

SPC Erich Guenther — Mon, 05 Dec 2016 02:12:46 -0500

C'mon get serious, your generation does wear that stuff not sure where you got the idea they didn't. I very rarely wear it because I ETS'd in 1987. Depends on mood. Spotted the neighbors kid running around in his Army PT uniform and the closest Active Army post is 3 hour drive away. I have seen current Active Duty 11B's though in 2014 when I used to own and run a Charley's Grilled Steaks place. Under Armor (with the fake flag on the shoulder), Unit T-Shirts with crossed rifles, Grunt Style as well. Yes, they avoid wearing the uniform top or bottom but that is because they know they will get nailed for it in public if they are Active Duty not necessarily because they don't want to wear it.......in my view. Lets face it, Duty uniform pants are more comfortable than jeans in a lot of cases. As for tops, I have not seen those a lot. Field Jackets are nice work jackets when your hunting or getting under the car and it is cold outside because the stains won't show up on the woodland camo as much. I never wore Field Jackets for Veterans Day though only for shoveling snow or working on the car / truck when it is cold outside and I don't want to stink up my civilian jacket.

Also, seen current 11B's driving around with blue chord hanging from rear view mirror and one I had to snicker at had a Soldier peeing on a Stetson hat........now that was funny but I would be curious if he drove that vehicle on post and I did not see post stickers on it.

Anyhoo, I don't see the same age stratification you do in wearing the Veterans stuff.

Response by Maj Kim Patterson made Dec 5 at 2016 3:33 AM

Maj Kim Patterson — Mon, 05 Dec 2016 03:33:02 -0500

I still own my original issued boots, olive drab fatigues (which I could fit in at the age of 50 and after childbearing) jackets, etc. I have some unit t-shirts in the back of my closet. I have a single gray t shirt with a discreet United States Air Force embroidered in blue. Not a big fan of ball caps but I finally decided. After every veteran event if I were accompanied by a male, I must be a non military wife, friend or dependent; it happened again this past November (2016) as a joined a Marine vet for dinner. I have a pink veteran ball cap on my car dash, I have yet to actually remove the price tag. I am most grateful for the parkas I was issued when winter sets in. You and your cohorts may not understand it now but a visible signal to others that they are Veterans as well is a welcome sight.

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Dec 5 at 2016 8:19 AM

Cpl Justin Goolsby — Mon, 05 Dec 2016 08:19:13 -0500

I don't think it's a generational thing. I believe there are 2 kinds of people who leave the service. There are those who close that chapter of their lives and that's the end of it. They won't talk about it, they won't display it. You probably wouldn't know they served until you dusted off some trinkets cleaning out their attic space. Then there are the ones who live and breathe the military. They enjoyed it so much that they never quite left the service. They have the memorabilia. They've probably got framed photos or awards. They might even have a model collection of some of the vehicles they worked with.

There's nothing wrong with either one. It's just the way we deal with separating. Not to mention you also have to factor in the reception the servicemembers received during their career. We've got some veterans who got out around the Support your Troops society and some during the Make Love, Not War society. This could also impact how a particular person feels about their service to the country.

Response by SFC Dennis A. made Dec 5 at 2016 8:34 AM

SFC Dennis A. — Mon, 05 Dec 2016 08:34:18 -0500

I have a ball cap that say "ARMY" on it that I wear and some veteran T-shirts that my grandkids have given me. I wear them with pride, that was 20 years of my life that I will never forget. I don't mix and match uniforms and civilian cloths just because that is me and not that I think it is disrespectful to the uniform or service. That field jacket or shirt is how a lot of people cope with and remember the friends and family who gave their life wearing that uniform.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 5 at 2016 9:58 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Dec 2016 09:58:10 -0500

Might just be where you are located. Here at Fort Carson you see clothes from Grunt Style, Nine Line Apparel and such everywhere you go. There is nothing wrong with having pride in your service. Same as Police and Fire Fighters they can usually be seen on off days wearing apparel showing PD or FD information on them. As far as wearing actual uniform items, that's a different story. I wouldn't wear any old uniform items unless I was out playing paintball or something.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 5 at 2016 1:26 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Dec 2016 13:26:55 -0500

I can't imagine a veteran or service member giving an hard time to any veteran wearing Veteran type apparel. This must be some sort of millennial thing. Pride in ones service is something to be emulated and supported.

Response by PO1 Brian Austin made Dec 5 at 2016 5:17 PM

PO1 Brian Austin — Mon, 05 Dec 2016 17:17:45 -0500

I see nothing wrong with someone showing pride in their service. Whether it's wearing a "veteran" ball cap or donning the old uniform for a Memorial Day or Veterans Day event.

I have a mish-mash of stuff. I have a few ball caps and t-shirts i'll wear from time to time. I have my old Navy work jacket that i wear when working outside sometimes, along with some old shipboard coveralls. I still have my Navy pea coat. I have some old forest camo. I like the pants for the "cargo style" pockets. None of the items has any insignia or anything.

Response by SGT Joseph Current made Dec 6 at 2016 5:01 AM

SGT Joseph Current — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 05:01:55 -0500

If you "clown" someone wearing a DV shirt and they act offended, they were just wearing the shirt. Not sure what cohort you're referring to, but if any of your contemporaries calls myself or any of the vets I affiliate with out for wearing any vet pride clothing, we'll tell them where their opinion actually matters and what the grid coordinates are. Being proud of your time in service is nothing to be given crap about and any active service member who does is forgetting those who came before them.

Response by SPC Dave Weaver made Dec 6 at 2016 6:20 AM

SPC Dave Weaver — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 06:20:25 -0500

that will change with time,you will realize that you were part of something special.a brotherhood,that only a few belong to.be proud of your service,hold your head high and let them know your proud to be a vet

Response by SSgt Bill Trevor made Dec 6 at 2016 6:25 AM

SSgt Bill Trevor — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 06:25:46 -0500

I hope it is just a short phase as when I first separated I kind of stayed under the radar apparel wise but as I've gotten older and have had time to reflect, the more proud I have become and the more open I am to wear Veteran style clothing. SEMPER FI!

Response by PO1 H Palmer made Dec 6 at 2016 6:34 AM

PO1 H Palmer — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 06:34:24 -0500

I wear shirts, ball caps that identify me as a Navy vet. I am proud of my service over sixty years ago.

Response by Cpl Luke Smith made Dec 6 at 2016 7:14 AM

Cpl Luke Smith — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 07:14:39 -0500

Why would you get clowned by another veteran because you take pride in the fact that you served your country? I wear clothes to show that I'm a veteran pretty regularly and I see many in my age range who do it as well. I think it's more about the pride of serving than anything else and as a veteran you should take pride in that fact and if your fellow vets clown you for it then they are the idiots.

Response by 1SG Harold Piet made Dec 6 at 2016 7:36 AM

1SG Harold Piet — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 07:36:44 -0500

I do not look down on a vet unless he is openly slamming the military in front of ordinary civilians. To slam the military to your congress man senate or psyc is different. to talk about your experience good or bad with other Vets is admirable. As for Uniform Items of any kind, let the owner use his or her own judgment. I wear an old BDU Shirt changed to a vest with all my patches and a few more when riding the Harley on real hot days. I have been out for 21 years.

Response by TSgt Jeremy S. made Dec 6 at 2016 7:42 AM

TSgt Jeremy S. — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 07:42:27 -0500

Are you still in? I think when people are currently serving and surrounded by others who are currently serving then of course you won't wear anything "veteran" related because everyone already knows you're a veteran and what you do everyday, etc. In that case I think most veterans serving skip the veteran gear and sometimes even try to look like they aren't a veteran as much as they can. For one, "veteran" gear, is like sports gear in a way, so you support your favorite "team", if you play on a sports team, you probably wear your uniform quite often, if your a fan you might have all the gear you can afford. At some point you will most likely find yourself away from the military and your service a memory, with fond memories of the people you once served with. You will likely use veteran gear to not only remind yourself of those people you are fond of, but find other former members while you are out and about. See only three percent of the population has EVER served, only .5 percent is currently serving. That means the chances of being surrounded by non-veterans after your service is high. Trust me when I say you will don the veteran gear when that happens. While you're serving and for a short period immediately after, you take your service for granted, like it's no big deal, most of us do. When you are no longer serving at some point you realize you are not like everyone else, you sacrificed everything and did extraordinary things, and you are proud that you are not like the rest of the population that's out rioting and burning flags. You also probably lost friends that you are closer with than your own family, you want to remember them as well as any battles you fought together to help their memory live on. See when your active your service is compared to others that are active, the competition is high to stand out as you in a group that is the best America has to offer. When you get out you are the best America has to offer and all veterans have done more than most of the rest of Americans around them. So eventually you are proud of your service, that you are a veteran and of your brothers and sisters. Eventually you want other brothers and sisters to identify you so you can share a common bond over a meal or help another veteran out with a struggle. So the veterans gear is just one way to display your pride (and you should be proud) in your service, your branch, your deployments and so forth. Remember that next time you clown each other. I highly recommend you and your peers don't clown unknown veterans you see wearing the gear out and about, you never know who they might be, or what they're going through and there may not be a UCMJ that can protect you!

Response by SP5 Peter Hawkins made Dec 6 at 2016 8:11 AM

SP5 Peter Hawkins — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 08:11:06 -0500

When I got out in 1969, nobody was thanking us "baby-killers" for our service. I think a lot of us just moved on in our minds. Nowadays when I wear my new US Army ball cap, I get more respect, especially down South, where strangers will walk up and shake my hand. I like feeling pride in my service, and I don't care what anybody else thinks.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2016 8:20 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 08:20:25 -0500

I see OIF and OEF Veteran hats worn all the time. It looks abnormal because, we, as in the younger veteran generation are used to seeing it say Vietnam or Gulf War, ect. I also think the Gruntsyle, Nine Line brands, ect are pretty popular among our communuty. These are Veteran owned businesses. There are those individuals that like to title guys wearing these clothes as "boots", but it is Veteran support so why not.

Response by LTC Stephen B. made Dec 6 at 2016 8:20 AM

LTC Stephen B. — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 08:20:41 -0500

No one should look down on a member who honorably served and wears memorabilia that reflects that service. Unfortunately, there have been so many posers wearing uniform items they didn't earn, whether because they never served or claim awards/MOSs they never earned, and that ends up reflecting on those that served honorably and are proud of their accomplishments.

For myself, I recently retired and am engaged in a new career. I was never big on formal parades, or parading around in uniform in general. I was proud to wear it every day, but to wear it now would feel like I'm looking for attention or living on past 'glory'.

I still have a number of T-shirts/sweatshirts/cold weather gear that I will wear at times, just because it's still functional. Perhaps when I'm retired-retired and have time to volunteer in veterans groups/programs I'll wear a ball-cap. I may hang on to the formal uniforms for special occasions (if my daughter wants me in uniform when/if she gets married, e.g.) but if I can't fit the uniform and wear it respectfully, then I won't.

Response by SSG Duane Tyler made Dec 6 at 2016 8:22 AM

SSG Duane Tyler — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 08:22:36 -0500

SGT Suraj Dave 1st let me say this, never say never because you can plan all you want but it doesn't mean it's going to go exactly as planned.
As recent as last week I finally got pissed of because I could not find a army retired ball cap with the 172D SBCT (Ft. Wainwright, Alaska) patch/insignia/logo on it. My unit made history since it was the 1st time being deployed since the 60's. We returned on Dec 3rd 2006 from a 16 month deployment and re-flagged to the 1/25 SBCT 2 weeks later. After years of searching I finally broke down and bought a skull cap from a vendor at the VA with 25th ID on it since I had be stationed in Hawaii assigned to that unit from 98-01. When I got home I pinned my Combat Service Identification Badge on top of my skull cap and I felt satisfied because I just created a new style of Veteran head gear. Yesterday, while I was at a medical appointment a veteran shook my hand and said, "I wore that patch in 67-68 in Vietnam". I was blown away because I had never met a combat Vet from that unit. I thanked him for his service and we began to 'jaw jack' for a while. The point is for me I didn't give a damn what history I was part of when I retired but a few years past I began to think of the differences I made while serving and started to feel proud of what I had done. It was my only deployment that I ever had and my family had to put up with a lot of stuff. So it became a matter of principle of to me. I helped make it matter. My service dates are Nov 87 to Mar 2010 and retired from Ft. Gordon and live in Augusta, Ga.

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Dec 6 at 2016 8:43 AM

Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 08:43:54 -0500

Don't think it's a generational or age thing. It's more a personal choice IMO. I've never worn any military related clothing since the day I retired, but that's me. I have many friends who do and they say it's their way of showing respect. I've had many friends try to get me to at least wear a ball cap, but that is never going to happen. I'm a JFK protégé when it comes to headgear; don't have any desire to wear any. Wore while in the military because it was required, but a hat hasn't touched my head since.

Response by PO2 Thomas Bodine made Dec 6 at 2016 8:54 AM

PO2 Thomas Bodine — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 08:54:37 -0500

As time passes you'll find you may not fit in the uniforms you wore in your youth. After you leave the military, you no longer have access to the uniform store, so when time comes to wear a uniform for special events you wear what you have that you can still get into. The only parts of my uniform that still fit me are my hats.

Response by SSG Gerald King made Dec 6 at 2016 8:56 AM

SSG Gerald King — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 08:56:03 -0500

I wear this hat pretty much every place I go and I get a lot of comments on it. I also wear the vest at times depending on where I am going.

Response by PO2 Rev. Frederick C. Mullis, AFI, CFM made Dec 6 at 2016 8:59 AM

PO2 Rev. Frederick C. Mullis, AFI, CFM — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 08:59:03 -0500

1973 to 1980 Second Generation NAVY, I was taught you wear the Complete Uniform or not at all. The only part of my "uniform" I will wear now that I am out is my flight Jacket with all my Duty patches. and it is usually when I am wearing my American Legion cap at official functions, I do have a full uniform that I will be buried in, but that will be the only time I will be seen in full uniform again. I do wear a ser of miniature ribbons on my Legion ca and a set of Mini Medals that are worn as part of full dress with my wings, but Pieces of the Uniform? NEVER that is disrespectful but I have never said that to any of my Brothers I have seen doing that at the WALL.

Response by SPC David Wyckoff made Dec 6 at 2016 9:01 AM

SPC David Wyckoff — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 09:01:06 -0500

I never wear my uniform or any part of it. If I can't do it the honor of wearing it fully and correctly, then its better to just leave it in the closet. Just my opinion. I don't confront or even look down on vets who do. They have earned the right to wear it.

I do, however, wear t-shirts, hats and apparel. Especially Gruntstyle. It has less to do with the actual saying on it and more to do with me supporting a veteran owned business. Although, I do wear shirts that have specific military acronyms or sayings and other vets have made contact with me because of it. As a small business owner, I am trying to help my brothers and sisters be successful in their venture. If we can't count on each other for real world support, who can we count on?
I'm not particularly thrilled with the DV line of clothing simply because I believe that it perpetuates and reinforces the "crazy old vet" stereotype. The civilian public already views all of us with this lens and we should be trying to engage and educate, not isolate.

But again...

Wear what you want to wear...or don't.

Response by SPC Matthew Birkinbine made Dec 6 at 2016 9:05 AM

SPC Matthew Birkinbine — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 09:05:58 -0500

I think it's individual preference rather than any "generation" of soldier. If you don't plan on wearing your ERB when you get out, then don't. I'm sure it doesn't mean you aren't proud of your service. This' why we have freedom of expression.

Response by CPL Bill Siggelow made Dec 6 at 2016 9:10 AM

CPL Bill Siggelow — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 09:10:54 -0500

I have no issues with anyone wearing parts of their uniform. Personally, I choose not to wear my uniform or parts of it, as I feel it degrades it. I'm not in the shape I was then, and while I still maintain a military hair cut, I have a full on beard. I don't want to look like I live in a van down by the river.
In regards to ball caps and tee shirts, I am fine with that too. I let my actions and words speak for my time in the service. A true veteran can identify another veteran without the need for such trappings.
A good example, in my line of work, I tend to say "Good to Go!" alot, and a person stopped me the other day, and ask if I served. To which I replied "Yes, how did you know?" He responded about the "Good to go" statement.

Response by Sgt Jim Belcher made Dec 6 at 2016 9:12 AM

Sgt Jim Belcher — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 09:12:47 -0500

I served USAF 1976-80. I see you just got out 2013. Perhaps it's generational, but I think it has more to do with how long you have been out of service.

Aside from wearing my stripped field jacket (US Air Force and rank emblems removed) just after I got out, I do not recall wearing anything military related until the mid 1990s, about 15 years after I got out. For me it started when I was attending ship reunions (USS Indianapolis CA-35) with my Dad, a retired CPO in 1995. All those old WWII sailors and marines had been wearing ballcaps and polo shirts with embroidered image and name of their ship, and "Survivor" embroidered across the back of their cap or breast emblem. In honor of my father and his crewmates, I started wearing at reunions the non-Survivor version of their ballcap and shirt, as many family members were encouraged. It was after my father passed in 2001, at a USS Indianapolis reunion event, that I purchased my first US Air Force Veteran ballcap...and in the spirit of my WWII buddies, started adding pins to my cap.

So today I proudly alternate between these two ballcaps, and occasionally wear my USS Indianapolis shirts (no USAF) in public.

I realize my situation might be a little different than the question posed, but I believe at some point 15-20 years after seperation, I would have started wearing some USAF vet apparel. By the way, I ride a Harley and do not share a need to have/wear a vet-patched vest...but that is just me. The cap and American flag work fine.

Response by Sgt Ken Brown made Dec 6 at 2016 9:29 AM

Sgt Ken Brown — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 09:29:18 -0500

Couple of points, we were told, as young men, that our service to our country would be the greatest thing we ever did in our life and for some of us it was. Also some of us served during times when military service was not appreciated by very vocal groups of Americans. I think perhaps we just have a desire to be recognized as vets. I don't think it is a sign of disrespect. I think as you age you may soften your view.

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2016 9:36 AM

CPL Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 09:36:33 -0500

I'm 67 and I started wearing "I'm Proud" a few years ago. When I was discharged in 1971 I didn't feel comfortable advertising my status as a Veteran due to the animosity shown to us by many. As I got older I realized that my serving was one of the best things I ever did, and you bet I'm proud of that, and I wear the shirts etc that say so.

Response by PFC Crystal Sprague made Dec 6 at 2016 9:45 AM

PFC Crystal Sprague — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 09:45:49 -0500

I've noticed that a lot. They look at me like I'm doing too much when I wear my unit patch on my hat or my "grunt style" t-shirt. I wondered if it was because there were more people that teased you for being "too proud" than there were people who were appreciative so it made it not worth your effort. My family however, assume that I came home thinking I was better than them and when I wore my gear or apparel it was me just rubbing it in their face that I was more impressive. I've tried to let them know I'm just proud of myself and my accomplishments but I've gone to just wearing civis to save myself the energy.

Response by SPC Steven Depuy made Dec 6 at 2016 10:04 AM

SPC Steven Depuy — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 10:04:33 -0500

When I got out, most of us never wanted to wear anything to do with the military again. Some time around 40, I started to think about it, and seek out others I served with, I think it was mid age crisis. Then my son went to Iraq, did a combat tour, made me realize my 3 years in West Germany drinking beer and running to the red light district in Frankfurt twice a month were on a different level, at least in my mind, I don't put that on others, so I put my veteran stuff away again.

Response by SN Keagan Miller made Dec 6 at 2016 10:15 AM

SN Keagan Miller — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 10:15:54 -0500

As a recently separated vet who works with homeless and recovering vets from every era, I can see your point, but who knows how you will feel as time passes like them? Especially the people who don't have much in the civilian world, being in the military may have been the only time they really felt proud, so they want to enjoy the communal bond of being a vet. It's funny to me how regardless of what branch we were in we still have that camaraderie even when we are poking fun at each branch.

Response by Capt Tf Sinclair made Dec 6 at 2016 10:43 AM

Capt Tf Sinclair — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 10:43:29 -0500

I just wear an old BDU cap, I like it.

Response by PO3 Tracy Sefcik made Dec 6 at 2016 11:02 AM

PO3 Tracy Sefcik — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:02:47 -0500

I wear my ball cap from my 1st duty station in Yokosuka. On the USS Kittanning YTB787. It seems different for females, people look at us differently when we wear military hats or shirts.

Response by SFC (Retired) Efrain Hernandez made Dec 6 at 2016 11:05 AM

SFC (Retired) Efrain Hernandez — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:05:05 -0500

If You can't be proud of what you do, and respect what you do how will others have pride in our country or respect you?
I don't agree with slander tshirts, but your Branch of service, or just a sign of what you do is cool.
Only 1% have a job like you do in the military . Im retired, and now a Police officer and just recently started wearing my thin blue mine apparel. Who cares what people think, its what you feel that counts.

Response by PO3 John Ramirez made Dec 6 at 2016 11:05 AM

PO3 John Ramirez — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:05:21 -0500

We don't wear it for civilian adulation.
We wear it so that we can shot whoever
Each other.
Regardless of branch of service, we are a brotherhood.
I've had many a great conversation because I was spotted by another vet our because another vet spotted me.

If you're ashamed our embarrassed, don't wear it.
Those who wear our colors with pride won't mind.

Response by SFC (Retired) Efrain Hernandez made Dec 6 at 2016 11:05 AM

SFC (Retired) Efrain Hernandez — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:05:48 -0500

Response by SGM Douglas Lack made Dec 6 at 2016 11:23 AM

SGM Douglas Lack — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:23:21 -0500

I have 3 comments. 1. I work with the homeless and some of them wear patches etc. they did not earn. That upsets me but often their mental status is such they do not have a clue what they are doing. I suggest saying something and see what their reaction is. If they understand what they are doing I feel free to get in their face. If they have mental issues generally you might as well tell it to a tree, they will not get it. If counselling is available you might try that. 2. If they did earn it but have let the patches etc. get dirty, ragged or in disrepair tell them it is time to replace them. 3. If they have earned them and take of them let them wear them with pride.

Response by PO3 David Smith made Dec 6 at 2016 11:28 AM

PO3 David Smith — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:28:23 -0500

I'm an older veteran (Nam). I know of no one from that era that would disrespect the uniform in any way. That uniform is a source of pride for me. Right or wrong, I did what was asked of me and I'm proud of it.
Having said that, are you SURE they were veterans? There are scammers out there seeking unearned admiration, and there are people who will do almost anything to show their dislike (at best) and hate (at worst) of America (watched any of the flag burnings or flags at half mast after the election?)
So where there may be some disillusioned, misguided vets, unless you've talked to them or asked to see their D214, they may be the anarchists.

Response by SGT David T. made Dec 6 at 2016 11:31 AM

SGT David T. — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 11:31:39 -0500

I don't typically advertise being a vet around other in public. I do have a couple of Grunt Style shirts, but I bought the ones with crazy graphics on them and aren't really screaming "oh look at me I'm a vet" (awesome shirts by the way very comfy lol). The only uniform related things I wear are an old PT shirt with the sleeves cut off when I mow the grass (call it a small act of defiance) and a pair of boots I wear for yard work. I personally don't knock those who openly advertise it, as that is their choice (although hearing the word hooah drives me insane). I think anyone who knocks someone for showing pride is trying to cover up their own insecurities.

Response by SSG Frederick Sargent made Dec 6 at 2016 12:05 PM

SSG Frederick Sargent — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:05:41 -0500

I feel odd wearing such things. But my daughter bought me a Ret. Army Cap and I promised to wear it on weekends.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2016 12:18 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:18:43 -0500

There was about 2 decades where you did not see anywhere as much pride on display. The Vietnam War left a huge negative impression on society as a whole. Then 9/11 happened. The amount of pride that was suddenly on display did not increase 10 fold, it increased 100 fold! I think a lot has to do with society as a whole, the pressures it brings to bear, and the effects it has on veterans. We are, once again, on that steep downward spiral into the thought that Veteran's suck, you are all baby killers, why would you ever want to shoot *anyone*?! I see it in the slow creep of less patriotic wear of clothing, see it as anti-military statements by uneducated masses of "young-uns", and the quite leaving of too many veterans from service.

Response by SPC John Waisman made Dec 6 at 2016 12:31 PM

SPC John Waisman — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:31:40 -0500

I'm a member of Amvets and I would occasionally wear the hat. A friend pointed out that people who promote their veteran status in public don't necessarily seem all that psychologically balanced. I more or less quit wearing the hat. Now I wear an old black baseball cap with university letters on it that you can't make out from more than a few feet away.

Response by LT Michael Watson made Dec 6 at 2016 12:53 PM

LT Michael Watson — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 12:53:54 -0500

If you are still on active duty, why wear anything that appears to be veteran oriented. If one is a veteran, separated from the service, it shows association and/or pride in that service. I read this as to ridicule my wearing my Navy ball cap, or one of my jackets that project pride in my service. Remember, there are those who went before you, and their perceptions have changed over time.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2016 1:02 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500

Then there are those that wear Tapout shirts and axe body spray...

Response by Sgt Diane Nicoloff made Dec 6 at 2016 1:29 PM

Sgt Diane Nicoloff — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 13:29:59 -0500

I wear t-shirts that support the Military and reflect that I am Veteran. I buy my husband a lot more of these t-shirts than I buy for myself. I order from places like Ranger UP and Nine Line Apparel and other Veteran owed businesses, it supports Veteran based businesses and reflects our Military pride. There is nothing wrong with that. We get stopped a lot by other Veterans who will comment on our shirts. I do not wear parts of my uniform though, but depending on what it is I do not mind to see others do that, things like Organizational and Command ball caps, BDU pants and BDU jackets do not bother me, but I do not like to see people wear parts of dress uniforms with civilian clothes. I will say that once you get out of the Military your perspective does change, will you are serving there is a rivalry with other services, but once you get out or retire, you tend to appreciate all Veterans regardless of what branch they served in. So I like it when other Veterans approach us and tell us they like our t-shirts or ask where we got them from and we usually swap a few stories.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2016 1:38 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 13:38:32 -0500

I just got this for my husband for Christmas... Is he going to hate it? He was 11B and has been out for almost 15 years. I wanted to get one that said Infantry, but they didn't have his size. Thoughts?

Response by PO3 Peter Lothrop made Dec 6 at 2016 1:41 PM

PO3 Peter Lothrop — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 13:41:21 -0500

Are you saying that your generation looks down on being a veteran? If that is the case what are you ashamed of? If for some reason you or as you say your generation is looking down on veteran apparel or other veterans for wearing veteran apparel I would say you need to take a good look in the mirror and ask yourself why are you ashamed of being a veteran?

Being a veteran is something that you should be proud of. It is something only a select group of people can say they are! Yes there are vets who were drafted and some of those guys are not proud of their service. Many of them may have a sore spot for the military and that would be understandable because they did NOT volunteer.

The rest of us served because we wanted to serve so to me it makes no sense to be ashamed of that or to look down on it. After all no one was twisting your arm to join, so there must have been a good reason you joined the service or you would not be a veteran in the first place!

If you are looking down on other vets for wearing something or showing their pride in being a vet you really need to look at yourself and ask why you feel that way because being a veteran is something to be proud of!!

I do not wear my uniforms but I do wear tee shirts that say I am a proud veteran, or shirts that display the branches of the service that I served in. I happen to have served in both the US Navy and the US Air Force reserve so I happen to be a veteran from both services.

If you are a veteran be proud of that you did something that a lot of other people did not have the guts to do!!

Response by GySgt Kenneth Pepper made Dec 6 at 2016 2:11 PM

GySgt Kenneth Pepper — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 14:11:56 -0500

I will use my old utilities for hunting and such, sans name tapes and rank insignia, but wearing a partial uniform to a Veteran's Day event is tacky, in my opinion. I have noticed that I have acquired quite a collection of USMC T-shirts/hoodies and caps. I guess the farther removed you are the better the memories are. You stop thinking about the really sucky times, or maybe the sting has dulled over time. Or maybe I just choose to forget the bad times and cherish the good. Who knows, another 10 years I may "that guy" in walking around in a Dress Blues and flip flops.

Response by MAJ Raymond Brooks made Dec 6 at 2016 2:25 PM

MAJ Raymond Brooks — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 14:25:33 -0500

I still wear my green Class A uniform on Veterans Day and Memorial Day. Most other days, I will just wear a hat with the 25th Infantry pin. I live out in the middle of flyover country, and the folks around here have a real place in their hearts for All verterans, and they like to see us in our gear, be it a Class A or just a field jacket.

Response by MAJ Norm Michaels made Dec 6 at 2016 2:25 PM

MAJ Norm Michaels — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 14:25:55 -0500

It may partially be an age thing. I just turned 62, and this age, we tend to start reflecting on our lives. Right around 60 or so, I started wearing my Gulf War Veteran hat a few days per week. I also started putting pins on my John Deere hats, etc. I have different moods, so sometimes I wear my old SP5 rank on my John Deere hat, sometimes a SSG rank, and sometimes a Major Rank. I may wear pins from different units I was in (e.g. 82nd Airborne). Now that I fully retired, I can reflect on my life's accomplishments. My 20 years in the Army was a major accomplishment for me. I worked as a government contractor for the next 20 years, and I downplayed my military time as much as possible; it was their time in the light, not mine. It really did irritate me when some people put in their signature block on their emails, John Doe, Col, Ret. Talk about being in denial that their military time is over... :-). Well, mine is over; however, I do enjoy the memories. Many of my mates and I stay in contact via Facebook. I even went down to spend a week with my old Platoon Sergeant from 1982, when I was a 2LT. We are friends to this day.

Response by LTC George Morgan made Dec 6 at 2016 3:18 PM

LTC George Morgan — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 15:18:06 -0500

No uniform of what ever force should be worn unless complete in all aspects. The only exception to this I would say is a beret, or Veterans Military Organization i.e. American Legion/VFW etc., head-wear. Worn with a blazer and gray slacks, shoes shined, thus respectful of the service in which you served. Jeans and a leather bikers outfit does little to honor our fallen comrades.
On the Sunday closest to Memorial Day & Veterans Day I continue to wear Mess Kit and shall do until it no longer fits. I decommissioned in 1983 and I do not feel that proper respect is shown at some events. When I first moved to Augusta, GA I attended a Veterans day service at a local Cemetery; I was appalled to see many Vets keeping their cover on throughout the service.
SGT Suraj Dave, I commend your observation in this matter.

Response by 1stSgt Nelson Kerr made Dec 6 at 2016 3:39 PM

1stSgt Nelson Kerr — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 15:39:21 -0500

It was common in the late 60 and Early 70s

Response by MAJ James Woods made Dec 6 at 2016 3:44 PM

MAJ James Woods — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 15:44:12 -0500

Some of us Vets can't wear the old uniform anymore; PT was last on my mind once I got out. But if I can don my Cav Stetson with 7th Cav on it to show my patriotism as an event, I plan to do so. I will say I've seen something very distasteful shirts out there that try to make patriotism funny. That I frown upon.

Response by SPC Ben Henley made Dec 6 at 2016 4:43 PM

SPC Ben Henley — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 16:43:13 -0500

I don't think that what you are feeling is not new to your generation. I can remember my dad didn't have a lot of his things from the Army or clothing to show he was a Vietnam Vet. As he got older, he began to collect it. I thought it was dumb for him to do this. When I went from being out to going in the USNR I bought one bumper sticker and one window sticker to show I had served with the 11th ACR. I never did put them on my car. Now that I am older I will wear some things that show my career field and I have a few hats and a watch cap I don't really wear. As we age we look to our youth and sometimes the feeling of family we had when we served. Another thing that happens is many older vets know that they are nearing the end of their watch and want to remember their youth with a fondness you will not understand until you are older. They often forget the long hours, the horrible duties, the bad Officers, NCO's, and enlisted they worked with, but they focus on the ones who were there and helped them. They remember the friendships, the beers, the ugly girls, and the deployment the way they want to. Give them respect, they paved the way for us, and we paved the way for you. When you see them, say, "Hello." Look at some of them the way you want your children to see you. As great men showing great pride not for being heroes, but walking with them.

Response by CPO Mike Castro made Dec 6 at 2016 4:47 PM

CPO Mike Castro — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 16:47:58 -0500

I wear my Boatswain Mate ring I got from Mary Sue in Hong Kong. Traded old mooring line and spent 5"shells for it. Everyone in the Division got one Chief set it up. When it's cold enough I break out my bridge coat. Other than that nothing, I do however wear a lot of VFW stuff. I'm the District Service Officer, finding Veterans to help is more important to me.

Response by PVT Mark Brown made Dec 6 at 2016 5:46 PM

PVT Mark Brown — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 17:46:27 -0500

Back in the 60's and 70's I broke starch when or where ever possible. When out in the field I would find a local that was willing to do my laundry. If you want starch you can have starch. Maybe starch is not much of an issue these days, I don't know. IS IT?

Response by PVT Mark Brown made Dec 6 at 2016 5:47 PM

PVT Mark Brown — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 17:47:40 -0500

Although I have to admit rice paddies and monsoons do raise hell with starch.

Response by SSgt Phil Aiken made Dec 6 at 2016 6:10 PM

SSgt Phil Aiken — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 18:10:41 -0500

My field jacket still works, no reason to buy another coat. Clowned on by another veteran, that's business as usual, another vet has the right.

Response by SCPO Lonny Randolph made Dec 6 at 2016 6:13 PM

SCPO Lonny Randolph — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 18:13:48 -0500

I wear my SCPO rank device on my ball caps. I earned my rank and I am proud of it...

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2016 6:56 PM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 18:56:08 -0500

I rarely see it but if I did I wouldn't say anything unless they were obviously bringing discredit upon the uniform or unit, and even then would be hesitant. The rest is their business and not mine. It's different when still serving because you're close to the flagpole. There you have folks enforcing regulations because they are duty-bound, which is fine as long as they're professional about it. If I do see someone much older that has served in WWII, Korea, or Viet Nam I try to shake their hand and thank them when I can. I think we've all learned to show respect for old folks from a profession where many die young.

Response by SPC Jasen E. made Dec 6 at 2016 8:01 PM

SPC Jasen E. — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 20:01:16 -0500

I personally don't have a problem with it. Most veterans I see wearing veteran apparel are wearing uniforms that are no long on active duty. ie wearing a BDU jacket with blue jeans. BDUs are no longer an official uniform and I think people should be allowed to wear them how they want so long as it is not blatant disrespect. I don't think wearing a BDU jacket with blue jeans is disrespect, but rather nostalgic. It doesn't bother me. I would suggest to people not to wear the current issued uniforms with civilian attire as they are just that, an issued uniform, official to their respective services. I have my old BDUs and I think it's nobody's business what I do with them so long as it is not in an attempt to show disrespect.

Response by SPC Brian Stephens made Dec 6 at 2016 8:01 PM

SPC Brian Stephens — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 20:01:45 -0500

Likely just your generation. I pack my U.S. Army/Artillery baseball caps all the time. Plus, if it is a plain fleece, I pin artillery cannons, the U.S. Army seal, and a brass rank in a straight row just below the zipper. I have an artillery T-Shirt and a hoodie. I left the army in 1991. I am a CPA now but the Army? Being with my guys in the field and in Crete- best job I ever had. I have pride in my three years.

I envy those who can still fit into their old uniforms. That ain't me. I always wanted to be bigger than I was when I was in and now I am DEFINITELY bigger.

Response by LTC John Shaw made Dec 6 at 2016 8:19 PM

LTC John Shaw — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 20:19:46 -0500

It looks like no one is directly addressing your point, you sounds as if you would be embarrassed to wear a veteran type of shirt, that is your cynical generational influence operating on your cranial head space. However, the opinion is caused by both generational and duty based influences.

BLUF: It as a generational thing as millennials are culturally cynical and don't value large group dynamics unless it falls into the 'favored' political flavor. My 18 year old son, who does not value my military experience, looks at a veteran shirt as 'lame' and me gluming onto the Army and veterans as a social groupthink to benefit by government benefits, discounts and other corporate crap. He doesn't understand the 'earned it' part of the picture and he may never get it.

Another observations is when you are on active duty, it doesn't occur to you to wear veteran apparel, what is the point?, most your stuff is service related. I have been in 30 years and could have worn veteran gear after my first year long deployment but it does not occur to me to purchase it. That said when I do punch out, I will be happy to purchase an Army Veteran whatever.

Let me know if I got it right in your mind, I want to understand the newest soldiers and my son's and daughter's mindset.
And...don't be afraid to wear your veteran items with pride and tell your friends to eat $hit, you earned it.

Response by LTC Jesse Edwards made Dec 6 at 2016 8:38 PM

LTC Jesse Edwards — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 20:38:36 -0500

I'm 59 and been out about 6 1/2 years. I still take all the uniform restrictions seriously so I don't mix and match my clothing. It seems like the guys doing that are Vietnam era. They've had a unique experience as veterans. There wasn't a "Thank you for your service" culture. I can imagine that wearing part of the uniform has a different meaning to them than it does to me.

Response by SSG Wayne Wood made Dec 6 at 2016 8:56 PM

SSG Wayne Wood — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 20:56:35 -0500

I came in at the tail-end of Vietnam and barely missed going myself. My dad and older brother served there though and I caught it at the civilian schools I attended when Dad was over there. I was called a "Baby Killer" at JFK as late as 77 when I came home on leave in uniform from Germany. Then in the 80s we were told the only reason we were in the service was because we couldn't get a job on the outside (proved that wrong when I got out on a medical some years later, but I digress...). So, no, when I first got out I didn't represent much.

Then a few years back my stepmother bought me an 82nd Abn Division hat (where I spent most of my career); at first I was reluctant to wear it, but when your Mama gets you a present... besides, I figure folks wear all kinds of hats advertising products they might or might not use, sports teams, and college teams for schools they may or my not have gone to or played for. Why SHOULDN'T I wear the colors of the team I played for?

And you know the great thing about it? Wearing that hat I've met some fellow vets and we've had the greatest time sharing or just shaking hands and exchanging units or times we served. It's been great. Every now and then I get thanks (that's embarrassing), or a funny look (probably from someone who didn't serve).

So wear your John Deere hats, your Bama, San Francisco or whatever, I'll represent MY team and if someone doesn't like it, it's like what they say in Russia -TUFFSKI! ;-)

Response by LCpl William Perry made Dec 6 at 2016 9:16 PM

LCpl William Perry — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 21:16:12 -0500

I have been out for 30 years but I do not mind any apparel that supports our service and what it stands for. I take pride in my service and would not have any problem wearing a Corps apparel or any thing supporting POW and for those that we will not forget that have given their all. The only time I hate it is during stolen valor!

Response by PVT William Bresch made Dec 6 at 2016 9:42 PM

PVT William Bresch — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 21:42:52 -0500

Ah, I dont even wear my uniform anymore, much less go to the rallies. its pointless, I mean with the way, vets are getting treated nowadays, why even go.

Response by SPC Chris Williams made Dec 6 at 2016 10:13 PM

SPC Chris Williams — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 22:13:33 -0500

Lol, maybe you should take a trip to your local V.A. hospital. There definitely no shortage of military pride there. My problem is usually which cap to wear either 1stCav,3rd I.D. or just a veteran cap use to wear field jacket but it like a lot of veterans basic issue has shrunk. Lol

Response by SPC Chris Williams made Dec 6 at 2016 10:17 PM

SPC Chris Williams — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 22:17:11 -0500

Go to your local V.A hospital multiple branches ,divisions and units are proudly displayed there.

Response by SPC Byron Skinner made Dec 6 at 2016 10:34 PM

SPC Byron Skinner — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 22:34:24 -0500

Sp4 Byron Skinner…I'm with you Sgt Dave. I took off my uniform on February 15th. 1967 and that part of my life was over. I do wear Regimental shirts at our annual reunions and have a hat my son gave me "Dysfunctional Veteran." I wear it when I go out, people seem to like it. The guys and now gals who parade around in uniform parts with badges and medals are not to my taste but I would be the last to say they couldn't do it. Men and women who represent only .04 of their generation have my respect and if after service they want to tell those who didn't go to jam it up their six, who and I to say they are out of order. Coming from a member of a generation of Veterans that were disgraced and abused by the general public I have some ideas of their feelings…Regardless of what the popular opinion is, its a very special person (male or female) that at 03:00 dismount and go up to a building and knock on the door then break it down. They have my true admiration. That takes a level of courage that the other 99.6% of you generation can only fantasize about…I also think that females who go out n these raids regardless of their MOS should be awarded the CIB.

Response by CPL Donald McKenna made Dec 6 at 2016 11:41 PM

CPL Donald McKenna — Tue, 06 Dec 2016 23:41:55 -0500

I still wear my boots, and occasionally my field jacket with patches when the weather is chilly (a bit snugger than it was 10 years ago). I have several service related t shirts, but I wear my ball cap most of the time.

I always figured the stereotypical ball cap with a dozen assorted pins on it was an "Old Man" kind of thing, and here I am at 52 doing the same thing.

Response by PV2 Anthony Bembenek made Dec 7 at 2016 12:38 AM

PV2 Anthony Bembenek — Wed, 07 Dec 2016 00:38:47 -0500

Do not knock Grunt Style. The Drill Sergeant rocks. I have a few hoodies and shirts. Though I wore military apparel since a child.
I am a Navy Brat, and proud of it. My Dad only went to one of my little league games. He is a Nam vet. I remember the protesters at the gates on our way to pick him up and drop him off. He was not allowed to wear his uniform at times, for his own saftey. A good friend of his did 6 tours in Nam came home without a scratch and a bunch of peace loving hippies beat him so bad he was in the hospital for 6 months. These were some reasons I and my siblings always wore military memorabilia. While civilians families looked down on us, we were proud of our hero.
Used to spend weekends on the USS Dyess on occasion. They would give my brother and I headsets so we could plug in and talk to each other as we ran rampant about that Tin Can. Always ended up in 5" turret. Played in the Jap mini sub at Groton Naval Station. Military memorabilia has been a part of my life since I can remember. When I was 6, I was bouncing quarters of my bed, got that from a movie. Always had models of aircraft and tanks(Panzers). I have aircraft dogfighting hanging from cieling.

Response by Cpl Vic Eizenga made Dec 7 at 2016 1:09 AM

Cpl Vic Eizenga — Wed, 07 Dec 2016 01:09:39 -0500

as to wearing parts of the uniform I don't know any that have. BUT A lot of us never got to show any pride of service when we got out. not if we wanted to work. I got out in 1968 and did not feel safe saying I was a Marine until 1985. So yes I wear a vest with Marine Corps EGA on the back I have a EGA in the Back window of my car. I am proud of the fact that the Vietnam veterans made sure you never had to go through some of the things we did.

Response by SSgt Jim Gilmore made Dec 7 at 2016 3:10 AM

SSgt Jim Gilmore — Wed, 07 Dec 2016 03:10:20 -0500

My generation was dumped on, to be polite, when we returned from Vietnam. We did not come home to cheering crowds and ticker tape parades. We came home to punk ass bastards calling us baby killers, spitting on us and God knows what all else we endured. when I do wear my ball caps or other items, I do so as a reminder of what I endured as well as my fellow veterans of Vietnam. I do it to remind people of how we were dumped on by our own.

I still have my old OD field jacket with the blue name tapes and SAC shield like MSgt Richard Randall. Like him mine too had shrunk. I know what I did, HELL, we all know what we did and Like many others am proud of my service. If someone comes up to me and gives me a ration over what I am wearing you can expect to discover what the inside of a can o' whoop ass looks like. I may be older and I may not win that fight but that is an ass kicking I will have to take. You will not diss me anymore nor my fellow veterans and expect no retaliation.

Response by SP5 Steven Doyle made Dec 7 at 2016 5:25 AM

SP5 Steven Doyle — Wed, 07 Dec 2016 05:25:08 -0500

I wear something from grunt Style almost everyday. Anybody with the balls to say something negative is asking for a throat punched. If you earned it, be proud of it. If you didn't then you've got whatever happens coming to you.

Response by LCpl Doug Welling made Dec 7 at 2016 7:26 AM

LCpl Doug Welling — Wed, 07 Dec 2016 07:26:20 -0500

I personally do not, would not wear uniform pieces, field jackets, etc. I do, however, proudly wear various t-shirts, ball caps, and patches displayed on my motorcycle vest which depict my pride in and for my service to this nation as a USMC combat veteran. I wasn't ashamed of my service in Vietnam, I was not ashamed to be associated with the military at a time when such association was not looked on favorably by far too many people in this country. I am not in your face with my pride in having served with the finest bunch of young men I ever knew, but I am not hesitant to wear my colors so to speak when and where I choose. Maybe it's something that comes with age, but then again, Once a Marine Always a Marine. Semper Fi.

Response by SGT Frank Leonardo made Dec 7 at 2016 8:29 AM

SGT Frank Leonardo — Wed, 07 Dec 2016 08:29:50 -0500

I wear Iraq vet hats, WWP shirts, my American legion Post shirt, dog tags,

Response by SP5 Edwin Overstreet made Dec 7 at 2016 10:30 AM

SP5 Edwin Overstreet — Wed, 07 Dec 2016 10:30:35 -0500

I can't speak for any but myself but I am a Viet Vet, in country 66-67 and until the last couple of years wouldn't even consider identifying myself as such. I guess I thought of those who did wear Vet stuff as being in need of recognition for something and I didn't need it. Now, at age 70 I see it in a different light. We did it and we are proud of it ! We don't care if Joe Public likes it or not and mostly it isn't for him anyway, it's for our brothers .

Response by CSM Andrew Perrault made Dec 7 at 2016 5:09 PM

CSM Andrew Perrault — Wed, 07 Dec 2016 17:09:32 -0500

I wear my Desert Storm ball cap all the time. Be proud of your service.

Response by MSgt Wayne Morris made Dec 7 at 2016 5:36 PM

MSgt Wayne Morris — Wed, 07 Dec 2016 17:36:15 -0500

I for one don't wear it or even a hat (hate hats) but have no beef with those who do. I loved my military career but when I hung up my uniform for the last time I moved on.

Response by PVT Rodney Hollar made Dec 7 at 2016 8:57 PM

PVT Rodney Hollar — Wed, 07 Dec 2016 20:57:12 -0500

I have served twice Army reserves and Active. I have several brothers and sisters that are the same of me and proud of our service and those who have served and we are proud to represent our colors. However I have noticed that there those who served for the benefits and the extras. I believe that if in your heart you are a soldier, sailor, marine, airmen, or coast guardsmen you wear your colors and don't care what others think because our colors represent those who have served are serving and those who will. I am sure y'all know what I mean we have all served with the ones who were there for the money or something else. I am a service technician in the civilian world and I wear my cover every day and I see more older vets appreciating the fact that even though I am out I am still proud of my colors hell our colors

Response by SSG Jeffrey Monk made Dec 7 at 2016 9:09 PM

SSG Jeffrey Monk — Wed, 07 Dec 2016 21:09:48 -0500

I'd say for most it comes after getting out. We use to make fun of others in the platoon, heaven forbid if you were caught with a hat with Jump wings on it. After we all got out, specially us Combat Infantryman try to make it a point we stand out in pride. Hell I'm proud that my sister is Air Force and has as much time in combat zones as I did so I have a bumper sticker on my car that proudly proclaims my Sister Is In The Air Force. My mom still keeps a 1st ID sticker on her car from her years stationed at Ft Riley and my dad is still modest of his service but very proud of my Sister Beth and my accomplishments.

Response by SFC Mike Melara made Dec 8 at 2016 2:12 AM

SFC Mike Melara — Thu, 08 Dec 2016 02:12:29 -0500

I believe it is way of still showing their pride in their service even though they are no longer on active duty. Special occasions like Veterans Day provides a chance to show what they accomplished while on Active/Reserve/Guard duty. Shirt tops display rank, ribbons, badges and branch of service. I Do the same thing. We were veterans then, now and forever will be.

Response by CWO3 Dave Alcantara made Dec 8 at 2016 7:11 AM

CWO3 Dave Alcantara — Thu, 08 Dec 2016 07:11:45 -0500

I have clean unit ball caps from all my old duty stations that I wear occasionally. And have a few veterans t-shirts.

But I am old and greying, so my give a $hit meter about what other folks think about what I wear doesn't move off of zero much.

Response by SFC Tom Carey made Dec 8 at 2016 7:47 AM

SFC Tom Carey — Thu, 08 Dec 2016 07:47:17 -0500

I believe that's up to the individual. When I retired, I retired my uniform! I don't wear other apparel that indicates my service, either. I served because I enjoyed serving because I felt obligated to. I find it very awkward when someone thanks me for my service--though I do appreciate it at same time.

Response by PO2 Kristy Williams made Dec 8 at 2016 8:17 AM

PO2 Kristy Williams — Thu, 08 Dec 2016 08:17:41 -0500

I like some of the veteran shirts. It just shows you're proud of being a veteran. Being clowned by another veteran is fine- that's what families do.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 8 at 2016 3:45 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Dec 2016 15:45:27 -0500

SGT Suraj Dave Well, welcome Suraj. Were you promoted to SGT not to long ago? This topic really aggravates me. If an older veteran is sitting in a VA waiting area. The family leaves then there and I go and let him talk. So if, a veteran is sheepish, let's not have false modesty. The acknowledgements are as much for those veterans whose bodies lying on some beach. And the crippled and in firmed. Do not diminish that with fake modesty, and when they say they are not the heroes, he is right. But as a man who helped change the world of communism. I know the cook, the AGEs, doctors nurses and supply people. They made a difference. So, yes, all are heroes, though inside, we just thanks. Not for us, but for them. I am 60 now. Good heavens! But I so respect the older warrior and we are surrogate in many senses. So, it all comes around, as I turning 61 in February. I got to live among Germans, Iranians and so forth. I am blessed and honored to be hear, in relatively good shape. All thanks to God.

Response by PO3 Peter Carr made Dec 8 at 2016 7:56 PM

PO3 Peter Carr — Thu, 08 Dec 2016 19:56:44 -0500

The way I approach this is perhaps a little bit different than some others. First and foremost I wear Navy or veteran related clothing and hats because when I was discharged (active duty from 2000 until 2004) I didn't stop being a sailor, that was and always will be a part of who I am, a part of my identity so to speak. I like to be able to identify other veterans, it tells me that this person and I have something in common.

I do not wear any uniform items that have name or rank patches on them. An example of a uniform item I wear is the standard Navy Peacoat. I don't have an issue with anyone doing similar, as long as name, rank and unit names have been removed. This is what Navy regs allow. I guess this is proof that I like to do things the right way. I find that there is less chance of having to go back and do things over.

Response by SSG Richard Hackwith made Dec 8 at 2016 11:06 PM

SSG Richard Hackwith — Thu, 08 Dec 2016 23:06:42 -0500

In my case it changed with age. I was active duty 1954-68. Then was on again off again reserve and NG till 1987. But I never really started wearing any veteran apparel till about seven years ago. But only on occasions and trips to the VA clinic. Just wear a cap and I'm fixing up a tanker's jacket, also I have some tanker boots, that I might not be able to wear due some foot problems.

Response by SFC Dan Garcia made Dec 8 at 2016 11:24 PM

SFC Dan Garcia — Thu, 08 Dec 2016 23:24:55 -0500

I read all these comments made, and its hard to understand why we have so many people that complains about little issues like somebody trying to represent their service by wearing a uniform pieces. At least we have Veterans that have served that still have pride instead of turning against the service. I have retired, and still have my class A Uniform hanging in my closet in plastic, So when I do die I will be put to rest in my class A uniform . It has been my honor to serve 21 Years with out collecting any disabilities " Knock on wood", and to this Day I still support the Army . even though I now serve as a contractor in Iraq, Afghanistan, and now at Kuwait with my fellow soldiers. I thank them everyday and share my experience with them. I also have son's in the service which they have bought me a cap that reads ( Retired us Army) . I want to thank All Veteran's your service, and to all who is serving now.
"God bless you and Happy Holidays"

Response by MSgt Thomas Welch made Dec 12 at 2016 9:50 AM

MSgt Thomas Welch — Mon, 12 Dec 2016 09:50:56 -0500

I still wear my Gortex coat and pants when hunting. And one old OD field jacket, which may fit one arm. My ABU pants work fairly well for hunting too. But I would feel out of place in any of my Blues

Response by Sgt Janice Timoney made Dec 15 at 2016 8:19 PM

Sgt Janice Timoney — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 20:19:46 -0500

Took me many years after getting out to wear anything like "pride apparel." Not that I'm not proud of my service but I thought it was a goofy thing to do. You served, you did your job, you got out and got a different job. And then.... age set in....LOL! Now I find it SO fun to talk with other Marines of all generations and am thrilled when someone gives me a Semper Fi. I especially like to welcome home a Vietnam Vets. And if you can catch a Korean in-country Vet, or WW2 Sailor to talk to? Wow...the stories are amazing and sometimes humorous. But you'll only know by that hat or that tattoo or that jacket -otherwise the stories disappear with them. I hate to tell you, Dave, but you may find you change your mind as the wrinkles set in because it's then that you begin to miss the old days and look for some form of community with other Vets who "get it."

Response by SGT Todd Miller made Dec 16 at 2016 12:05 PM

SGT Todd Miller — Fri, 16 Dec 2016 12:05:19 -0500

I am proud of my service and my family's service in generations past. I never wear any of my Army uniform with any civilian clothing. It's disrespectful. I like some of the veteran clothing if tasteful. I like to let people know that I served once, that I'm proud of my service, and that I'm still serving this country in a different capacity today. Veterans are everywhere and a lot harder to spot on the block.

Response by SSG Ray Elliott made Dec 22 at 2016 4:47 PM

SSG Ray Elliott — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 16:47:52 -0500

To each his own. If you want to wear veteran apparel or not your decision. I wear my field jacket to shovel snow etc. outside around the house. I rarely wear veterans apparel to non veteran functions because the "Thank yous for your service" (although well meant) make me a little uncomfortable. I've been retired for quite a while now, and at 56 I'm not a young vet anymore, but don't consider myself an oldtimer either. I don't look down on anyone who chooses to wear veterans apparel (unless they didn't earn the right to do so), it just isn't my thing.

Response by SSG Bill Ploof made Dec 27 at 2016 9:06 AM

SSG Bill Ploof — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 09:06:26 -0500

I am retired and proud. I am not afraid to show it. I do still have my field jacket that I wear sometime. And I wear an Army Retired cap. I do not wear partial uniforms. I have worn my dress uniform twice since I retired. When both my Son and Daughter were commissioned. I think you can show you are a Veteran without wearing cut up uniforms

Response by Cpl John Mathews made Dec 28 at 2016 2:45 PM

Cpl John Mathews — Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:45:45 -0500

My understanding is that USMC regulations prohibit the wearing of the uniform, unless it can be worn in a manner completely consistent with curent regs (including hair). Wearing arecognizable part of the uniform would be a violation. Exception is for mounted miniature medals that can be worn on the jacket during formal occasions such as weddings and funerals.

As far as I am concerned those regulations are in force as they are written to include veterans. I note that many Vietnam vets wear field jackets with ribbons etc., but I haven't noticed it among younger or older vets.

I am more likely to wear a USMC t-shirt or sweatshirt.

Response by SPC David Radford made Dec 28 at 2016 9:02 PM

SPC David Radford — Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:02:35 -0500

I think it's pride in your country and also pride in our service to our country, every soldier has paid a price that a civilian will find it hard to understand! I think it should be done respectfully .
I will say one thing I can't tell you how many soldiers got chewed out for wearing there hat backwards and to this day it still bothers me to see a hat wore like that!
Some things are just imbedded into your DNA I guess

Response by PO2 Rev. Frederick C. Mullis, AFI, CFM made Dec 29 at 2016 3:42 PM

PO2 Rev. Frederick C. Mullis, AFI, CFM — Thu, 29 Dec 2016 15:42:23 -0500

AS Second generation NAVY, I have never shied away from wearing any type of cap or shirt that illustrates my connection to the NAVY or to my Ship or Squadron. I do not wear any part of my Uniform, as it is safely packed away so it is ready for me to be buried in. I do however wear my miniature Medals when in full dress for the American Legion and I have miniature ribbons on my Legion cap and my 40 & 8 Chapeau. I have been out since 1980.

Response by SSgt Michael Cox made Jan 4 at 2017 11:04 AM

SSgt Michael Cox — Wed, 04 Jan 2017 11:04:25 -0500

Now this is just my personal view but a log of those veterans you see wearing their field jackets/parkas are actually homeless veterans and that is their only coat. I see them all the time in my job as an outreach navigator.

As for myself personally I do have an AF hat with my OIF Medal with my tour years and two shirts with my aircraft on them. Other than that I just have my pull over with the Washington Department of Veterans Affairs on it since they are my employer. I also see a log of veterans 30+ that have been out of a year or more wearing veteran shirts and hats on campus and especially at the VA Medical Center.

Response by MAJ William Weathers made Jan 10 at 2017 8:20 AM

MAJ William Weathers — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 08:20:57 -0500

Picking on your cohort group is neither new nor unique. That's normal. I've been out for a couple of years and still give my peer group hell when I run across them. The "teasing" is rarely about clothes.
People are going to wear what pleases them. Let them. Who cares?

Response by SP5 Robert Ruck made Jan 10 at 2017 10:47 AM

SP5 Robert Ruck — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:47:28 -0500

I can speak only for myself on this issue. During the Vietnam war the military was not very popular. Veterans ETSing souring those days, which I did in 1973, were not treated very well by the general public. Any pride in one's service was held very closely to the vest as public displays of service were met with sustain and ridicule by the general public. I had very few friends who served in the military. Somewhere along in the 1990's the average American's view of veterans and active military began to change for the positive. Today I wear my Army Veteran cap with pride because I can do so without being called a fool or a sucker. It's a breath of fresh air to me to be able to express pride in my service without the condescending stares and comments of my fellow Americans.

Response by SPC Brian Mason made Jan 10 at 2017 11:05 AM

SPC Brian Mason — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:05:56 -0500

I don't wear my stuff because I'm on a limited income and replacing some of them would be expensive. Veterans don't get to go to CIF when our original issue gets worn out. I have a cap I bought on Amazon and that can tell people I was in the military along with my dog tags.
As for this new style of tshirts......no problem even the example you used. There's one: "Try Standing on this flag." to which it has one that covers the front. Some veterans have more sever PTSD and do NOT need some teenage (or any age) ass hat randomly assault or insult them.

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Jan 10 at 2017 7:57 PM

SGM Mikel Dawson — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:57:43 -0500

Living OCONUS I don't. I don't wear any Vet caps or such, guess it is still situational awareness thing. If I was CONUS, I would wear Vet stuff, cap or such. I am proud of my service. Nothing wrong with showing it. We all show our past in some way or another. I believe the way we show it reflects they service we experienced.

Response by CPO Charles Helms made Jan 18 at 2017 6:58 PM

CPO Charles Helms — Wed, 18 Jan 2017 18:58:35 -0500

I wear my USS Enterprise CVN-65 ball cap with pride, and I have a number Navy t shirts that I also wear!! I get the thank you or your service all the time!! Or when were you on Enterprise?? I spent 22 years in the Navy and I am proud of my service!! But there are those that maybe didn't have many good feelings about there time in service, and do not want to be reminded of it!! Each person has there own reasons for celebrating their time and those who would just rather forget it!! I don't believe it is a generation thing, but and individual thing!!!

Response by SrA James Cannon made Jan 19 at 2017 4:44 PM

SrA James Cannon — Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:44:06 -0500

I think it's a matter of personal choice and style. While it may not be your style now or ever, some folks like that kind of stuff. Some folks also decorate the devil out of their personal vehicle's with veteran type stickers. Again, it's personal taste in my opinion.

Response by SGM Ronald Cheatom made Jan 24 at 2017 9:23 AM

SGM Ronald Cheatom — Tue, 24 Jan 2017 09:23:55 -0500

Your pride in service, is a personal thing, and you shouldn't let what others say, or do, determine how you show your pride.

Response by SFC Diane DiNapolis made Jan 24 at 2017 9:42 AM

SFC Diane DiNapolis — Tue, 24 Jan 2017 09:42:42 -0500

I just can't bring myself to wear/mix my uniforms with civilian clothes. We are told not to do it and after 24 years of not doing it I can't do it. It's ingrained. The only thing I wear that identifies me as a veteran is a patch on my motorcycle vest that say "US Army Retired."

Response by CPL Howard Conover made Feb 8 at 2017 10:48 AM

CPL Howard Conover — Wed, 08 Feb 2017 10:48:35 -0500

A Soldier who has served honorably should feel ok to wear apparel that relates to their military service. When I wear something that is reference to my military service and I come across a fellow Soldier we do share, briefly, our experiences and keep the "brotherhood" connection going and we move on.

Response by SGT Stanley Bass made Feb 8 at 2017 10:51 PM

SGT Stanley Bass — Wed, 08 Feb 2017 22:51:34 -0500

As stated by Cpl Justin Goolsby, there are two types of Veterans. When I retired I sold everything but my gortex jacket which I was going to keep. then the jacket was stolen from me. I noticed the Veterans getting out in my Generation did not want to associate and talk about it, some never will. But as you get along it is easier to talk about it. When I was getting out I went straight to the VFW where I lived and joined. While I was attending college, and seeing the next Generation getting out They did not wear anything that said they served. I just knew they served because they were at the Veterans Resource center. None of them did any functions with Veterans organizations unless it was with the veterans club, doing something with an organization. 8 of 10 after finishing school, never went to another veteran function again. I was a vender from 2011-2016 selling military related aparel and patches. It wasn't until the last two years 2015/2016 that I saw people of my Era (Desert Storm) and Afghanistan Freedom, actually start buying and wearing apparel. I feel that as time goes by more and more people express it. But at the same time. My Grandfather passed in 1997, after I had been in for 8, and it wasn't until I presented my grandmother with the flag and heard them read his Eulogy, that I knew he fought in the Battle o the Bulge in WWII. Where as my other Grand father whom also served in the Battle of the Bulge, he passed in 1990 shortly after I Joined, Talked about it. I also still have his VFW membership card for his VFW post he was a member of when he passed.

Response by SFC Scott Parkhurst made Feb 9 at 2017 10:07 PM

SFC Scott Parkhurst — Thu, 09 Feb 2017 22:07:29 -0500

I'm very respectful to OUR uniform(s),, and I find that I just can't wear mine if I even have a beard. IF I am to put mine on, I will shave my beard off. I guess I'm just old fashion.

Response by PO1 Tommy French made Feb 14 at 2017 8:55 AM

PO1 Tommy French — Tue, 14 Feb 2017 08:55:29 -0500

I think that it's about pride in one's service for the most part, at least with those veterans whom I associate with. Wearing a piece of uniform apparel appears to give them a sense of belonging that they otherwise would not have. Personally, I don't wear uniform apparel because wearing a Navy Jumper would look kind of silly running around on land. And, wearing the uniform I spent most of my time in the service in would bring a bit of "retro" laughter as I liked the "Working uniform" of dungarees. And we all remember Seafarer Jeans with those huge bell bottoms.

Response by MSgt Neil Greenfield made Feb 19 at 2017 12:11 AM

MSgt Neil Greenfield — Sun, 19 Feb 2017 00:11:15 -0500

I have 4 duffel bags of uniforms, Army and Air Force. I won't get rid of them. Although I don't wear them all the time, I do have a USAF retired hat I wear on occasion, and I still wear my last field jacket with all the patches. Especially to anything I participate in related to Veterans or Memorial observances. I also wear them to parades.
The Army was my first service before I went Air National Guard and then retired. I don't wear anything Army related, because it doesn't feel right, even though I am a U.S. Army Veteran.
But I do advertise my service all of the time through my automobile license plates. Ohio has a lot of military related automobile license plates. Mine have the Air Force Seal and "U.S. Armed Forces Retired" on them.
http://www.bmv.ohio.gov/vr-sp-military.aspx

State of Ohio BMV

Vehicle Type: passenger vehicles, non-commercial trucks, recreational vehicles, house vehicles and non-commercial trailers

Response by MCPO Mark Burns made Feb 28 at 2017 6:50 AM

MCPO Mark Burns — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 06:50:12 -0500

Did my time, retied and that was it. Proud of my time in yes!

Response by PO3 Timothy "Tim" Dzurnak made Feb 28 at 2017 3:55 PM

PO3 Timothy "Tim" Dzurnak — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 15:55:11 -0500

i think as we get older we tend to be more lenient of older vet's and their attire,,after all we know there Vet and what they did..not everyone still has a uniform that they can wear,or even fit into..these guy's no matter what condition their in deserve our respect as Family..

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 3 at 2017 9:57 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Jul 2017 21:57:39 -0400

I think it's unique to just you and the people you associate with. What grown man would care enough about what another man wears to even consider commenting on it, especially to another man?

Response by SPC David Willis made Feb 6 at 2018 12:30 PM

SPC David Willis — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 12:30:12 -0500

I think our generation of vets are just more "look at me" either way they lean. No knock against us just our generational differences. The old guys had low profile tasteful Vietnam veteran hats or ww2 veteran hats and things like that. Our generation wears shirts that tell everyone we drink the blood of our enemies, that we are infidels, that we are dysfunctional and that they shouldn't talk to us. Our guys put out yard signs asking others to alter how they celebrate 4th of July so on and so on. Not that our veterans from previous generations didn't have the same issues, but they just kept more quiet about them.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Jan 11 at 2023 4:27 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Wed, 11 Jan 2023 16:27:55 -0500

It's a really cringey type of attention seeking. "Thanks seeking".