Is it ok to have two billers about civilian education in an NCOER?

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 02 May 2021 13:09:39 -0400

Good morning,
I am currently reviewing NCOERs. One if the NCOERs has two bullets pertaining civilian education.
The first bullet, under intellect, says “pursued educational goals; completed 12 credit hours with 3.8 GPA towards a BA degree in XX.”
The second bullet, under achieves, says “earned two AA degrees while servicing as XX without degradation of mission success.”
I understand the thinking process of the rater but it’s still double dipping in a way. What do you think?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2021 1:10 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 02 May 2021 13:10:14 -0400

*bullets

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2021 1:35 PM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 02 May 2021 13:35:24 -0400

Pick one! Can’t have both.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2021 3:00 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 02 May 2021 15:00:39 -0400

This may be a personal opinion but if they are two separate degrees why not. Earning 2 associates and completing 13 credits for a Bachelor’s in the same rating period seems like they both should be highlighted. It would be like if I won post Best Warrior competition and also competed in a separately ran BDE NCO of the quarter competition. Two separate events. One was an achieves the other was under any other attribute that it fits in.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2021 3:14 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 02 May 2021 15:14:03 -0400

Merge the bullets to one, more powerful bullet

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 2 at 2021 6:07 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Sun, 02 May 2021 18:07:27 -0400

I am no expert but it seems overkill on civilian education unless he wants to be portrayed as a professional student.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2021 7:19 PM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 02 May 2021 19:19:34 -0400

civ ed accomplishments, regardless of how many ways you can say it, are all one accomplishment during the rating period, (and should be under Develops).
"Earned two AA degrees" seems like something that might have taken longer than one annual rating period, unless the NCO was 12 credits or less away from completing all the requirements for both during the rated period. I would look into that piece and make sure they are not talking about the overall civ ed experience of this NCO beyond the current rated period.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 3 at 2021 12:40 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 May 2021 00:40:16 -0400

I'd recommend merging the two achievements into one bullet separated by a semi-colon. While two separate events, wrapping into one makes for a stronger bullet, IMHO anyway.

Response by PO2 Brett Norman made Sep 15 at 2021 7:22 AM

PO2 Brett Norman — Wed, 15 Sep 2021 07:22:08 -0400

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