Posted on Mar 17, 2016
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I've seen a new E-5 in my unit with the deployment OCP (the shoulders are Velcro pockets like the ACU not zippers, faintly faded, with a fuller only jacket zipper) without a deployment patch, or skill badges I.E CIB, AAS, Etc. he approached me for work and as we were talking he brought up how things worked at his last unit, and I asked him where he was deployed to and he said he wasn't (No right shoulder patch) but from what I understood those OCP's we're only given out to those who have been deployed to the Middle East the last year or so. Can anyone clarify on this? Thank you.
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SGM Erik Marquez
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Sgt Tim Horton
Sgt Tim Horton
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SGT Mary Martel pretty sure congress authorized it? Lol! Marine has been a title since our inception as Continental Marines. I don't recall a there being Continental Soldiers raised, just a Continental Army. The only time 'solider' is capitalized is if you somehow start a sentence with it.
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SGT Mary Martel
SGT Mary Martel
2 mo
Sgt Tim Horton - That's cute. A Marine is going to tell an Army NCO about a MILPER message she received at her 3rd duty station. No really, it's adorable. BTW, since you're so concerned about capitalization, Congress is capitalized, too. Oh, yeah...you're still just a Department of the Navy, LMK when you're your own branch...oh wait, didn't I hear recently that some Secretary of Something wanted to get rid of the Marines altogether? Carry on.
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SFC Mark Klaers
SFC Mark Klaers
1 mo
Even if it's authorized for wear, why would you want to if you didn't go?
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SGT Greg Gold
SGT Greg Gold
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After scanning this thread I came away with the following:
SGM Marquez's flow chart is epic in it's brevity.
When an airman gets uppity, it's ALWAYS an A1C.
Some people you just can't reach. It's just a uniform.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
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Sure it is. In fact, I gave mine to my son who came in in '13, so he wouldn't have to wear the ugly ass UCP ACUs any more. Also, you are not required to wear badges or SSI-FWTS on ACUs. I have known many NCOs and Os that didn't wear them. Even though this NCO didn't deploy you shouldn't judge by what is attached to their uniform. Judge them by how the lead.
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SPC Edward Abney
SPC Edward Abney
2 mo
MSG Ron Radar - Agreed, MSG. When I was in, we had Spec 4. 5, 6, and a few 7's. NCOIC's wore stripes and you knew who was top dog. That is not to say that Spec's did not have leadership positions in their respective shops. My two cents, the Army is overloaded with NCO's, especially E5 and E6.
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MSG Ron Radar
MSG Ron Radar
2 mo
SPC Edward Abney - And everything worked pretty smoothly while that system was in place . Now they're putting NCO's into those slots that sometimes have no idea of what the job IS , bad for morale and bad for the NCO and section they're supposed to run ! I still haven't heard a good reason of just why they did away with those ranks , the ONLY one I've heard that might make some sense is that too many specialist job's disappear when the system is phased out ( and systems do tend to change or be replaced rather quickly these days ) and they have no where else to place them so they basically get either retired out or just get booted as they either don't qualify to make NCO or there's no room for them to make NCO .
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SPC Edward Abney
SPC Edward Abney
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MSG Ron Radar - Phased out Specialists could and should move on to training for new systems. I believe the Service is taking the easy way out by giving them the boot!
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MSG Ron Radar
MSG Ron Radar
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SPC Edward Abney -
Yeah they RIFFED most of them and didn't even care ! There are and were times I failed to even recognize the Army I joined in 75 . Watched us climb out of the hole that Ford and Carter put us in and then saw Regan boost us back up and then the first Bush and Clinton kick us to the curb AGAIN ! Then they needed us once again after 9-11 and we hit the happy times as far as being treated the way the military should be . Then o'bummer gutted our officer and high ranking NCO's because they didn't kiss his ass and bend over . The group in charge now plans to gut us again , things just can't seem to stabilize and allow us to be what we all are - HONEST , FAITHFUL , LOYAL AMERICANS who swore an oath to this Nation ! We had four years to rebuild then bam another bunch who hates us in control , I'm hoping we retain enough of the main core to weather this storm and once again rise to being treated as loyal troops to this great Nation . As for the VA all we can do now is hope for the best . Sorry state of affairs' we're in again !
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SFC Benjamin Harrison
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Read AR 670-1. I rather show you where to find the answer than merely give it to you.
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SFC Benjamin Harrison
SFC Benjamin Harrison
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And when you fail to challenge them to seek the knowledge you will never build future leaders. Snubbing someone and guiding them towards knowledge are two completely separate factors. As a young NCO I challenge you to challenge your subordinates to grow. Leaders create new leaders, toxic people who think they’re in charge create angry followers who eventually quit. SGT (Join to see)
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SSG Gregg Mourizen
SSG Gregg Mourizen
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SFC Benjamin Harrison - LOL, I often challenged my leaders to look up the regs, as I knew them better than then did. I usually would only challenge on BS issues, and for those I knew page, chapter and paragraph. Very few bothered to do the research. I made it into kind of a game. Anything that didn't sound right, I would looke it up, verify if it was covered in unit SOP, and let the games begin.
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SSG Elyzabeth Cromer
SSG Elyzabeth Cromer
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SFC (Join to see) No, RallyPoint is a place where you go and get opinions about things, and "Well in my day this is the way we did things". If are one is actually interested knowing the answer to a question you have to ask, "What regulation covers ... and is it appropriate for me to bring this up in this manner, if not how should I do it and why?" Otherwise you will get a lot of "information" that may be completely off base, and tank your career.
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SSG Elyzabeth Cromer
SSG Elyzabeth Cromer
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SPC (Join to see) SPC while I can appreciate the sentiment behind your post, it is disrespectful to an NCO. I advise you not to behave in this manner. Remember the 1st Amendment does not apply to members of the Armed Forces, and spellcheck is your friend.
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