Is it possible for a former USMC Reserve E-3 to get E-4 before going to AIT for the Army National Guard?

2018-05-16T21:06:25-04:00

As a former e3 in the Marine Corp reserves i was wondering if it was possible to make e4 either before going to or during AIT for Army National guard? I was in the the Marine reserve for 3 years and I’ve been out for about a year now. I want to get e4 because I hear marine e3 and army e4 are pretty much just the same thing.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2018 9:19 PM

2018-05-16T21:19:58-04:00

Look up MSG Joe Weidlich in the G4 office at the 42nd Infantry Division HQ in Troy NY. He is a former Marine and works there full time.... Also, here's a bit of advice. I have been in the Army for over 20 years and have met many former Marine's who became Soldiers and we chewed up and spit out the ones who couldn't make the transition to becoming 100% Soldier. Making comparisons like "Marine E3 is the same as Army E4" will get you chewed up and spit out. Best of luck to you.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made May 16 at 2018 9:33 PM

2018-05-16T21:33:08-04:00

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Response by SGT Victoria Belbusti made May 16 at 2018 9:34 PM

2018-05-16T21:34:05-04:00

If you have a degree you can come in as an E4. Check with a recruiter to see how your prior service counts.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2018 12:00 PM

2018-05-17T12:00:25-04:00

More likely not. You will need a grade determination and based on time in service not likely. Is your RE code 1? If you require a waiver, you can expect the answer to be no.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2018 4:48 PM

2018-05-17T16:48:57-04:00

The army does not recognize that a l/cpl does the work of a specialist. If you were a CPL you would still go in as a specialist.
Check with your recrutor

Response by MSG Dan Castaneda made Aug 13 at 2018 12:08 AM

2018-08-13T00:08:10-04:00

An E-3 in the USMC reserves is equal to an E4 in the Army? That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all day.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 5 at 2020 9:42 PM

2020-12-05T21:42:26-05:00

As someone who left the active duty Marine Corps and switched to the Army, I’ll tell you that the likelihood of that happening is slim to none. You’ll enlist as an E-3 and then wait to fulfill the TIG requirements and then be promoted to E-4. Send me a connection request and I’ll go more into detail. I’ve been active Army for a year now.