Is it possible for someone to automatically get a P-status after a certain amount of time in the Army?

2019-02-18T23:29:39-05:00

A friend of mine has been in the Army a little over 3 years and has failed 3 boards, was counseled for it and so on. He was told he has one more shot to get his P-status or he's barred (he didn't go into detail) but he said something about the possibility of getting it automatically based on the word of the CO or something. Is there something to this? If not, how long does he have before he's chaptered for failure to progress? He wants to stay in.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Feb 18 at 2019 11:35 PM

2019-02-18T23:35:33-05:00

“Really wants to stay in”? Ain’t nothin like a personal demonstration of wanting to stay in!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 18 at 2019 11:47 PM

2019-02-18T23:47:01-05:00

Under the new promotion system after you've been in the primary zone a certain amount of time you move into the mandatory integrated list, unless you've been barred. Barring someone is the only way to prevent them from becoming automatically promotable. Six months after the bar is initiated the chapter should be initiated.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 18 at 2019 11:50 PM

2019-02-18T23:50:21-05:00

He shouldn't get chaptered out but he can get barred to reenlistment.
During his counselling did they mention what he needed to do to correct his deficiencies?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 19 at 2019 2:57 AM

2019-02-19T02:57:54-05:00

Thank God for the National Guard and the EPS list.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 19 at 2019 10:58 AM

2019-02-19T10:58:28-05:00

Depending on his MOS he can get an automatic “P-status” after being in for 4 years. He then has 1 year to attend BLC, and can also lose his P Status for expired PT or weapons. At least that’s how it is with 4 soldiers in my unit. All four received an automatic promotable status at their four year mark.

Response by 1SG Dennis Hicks made Feb 19 at 2019 7:29 PM

2019-02-19T19:29:15-05:00

The worst enemy of a Soldier is the barracks lawyer, all young enlisted should decide shorty after they make PFC/SPC weather they want to make a go at promotion and if they have the traits to become a leader and take on additional responsibility. They should be working on developing confidence and skill sets prior to being boarded by having good peers and junior NCO's taking a hand at developing the next generations of NCO's. The days of career privates if that ever existed are over, their are only so many slots for each rank in each MOS and a total number of permitted manpower in big Army. If the Army allows those that either don't want to promote or can't stay then you prevent others from moving up. I was an 11B back in the day and I promoted at min TIS/DOR and was a SGT SL in 26 months. While your CO signs off on promotion board packets the board decides if a troop has the points or ability. The NCO corp already suffers from folks that should never have had stripes so its wise to make sure those that have the ability get promoted over those just wanting to stay.
In the end your friends First Line leader is responsible for making the determination if he/she is ready. If he/she can't cut it then maybe they should either buckle down and become a quality candidate for promotion or look into back up plan "B" in the civilian world.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2019 8:52 AM

2019-02-20T08:52:10-05:00

Alright, let me Explain this as clear and concise to the point. With the New MLI (Mandotory List intergration) used to be CLI (Command List integration) you get your Promotable status after 2 years time in service as Specialist. And the only thing that would stop you from picking up your stripes is 1. Points (promotion points) and 2. BLC (Basic Leader Corse) which is mandatory now. You will not be promoted to Sergeant unless you have gone to BLC Period. You can make points and if you don’t have BLC then that can halt your career. The ONLY loop hole would be if you are deployed and your leadership can waiver you without BLC. But it’s up to your Leaders in your units to send you to school but it’s ultimately up to You to keep bothering and Hurrassing them about it. If all else fails take the initiative go to your School NCO usually at S3 and see what you need to make your own school packet. Make a copy of everything. Give one to your leader. And if they lose it take it to S3 yourself and the Schoo NCO will tell you your next report date For BLC, packing list, etc. Done deal!

Response by SGT Gregory Cole made Feb 20 at 2019 9:15 AM

2019-02-20T09:15:10-05:00

What garbage is this? Automatic promotion to E-5? It is bad enough that everyone is a winner and there are no losers nowadays, but to automatically make someone a leader if they are not qualified...dear sweet baby jesus. Pvt. Snuffy will be Sgt. Snuffy and degrade the ARMY further.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2021 1:18 PM

2021-06-15T13:18:13-04:00

What year is this I know the new system you have too have blc and pass the board I've been in 43 months getting medboarded haven't been laterally promoted

Response by SPC Greg Campbell made Nov 2 at 2022 1:52 PM

2022-11-02T13:52:57-04:00

I was in a combat unit with a non combat MOS. We were E5 short so us Spec 4s were doing E5 stuff. Except those poor E4 that were AJed to fill Tops CQ and guard rosters. My promotion points where sky high 900+ in the 80s. Got sent to PLC kicking and screaming but ended up in the top 5 of (to me) Basic training part 2. Never was asked to go to the E5 board mostly because I didn't ask. When I PCSed I was just breaking the 900 point barrier. Re-enlisted and found , at my next unit, I wasn't going to make it a career. ILL never forget, at my first formation I got berated because my 8th ID patches shadow could be seen under the 4th ID patch. Then I got yelled at for wearing tanker boots in the field. 'Why are your wearing those?' They asked. Because I earned them at Baumholder and Graf going downrange.