Is it possible to have an APFT administered by a sister service?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Nov 2020 20:14:22 -0500

I live in a remote area over 100 miles from my reserve unit. With drills being distanced learning due to COVID I have unable to take a APFT. Previously to that I was in the IRR. I work with a sister service, is it possible to have NCO's I work with on the civilian side (they are active duty) administer an APFT? Reading AR 350-1 I found:

m. Administrators of the APFT must be Soldiers currently serving in the military to include the RC, senior ROTC cadets, and senior USMA cadets. The following personnel are prohibited from administering the APFT: Civilians, retired Soldiers, and IRR Soldiers who are not on tours of duty for 12 or more consecutive calendar days for annual training, active duty training, or active duty for special work. One exception to this paragraph is granted to Soldiers in isolated locations (such as an embassy) where there exists an insufficient number of Soldiers to administer the APFT. In this case, military members from other Services or civilians, who are working in the Soldier’s chain of command, may administer the APFT after reviewing all requirements of administering the APFT outlined in FM 7–22, appendix A. (page 196)

I've tried reaching out to my local recruiting office if they were able to administer me one but have gotten no response. (I also edited the original post as it wasnt set to ask a question)

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 11 at 2020 8:40 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Nov 2020 20:40:19 -0500

It's really up to your chain of command. I would be "ok" with it.

I think you are on the right path.

Ironically, I don't get the feeling that USAR units are using this time to fluff up our Fitness Readiness Metrics. Meaning, once you have a passing score you really don't need to take it again until this whole CV19 thing is behind us.

So instead of a swinging door of passes and fails like there usually is units don't have to worry about passes turning into fails for a good while.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 11 at 2020 9:26 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:26:08 -0500

If you're not flagged for failing an APFT- you don't need an APFT even in Guard or Reserves as far as I understand.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 11 at 2020 9:36 PM

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Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Nov 11 at 2020 11:52 PM

SSgt Christophe Murphy — Wed, 11 Nov 2020 23:52:00 -0500

Your unit has to approve any proctors for any test like that. This scenario is no different. You would need to talk to your unit folks who manage this

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2020 7:53 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:53:23 -0500

It's up to your commander to accept your score. I have taken a couple with Air Force personnel acting as grader and NCOIC, no issues.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2020 8:46 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Nov 2020 08:46:34 -0500

As of 1 OCT 2020, no one should be taking the APFT. It is no longer the record fitness test. We have moved on to the ACFT. There are requirements for graders and NCOIC/OIC to have completed training prior to being able to conduct a test. There is no restriction on who or where the test is taken, but will be up to the command to accept it. (There is some liability/validity to ensure it is a legitimate test.)

Response by 1SG Brian Adams made Nov 12 at 2020 10:38 AM

1SG Brian Adams — Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:38:06 -0500

yes

Response by CSM Danny S. made Nov 12 at 2020 1:36 PM

CSM Danny S. — Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:36:50 -0500

The ACFT requires equipment and if you were able to get that together you still have a problem. The ACFT requires a certified administrator and trained graders. Finally your commander would have to be ok with it. So the short answer is no. Check your units COVID policy and when you start drilling again be ready to take an ACFT.