Is it possible to make SGT without ever having been to the E-5 promotion board?

2017-04-04T08:34:48-04:00

Spc in the army for a while gets put on cli never been to a promotion board get promoted to e5 my leaders are telling me he needs to go to the promotion or he loses his e5 is this true

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2017 8:45 AM

2017-04-04T08:45:36-04:00

Not true at all. If a SPC has the requisite TIS/TIG to be integrated onto the Command List Integration (CLI) and his/her MOS is a STAR MOS, then gets promoted, that promotion is just as valid as someone who went to the board and made points. That's how the CLI and STAR MOS system works. Your leaders don't seem to know how promotions work.

Reducing someone requires a valid reason, and a reduction board, unless the promotion was erroneous, then it's paperwork for the S-1 Section. See AR 600-8-19 Enlisted Promotions and Reductions

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2017 9:50 AM

2017-04-04T09:50:49-04:00

Damn, SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member , you beat me to it.

Response by SFC George Smith made Apr 4 at 2017 11:52 AM

2017-04-04T11:52:27-04:00

have Not heard of it... I do Know of One clown who went ... Failed the Board but still had the Points and Pushed the Issue that he Had to be Promoted even though he failed the Board... and got promoted...

Response by SPC John Parmenter made Apr 4 at 2017 2:28 PM

2017-04-04T14:28:25-04:00

Stranger things have happened. Remember Elvis Presley -- made E-5 before his two years were over. Actually, I knew at least two Draftees who were promoted to Sergeant during their two years. Neither one of them was a good NCO or even an adequate leader. I don't think either of them attended NCO Academy. They both just happened to be at the right place at the right time. These things happened prior to America's major involvement in South Vietnam & are irrelevant to this discussion but someone might find it interesting.

Response by 1SG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2017 4:56 PM

2017-04-04T16:56:56-04:00

That SPC should be good to go just like everyone had stated.

Response by SGT Christopher Hayden made Apr 4 at 2017 6:33 PM

2017-04-04T18:33:13-04:00

Ask Bowe Bergdahl.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2017 9:09 PM

2017-04-04T21:09:49-04:00

I know a SGT and become a SSG via battlefield promotion... he did not go to the board or have the points if I remember correctly.

Response by LCDR Keith Trepanier made Apr 5 at 2017 1:07 PM

2017-04-05T13:07:47-04:00

I actually was promoted to E-5 from E-3 without a promotion board. But the circumstances were not normal. I had been in the Army for about a year and half and had been trying to get promoted to E-4 and was a good soldier but the command knew I was trying to go to flight school and "didn't want to waste the slot" on me. So I was stuck as an E-3 for a while longer than my peers. Then I was selected for flight training and had to be an E-5 to attend.

The command felt bad that I had been stuck as a PFC so they promoted me to E-5 a month earlier than they were supposed to. So I got to be a Sergeant at my unit for a while before I left. It was certainly a surprise to some of the E-4s who had been jerks to me up until that day.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 6 at 2017 2:24 AM

2017-04-06T02:24:19-04:00

Unfortunately yes!

Response by SGT Rick Toole made Apr 7 at 2017 8:46 PM

2017-04-07T20:46:19-04:00

The new snowflake Army. What happened to "Be All That You Can Be" ? Instead of Eat all that you can eat... Geez...

Response by SFC Henry C Davis made Aug 17 at 2018 1:52 PM

2018-08-17T13:52:05-04:00

I made E-6 without going before a board got promotion for call a blood stripe

Response by SFC Kenneth Hunnell made Mar 2 at 2020 6:20 PM

2020-03-02T18:20:26-05:00

Yes, be in a combat zone and be recognized for something special and noticed by someone with the pull