Is it time for a joint border strategy?

2015-06-07T08:35:03-04:00

The border issue has been building steam for years but we refuse to address the problem. This incident solidifies the fact that the problem is still growing and left unchecked will become too much to deal with quietly. Is it time for a joint approach to border control and enforcement starting at the Federal/National Guard level and adjusting from there?

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/06/05/breaking-us-cbp-chopper-down-at-texas-border-fired-on-from-mexico/

**UPDATES** BREAKING: US CBP Chopper Down at Texas Border, Fired on from Mexico

Breitbart Texas has learned that a U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) helicopter was shot down or forced to initiate an emergency landing in Laredo, Texas due to receiving gunfire from the Mexican side of the border. The helicopter was interdicting a narcotics load and working alongside agents from the U.S. Border Patrol, who operate under the umbrella of the CBP. The helicopter was operating in the Laredo Sector of Texas, immediately...

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 7 at 2015 9:19 AM

2015-06-07T09:19:26-04:00

State and Federal military forces have been supporting civil authorities for counter-drug operations along the Southwest Border since 1989, well before the Homeland Security Act of 2002 and the stand-up of DHS. There is too much history for a small post here. The US government's strategy has shifted from counter-drug to Combating Transnational Criminal Organizations (TCOs) with a broader range of threats to our national interests (arms, human, weapons smuggling are examples). Although the center of gravity is likely the demand for drugs in the U.S. (otherwise, there is no profit for criminals), politics and budget constraints are the two biggest obstacles toward developing a more unified effort between DoD, DHS and the States along the SWB, Caribbean, and Northern border. Arguably, JIATF-South has a model approach or best practice to this challenge and there is much debate if there should be a JIATF-North (a joint-interagency task force).

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 7 at 2015 9:58 AM

2015-06-07T09:58:10-04:00

This looks like another false flag operation perpetrated by the US government in order for you special operation types to impose martial law on Texans... it's Jade Helm all over again.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Jun 7 at 2015 10:26 AM

2015-06-07T10:26:55-04:00

Yes, but "joint" will be more like us protecting our side of the border while the Federalis smoke weed.

IMHO, Mexico has no vested interest in protecting their border because I would venture a guess that 80% of the illegal traffic is Northward bound. Besides why should they care because those that come north legally or otherwise send a good chunk of change south legally or otherwise. Its a win-win for them to siesta on the job.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 7 at 2015 10:42 AM

2015-06-07T10:42:26-04:00

Our southern border needs to be closed. If they want to immigrate, get in line.

Response by SSgt J.J. Guajardo made Jun 7 at 2015 12:22 PM

2015-06-07T12:22:04-04:00

We have tried this approach already! It works although, this strategy requires more fluidity with LPOP's and less micromanagement. This strategy also requires a change in the Posse Comitatus Act, specifically, 10 U.S.C. Sec 375, to allow Active Duty Members of Armed Services to aid current Forces of Homeland Security. The U.S. Coast Guard is already Authorized as are the National Guardsmen of each individual state. We need Force Multipliers. However, this approach requires much training in "Rules of Engagement". The chain of command must be established and adhered to in order to maintain a civil continuity of operations.

Response by LTC Bink Romanick made Jun 7 at 2015 12:25 PM

2015-06-07T12:25:22-04:00

Anything from Beitbart isn't worth my time.

Response by MSG Morgan Fiszel, CPCM, CFCM made Jun 7 at 2015 4:02 PM

2015-06-07T16:02:09-04:00

If it moves: shoot it. If it doesn't move: shoot it anyways.

Response by PO1 Glenn Boucher made Oct 28 at 2015 3:06 PM

2015-10-28T15:06:30-04:00

I answered yes but it has to be between the US and Mexico to jointly provide a secure border. But sadly I think that Mexico could care less about border security for those looking to leave. As recently was the case with the US Marine, Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi. He illegally entered Mexico and yes he had a few guns, but he was immediately arrested and pretty much convicted of several crimes without any hesitation on Mexico's part.
We need a serious sit down with Mexico and Central America to let them know that anyone caught illegally in the US will be arrested and immediately deported, no more amnesty, no more worrying about alleged human rights violations or other craziness.
And a little off subject but we need to fix the broken immigration system because it cannot cope with all the flaws in it.