Is it true ALC for 68W is back logged for 18 to 24 months due to it being proctored?

2016-03-11T07:13:45-05:00

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2016 7:18 AM

2016-03-11T07:18:42-05:00

My wife is having a hard time getting in as well. She heard a similar rumor. I'm sorry I can't give an affirmative yes or no.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2016 8:10 AM

2016-03-11T08:10:30-05:00

Looks like I'm calling someone in Texas this morning. I will post what I find out.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2016 9:41 AM

2016-03-11T09:41:55-05:00

Don't you just love how the Army stresses to move up or out in conjunction with the STEP policy............yet make it very difficult to get the training needed to promote.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2016 10:05 AM

2016-03-11T10:05:14-05:00

All 68 series are back logged right now I had a soldier try to reclass and he quickly found out that wasn't going to happen.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2016 8:15 PM

2016-03-17T20:15:10-04:00

What do you mean by “proctored?” ALC is and always has been a resident course. All 68-series MOSs complete an online “Phase 1 (Distributed Learning)” that is administered by real humans and therefore has limited slots available. Maybe that’s what you’re asking about – yes, it’s an online course that requires a separate ATRRS reservation, and has real people who grade assignments and monitor milestones along the way. And yes, it is probably backlogged.

Phase 2 is the resident AMEDD phase (all 68-series), and Phase 3 is the resident MOS-specific phase. I’d imagine that they’re all “backlogged” due to there being more Soldiers eligible than slots available. It’s important to realize that it’s not simply a waiting list -- it’s an Order-of-Merit List (OML). It’s not simply X months’ wait; your place on the OML will shift based on various criteria (mostly, your official promotion points versus those of your peers). It’s also noteworthy that SSGs are being placed at the end of the OML, since (in theory) they should have completed ALC by now.

Also, I don’t know how ARNG factors into the OML, but if I’m not mistaken, there are ARNG NCO Academies that you might be able to attend instead of waiting on the OML.

BTW: It used to be worse. Up until 2014, SSD2 was called “ALC-Common Core,” and that was “proctored” too… with a different OML!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2016 11:59 PM

2016-04-18T23:59:44-04:00

First, I want to make it clear that I am AGR, and while we are Active Duty, we have a separate PPRL than Compo 1. That being said, I went to the board 2 weeks ago, and was already slotted by HRC for Phase 1 with a start date of 24 July. I'm not sure if there will be a long wait between Phases 1&2 or between 2&3, but if I hear anything else, I'll be sure to share.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 25 at 2017 12:14 PM

2017-07-25T12:14:53-04:00

How long is OML/Wait list? I am an AGR Medical Readiness NCO in a E-6 Position and have not been able to complete the DL Phase 1. My unit has been trying to have me enrolled since October 2015. What are the chances and slots looking like for NG in FY 18? This STEP Program is a huge issue because I am losing money and am in the position of a E-6. Right now if the reservation rolls for Phase 1 I will not be complete with all 3 phases until July 2018. Thank you for the time and help with this.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2017 1:37 PM

2017-12-07T13:37:27-05:00

So from what I know as of right now if in this is just speaking on the active portion if you want to get to ALC you need about 590 promotion points in order to go I tried to go and they told me I was not competitive enough even though I was DA selected for recruiter and picked up my promotable status within six months