Is it true that you can’t take a record PT test if you are on profile with a stipulation you can’t do the push up event?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 11 Jan 2018 02:11:51 -0500

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2018 4:20 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 11 Jan 2018 04:20:05 -0500

Is it permanent or temp?

Response by COL Vincent Stoneking made Jan 11 at 2018 9:38 AM

COL Vincent Stoneking — Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:38:19 -0500

No.

As long as you can do A Cardio event (Run, Walk, Swim, Bike) AND the profile doesn't say "NO" to the record APFT question, you can do a record APFT.

If it is scored properly, you will get the points for the two events you complete. Assuming they are both 60 or over, it will be a record pass. (Lots of times, they score the skipped event as a 60, which is incorrect - there is no score for it. But that's really not an issue you need to care about)/

Response by SGT Frank Pritchett made Jan 11 at 2018 10:18 AM

SGT Frank Pritchett — Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:18:11 -0500

If you did then you would violate your profile and if the injury re-occurred then you could be subject to the UCMJ for failure to comply with Surgeon Generals Orders of not complying with regulations not to mention that you could have to your own expenses on medical bills. what you could do is to contact a JAG Officer for correct clarification. the whole point of the Profile is to allow you to heal in reasonable time and return to duty.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2018 10:30 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:30:07 -0500

Yes and no, it depends on the duration of your temporary profile. If your profile is more than 90 days you can take a record subject to your profile restrictions, you just miss out on the pushup event. Best way forward if you are flagged and trying to get off the flag, tell your doctor and have him recommend either reducing your profile if or extending it to the 90 days, or just telling you to suck it up until your wrist heals and stop failing PT tests in the first place, if that is the case.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2018 1:01 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:01:01 -0500

SPC Private RallyPoint Member you cannot take a record APFT while on temporary profile. If you have a permanent profile you can take a record APFT and just not take the event that you are exempt from.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2018 11:25 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:25:50 -0500

You can also refer to the reg listed on the profile for additional info

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 15 at 2018 8:08 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:08:30 -0500

Just went through the same thing. With the new profile format your medical provider can authorize a record APFT while on temporary. It will be check marked on the form. Just make sure the temporary and permanent sections are filled in to accurately reflect what you can and cannot do if they both apply. Weird I know. Went to the doc twice to clear it up.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 17 at 2020 2:30 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 17 Jan 2020 14:30:25 -0500

If your on profile it would be useless and would not count, but you can be given a diagnostic as long as it does not violate your profile. A bad NCO would try and force you to do it but stay within the guidelines of your profile. I was removed off the C-10 roster for refusing to take a Record Pt Test after six months of surgery for major neck surgery; my 1st SG submitted me for an A-15 two weeks prior to my medical discharge. This is how far a unit will go. Read the conditions of your profile and pay attention to the coding of your ERB.