Is Liberalism and Political Correctness the new fascism?

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 13:45:25 -0400

Is Political Correctness the New Fascism?

We had a comment here about the alleged racism of people on the right but really, is there an equivalent on the left? Could it be that old school is ageism masquerading as enlightenment?

How is it that the mere mention of Jesus or a prayer at a football game is wrong but Jesus being dipped in urine is ok? Or Muslims with their Sharia Law and Honor Killings are noticeably overlooked?

I even asked one RP member about a Taslima Nasrin from Bangladesh and her work for women? And what was his reply? Basically, “so what about her?” What about her? This woman has been a leading voice in the fight against the abuse of women. This woman has had fatwas put out on her because of the repression of Islamic women. She has been assaulted because she believes as well as other things that female mutilation is wrong.

Is the Democratic Party more about demographics than actual causes? Does impugning Christians, military tradition and the flag bolster free speech or limit it? Why does only one viewpoint meet the litmus test of politically correct thought?

And what about immigration and the charges of racism? Thousands of people immigrate here every year but they do it legally and generally follow the laws of this great nation. So it is not really racism but a perspective that the rule of law is a good thing for all of us. And finally and most importantly a perspective that is different from yours, whether that is Religion, Science or Political opinions/orientation.

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Response by LTC Stephen F. made Oct 2 at 2015 1:47 PM

LTC Stephen F. — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 13:47:04 -0400

I think is has been the new fascism for some time SSgt Private RallyPoint Member.
Dating back to the French Revolution the new liberalism of the time was ruthless as it was executed.
The current liberalism with its penchant for demanding tolerance for its pet projects is very hypocritical in that it demands acceptance of whatever the liberal wants but is very intolerant of opposing views.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Oct 2 at 2015 2:04 PM

COL Jean (John) F. B. — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 14:04:56 -0400

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member - Political correctness is in the eye of the beholder. I don't know who elected the liberals as the arbiters of what is politically correct or not. My credo is "Why should I be politically correct when I can be right?"...

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2015 2:54 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 14:54:51 -0400

I believe there are aspects that are fascist.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Oct 2 at 2015 3:11 PM

CPT Jack Durish — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 15:11:43 -0400

This discussion will avoid speed bumps if we begin by defining our terms...

Liberalism has two contradictory usages. Traditional liberals (like myself) love individual liberty. Neo Liberals hate it. Be careful to indicate which you're referring to.

Political Correctness is not an ideology. It is an instrument of limiting free speech. Fundamentally it restricts us from saying anything that might offend anyone regardless of whether or not it is true.

Fascism is national socialism practiced in Spain, Germany, Italy, and Japan during the mid-Twentieth Century. In every instance it gave rise to a despotic rule over the citizens of those nations and resulted in a global war that left millions dead (including many citizens of the nations in which fascism took root)

Applying these definitions to the slogan appearing on the young woman's tee shirt will only lead to confusion. It is a non sequitur: A statement that has no internal logic or does not follow logically from a previous argument or statement.

Response by SGT Michael Glenn made Oct 2 at 2015 6:07 PM

SGT Michael Glenn — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 18:07:18 -0400

I dont care what it is, someone needs to get the corn Cobb out of their back side and quit always blubbering about every damn little thing, we are America on menopause anymore.

Response by PV2 Scott Goodpasture made Dec 28 at 2015 12:24 AM

PV2 Scott Goodpasture — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 00:24:35 -0500

No fascism is corporately controlled/owned government. PC is worse. It removes your 1st Amendment rights and is tyranny with manners

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Dec 28 at 2015 9:43 AM

CPT Jack Durish — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 09:43:24 -0500

Political correctness is simply an assault on freedom of speech. If you are willing to take responsibility for what you say, you have a right to say it no matter whether or not it offends someone. Why would speech have to be protected if it weren't offensive?

Political correctness has long been a weapon of the Left. (I refuse to misuse "liberal". I am "liberal" in the traditional sense. I love liberty.) One of the earliest protests against political correctness was penned by Tom Lehrer in the late 1950's when he made fun of folk songs which were the preferred form of progressive Leftist propaganda in those times. Lehrer spotted the fundamental flaw in politically correct speech: You're only allowed to say those things that the Left approves and assume that you don't need to hear opposing views because they are racist/bigoted/erroneous/etc. Implied in his song is the message that politically correct speech permits only politically correct thought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yygMhtNQJ9M

The Folk Song Army by Tom Lehrer

Tom Lehrer's response to the folk song of protest

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2015 11:13 AM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 11:13:08 -0500

If, as I suspect, some people are too frightened to live in a world where they are the captain of their own ship...why should I be made to live on their rudderless ship of state merely so they don't have to take responsibility for the heading?

Response by SFC Frank Hartley made Dec 28 at 2015 10:28 PM

SFC Frank Hartley — Mon, 28 Dec 2015 22:28:19 -0500

Of course it is.

Response by MSgt Michelle Mondia made Dec 29 at 2015 1:01 PM

MSgt Michelle Mondia — Tue, 29 Dec 2015 13:01:22 -0500

Fascism: a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government...

If people want to speak in a way that doesn't promote ethnocentrism or ignorance and act as not to offend others who do not think as they do doesn't mean our government is Fascist. See Spain and Italy 1930, that's Fascisim! Speak how as you like but don't attempt to defend your point of view by calling intellectuals Fascists or people who don't think like you PC. Most citizens want to get along so if that means curbing offensive language,bravo! We're human beings, we should have respect for one another. and if it suits you to go on rages about Sharia Law and immigtration have at it! I don't see anyone holding their tongues for fear of fine or imprisonment by the government.

Response by SPC Michael Duricko, Ph.D made Nov 8 at 2020 11:43 AM

SPC Michael Duricko, Ph.D — Sun, 08 Nov 2020 11:43:09 -0500

Good post!