Is mixing parts of the IFPU and civilian attire allowed on post in the gym?

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:13:44 -0500

Personally I hate it and don't do it. It looks bad and to me is the same thing as wearing your acu pants as casual wear. But is the mixing of pt uniform with civilians allowed in base gyms? I have only been able to find what looks to be a gray area in the regs.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 10 at 2014 9:19 PM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:19:27 -0500

Majority of installations are combating AR670-1s authorization of mixing the APFU with civilians in places like gyms and mess halls through CG policy letters. Lately even going to the extent of not authorizing civilians at all during PT hours.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 10 at 2014 11:07 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:07:35 -0500

If you are a Soldier you can not mix.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2014 4:48 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Jan 2014 04:48:34 -0500

I'm all for the formal barring of mixes of the IPFU, it just looks tacky. Here on Camp Humphreys, there is a commander's memo in the 600-5 that bars mixing IPFUs in the base gyms (although the signs in the gym cite 670-1 instead of the 600-5). I just ask that there is a clear black & white what IS and what ISN'T allowed so that the soldiers are educated. I remember at Schofield Barracks a few years back there were placard boards at the entrances of all the base facilities that showed pictures of what the garrison commander declared a "no go", it made it pretty simple to point out to a soldier "look at what your wearing and now look at the board", soldiers were also given an actual physical "blue book" and expected to carry it while in uniform.

Unfortunately, Camp Humphreys has the LEAST clear commander's policy guidance of any installation I've seen yet. There are no physical "blue books" and if you download the 600-5 offline it is still filled with grey definitions, as well as an over lack of self searching by most of the soldiers here, so you will still see people outside the commander's policy on a daily basis, and the answer I get every time "oh, I didn't know" or "I see everyone else doing it....". So if its going to be the standard lets make it a published black & white standard.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2014 10:56 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Jan 2014 10:56:39 -0500

I think it's a fair statement to make that the vast majority of us on here despise the mixture of any army uniform, and although 670-1 states it's authorized, with most AR's it also leaves it in the hands of the Commander. This, to me is where the CG policy letters come in play. The Army has very limited restrictions on civilians and dependents, the CG still reserves the right to control everyone and everything within the limits of the gates. Most places I've been, and SM I've spoken with have stated per their CG guidance this was not allowed, but of course there's always those select few.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2014 3:30 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Jan 2014 15:30:37 -0500

yes, you can mix them,, i too HATE,, I friggin HATE when people do it. but it is also somewhat of a necessity. If you are forward deployed and have no other clothes but a civie shirt and pt shorts, or civie shorts and pt shirt, are you really going to be denied pt time? no. The regulation clearly states it, and even though I personally DESPISE it when people do it, and will go WAY out of my way to never mix my uniforms with civies, it is authorized in the gym or while working out.. It is even a well known policy for 2ID Soldiers who are on Casey/ Hovey in Korea, the CDR authorizes it in writing. Just as  CW2 McCollum states, in Humphreys it is prohibitied, as it should be. Now, idiots mixing their uniforms while walking around walmart or "the ville" etc, that ish is very irritating...

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2014 5:57 PM

WO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:57:03 -0400

As I have been taught, if you have to think about it, you are wrong. I don't understand how hard it is to think like this. If you aren't sure where the unit stands on mixing uniform/civilian clothing, don't do it! I also personally hate it, SGT.

Response by TSgt Steven Neal made Sep 18 at 2015 12:18 AM

TSgt Steven Neal — Fri, 18 Sep 2015 00:18:23 -0400

Unprofessional. Use gear designed for work outs, not uniforms used during your shift!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2018 1:16 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 01:16:28 -0400

Last I checked in the reg one article of pt uniform is authorized for wear with civilians, I.e. tshirt with civilians shorts or vice versa. It could have changed though with the Da Pam.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2018 7:25 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 22 Apr 2018 19:25:15 -0400

That's a big NO. You cannot mix official IPFU/PT uniform with civilian attires on post. That's a NO-GO

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2019 10:29 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 Mar 2019 10:29:34 -0400

It’s disappointing how many NCOs incorrectly stated that it is not allowed. It is authorized in AR 670-1 but only the PT uniform can be mixed with civvies.

Response by SGT George Stephens made Aug 21 at 2020 3:34 PM

SGT George Stephens — Fri, 21 Aug 2020 15:34:52 -0400

Our unit was advised the following:

1. T-shirt with civies was okay. Blouse and trousers with civies was a No-Go unless it was running shoes for training purposes only.

2. The PT uniform could be mixed with civilian attire but the shirt had to be tucked.

3. When in doubt, rock the civies and wear the whole uniform correctly to avoid trouble