Is not keeping current with uniform regulation updates poor leadership or just laziness?

2015-07-14T13:52:51-04:00

As we all know AR 670-1 went through a major update last year and DA Pam 670-1 was released as the guide for wear and appearance of uniforms. Both the AR and the DA Pam were updated again this year. The first update addressed the ACU and the proper wear of the uniform. The 1 July release added verbiage for the OCP. When the update was made I noticed the verbiage was added” The sleeve cuffs on the combat uniform coat are not authorized to be rolled inside the coat.” I have corrected many Soldiers for lower enlisted to officers (as an NCO should and always with tack). I had one E7 tell me I was “nit picking” and a Captain tell me” last I saw it stated as long as it does not break the camouflage pattern”. How do you all feel?

Response by SSG Izzy Abbass made Jul 14 at 2015 1:54 PM

2015-07-14T13:54:03-04:00

To lead, you have to set the example. Being sloppy is not setting a good example or setting you and your unit up for success

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Jul 14 at 2015 1:54 PM

2015-07-14T13:54:18-04:00

MSG Private RallyPoint Member for those who are not deployed in could be that they are engaged in more important duties.
What is the implementation date of the Regulation? Was it upon release or at a later date?
For those who are in CONUS or other non-combat areas, I would hope that the uniform changes were put out via command and staff channels to all concerned. Sometimes that is done well and other times it isn't. Generally from what I have seen it tends to be a base/post/station issue. Where there is command emphasis on something, service members at all levels are generally informing, correcting others as required.
Where there is no command emphasis there is less support and knowledge.

Response by CMSgt Mark Schubert made Jul 14 at 2015 2:05 PM

2015-07-14T14:05:37-04:00

Laziness *IS* poor leadership!
Be the example and set the standard - I say good for you and keep up the good work! Tell that E7 who told you it was “nit picking” that the reason you want the uniform right is the same reason you want everything else right - including the weapon sights - is it "nit-picking" if you want your sights dead on?

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Jul 14 at 2015 2:05 PM

2015-07-14T14:05:37-04:00

Why not both? Not including those leaders that are deployed because let's face it they have more important things to worry about and limited access to the resources required to keep within the current regulations; those leaders that are not deployed with the necessary access to the needed resources should stay current with the changes. It gives time for those that report to them a chance to see a walking example of the changes and ensure proper training is completed.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 14 at 2015 2:32 PM

2015-07-14T14:32:59-04:00

It is the responsibility of soldiers and leaders at all levels to stay current and informed with changing rules and regulations. The last five years has produced a number of changing regulations (Especially in Army Aviation) that make it difficult to keep up, but dedicated leaders will do so. I think mentorship is a key theme in regard to this issue. To be an effective leader or mentor one has to be proactive (opposite of lazy) in all professional facets. I just dealt with the rolling of sleeves last week and I am happy to say I was not met with the same opposition. If it is written in black and white you are not "nit picking," rather promoting good order and discipline.

Response by SSgt Scott Schwerman made Jul 14 at 2015 2:57 PM

2015-07-14T14:57:25-04:00

Your supposed to set the example. So if you are being lazy and not keeping up with uniform regulations, you let your "followers" down.

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Jul 14 at 2015 5:33 PM

2015-07-14T17:33:41-04:00

Some of these changes IMHO are difficult to stay up with, when the nearest real Army Clothing sales store is over 400 miles away, and AFEES won't sell certain items online. It become difficult to find the right items. Now find a tailor to get it right, once you do get the item. NG and AR soldiers are kind of screwed when these changes come along. Still to this day many of wish Khakis would be brought back.

Response by SrA Christopher Gatzka made Jul 14 at 2015 5:58 PM

2015-07-14T17:58:35-04:00

If you don't set a standard which is the bare minimum. You will find some of your subordinates wanting to test your patience on the matter. Always keep or exceed the standard. Letting people maintain a below standard is poor leadership and laziness. On top of that you've got those who think "well if he/she can do it. I can". Don't let them think they can get away with it. Brief them on the standard and your expectations.