Is SSD II considered Electronic-Based Distributed Learning (EBDL) so you can receive retirement points or military correspondence(no-go)?

2017-04-14T18:21:18-04:00

I understand due to the new regulations, military correspondances are no longer being awarded retirement points but is SSD II considered EBDL's, therefore retirement point awardable?

Thank you

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 14 at 2017 6:58 PM

2017-04-14T18:58:28-04:00

Short answer No on correspondence courses and Yes on EBDL if they are listed in ATRRS, see below. You can thank CW3 Private RallyPoint Member for that info, it was posted was on another thread, couldn't link it for some reason.

"Please be advised that the revision of Army Regulation 140-185 (Dated 15 March 2016) Ch 2 Para 2-2 thru 2-4, see also Table 2-3, removed the authorization to award retirement points for correspondence courses. If an IMA or IRR officer was already enrolled in a correspondence course prior to 15 March 2016 and completes the course he/she may submit the ATRSS transcript / course certificate with a DA1380 and be awarded the appropriate retirement points for the course. However, no retirement points will be awarded for correspondence courses for which service members enrolled after 15 March 2016. Any DA1380s submitted for correspondence course completion with an enrollment date after 15 March 2016 will be returned without action.

Below is an excerpt from AR 140-185 detailing the authorized criteria for earning retirement points:

Criteria for earning retirement points
Retirement points may be earned by USAR Soldiers for active duty or duty in an active status for active duty for training (ADT), initial active duty for training (IADT), involuntary active duty for training (involuntary ADT), annual training (AT), IDT, membership points, and for other activities specified in this regulation. The following types of IDT are in accordance with AR 140–1:

a. Regularly scheduled unit training assembly include battle assemblies (BA) formally known as unit training assemblies.
b. Re-scheduled training (RST).
c. Make-up assemblies for missed BA due to AT.
d. Equivalent training (ET) in lieu of scheduled BA or RST.
e. Additional training assemblies (ATA).
f. Two-hour funeral honor IDT.
g. Training of individual Soldiers in nonpay status.

Electronic-based distributed learning (EBDL) correspondence courses (which only applies to Troop Program Unit Soldiers) may still be awarded retirement points. EBDL is training medium for use collectively or individually, with or without the control of an instructor or leader. Soldiers in an inactive duty training status directed or authorized to take EBDL coursework outside of duty or training periods
are not required to be present at a government facility, to be in a duty or training status, to report time or attendance or to wear a uniform. EBDL does not include traditional correspondence courses.

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Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 14 at 2017 6:59 PM

2017-04-14T18:59:54-04:00

According to what I see the answer is no. You have to be TPU.
Electronic-Based Distributed Learning - Paid IDT Duty for TPU only

The answer is found on the HRC Web site below:
https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/Earning%20Retirement%20Points

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Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2018 10:35 PM

2018-04-18T22:35:42-04:00

You can only receive retirement points for EBDL if it's submitted for pay using ATADL (code-42).
1 ATADL = 8hrs if EBDL
There is a specific list of courses that qualify for EBDL.
You are limited to 12 ATA(ATADL) periods a fiscal year.
You cannot be paid for training completed on a day that you are already receive pay.

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2019-09-18T05:26:09-04:00

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