Is the 5.11 rapid assault shirt compliant with 670-1?

2021-03-24T16:41:22-04:00

My PX sells these combat shirts so I would assume they are? And if so, where in the f do the patches go? I can’t find shit online as to what is to be worn and where.

Response by SSG Steven Borders made Mar 24 at 2021 4:48 PM

2021-03-24T16:48:05-04:00

Chapter 2-10
a. Soldiers purchasing uniforms, uniform items, or heraldic items from establishments other than the MCSS must
ensure that the items are authorized for wear and that they conform to appropriate military specifications or are manufactured in accordance with the UQCP or the heraldic quality control system. When items appear deficient, Soldiers
should submit a Standard Form (SF) 368 (Product Quality Deficiency Report) through their servicing MCSS, where
forms are available. Commercially purchased items that are authorized for wear in lieu of military-issued items must
conform to the basic specification of the military-issued item, unless otherwise specified in this regulation.

(2) Optional uniforms and other uniform clothing items sold in the MCSS, in exchanges, or by commercial sources
will contain a label, stamp, or certificate issued by the textile technology team at the CCDC Soldier Center. Components of some optional uniforms (such as men’s commercial white shirts, studs, and cuff links) are not included in the
UQCP.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2021 4:48 PM

2021-03-24T16:48:53-04:00

First off, let's keep this a professional forum.
Second, just because it's sold, doesn't make it authorized.
Third, 99.9% sure the answer is no, they aren't authorized. And even if they were it would only be under field conditions while wearing armor.

We used to get shirts like these during the UCP days, and it made 1SGs and CSMs everywhere lose their minds - and they were issued! Not only were they Iraq/Afghanistan only, but exclusively while outside the wire.
ARSOF gets shirts like that in the SPEAR package, but I don't believe FORSCOM is rocking shirts like those anymore.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2021 6:13 PM

2021-03-24T18:13:20-04:00

I will go ahead and address this. It is not just a no but a it will never happen. The commander can modify and authorize some items but this isn't one of them. The only shirt that you can wear is the Army Combat Shirt. An ALARACT came out to authorize the ACS. A commander may modify uniforms but those are only for dress items or accessories. He can't disregard a whole uniform and just make one up. That shirt is recreational only. You can go out and purchase an ACS but even then your commander will have to authorize you to wear in the field.

There was a reason why the Army banned all of the other shirts besides the ACS. As soon as they are exposed to fire they will melt and graft to your skin. It is not safe or wise.

Response by SP5 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2021 8:28 PM

2021-03-24T20:28:44-04:00

SGT Dalton Kemp You identified a very interesting issue that is hitting individuals who are assuming that appearance means equivalence. The various responses to your post deal with the fact that a product needs to be in compliance with specific regulations, which the "unofficial" PX product is not. One step in keeping this assumption from impacting other SMs is to have the PXs clearly post that the product is NOT in compliance and is not a substitute for the authorized shirt. This is an organizational approach that should be followed up by the PX buyers with the manufacturer - ensuring that the product labeling clearly states that their shirt is not in compliance. Failure to properly label the product would mean that the PXs would no longer carry it. Just a thought. Stay safe.