Is the crime rate in Chicago a result of officers second guessing themselves?

SSgt Alex Robinson — Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:26:11 -0400

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-emanuel-fetal-police-met-20151012-story.html

Emanuel blames Chicago crime uptick on officers second-guessing themselves

Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Monday stood by his contention that Chicago police officers are becoming "fetal" out of concern they will get in trouble for actions during arrests, blaming officers second-guessing themselves in the wake of high-profile incidents for rising crime rates in Chicago and elsewhere.

Response by SCPO David Lockwood made Oct 14 at 2015 8:37 AM

SCPO David Lockwood — Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:37:42 -0400

That's a good question. I think that this has some basis but I think there are a bunch of criminals there. Before anyone says anything I am originally from the Chicago area.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2015 11:13 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:13:48 -0400

Mayor Emmanuel is correct when he says that the police are not as active as they might be because of the threat of reprecussions from the city.
He also made it worse by publicly stating that. He just empowered bad behavior on the part of both the police and the citizenry. Having diagnosed the problem, he shows a lack of grasp as to the why of the problem.
He also conveniently forgets who is committing the crimes in the first place.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Oct 14 at 2015 11:59 AM

MCPO Roger Collins — Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:59:40 -0400

There is a site that focuses on violent deaths in Chicago. The place has been a mess for decades. The increases over the past year or so can be attributed to the War on Police. Say again how many years have the Dem's run the city?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2015 5:48 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:48:04 -0400

Officers are doing great job, problem is that there is no rea jobs to employ people, we only have service jobs, so the rules of the jungle to survive kick in and people turn to illicit economy for survival.

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Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2015 5:48 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:48:56 -0400

Living in Chicago I have to say Chicago is pretty safe city

Response by SSG Ricardo Marcial made Oct 14 at 2015 5:49 PM

SSG Ricardo Marcial — Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:49:30 -0400

This mayor really needs to step outside the Loop and talk to those officers in the communities affected by the gun violence. Putting blame on the cops, really?

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2015 8:21 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:21:24 -0400

I lived in Oak Park,IL right off the Green Line and honestly I never felt in danger. However, I knew what areas I should not be late at night, but that is the same as New Orleans, LA, Houston, NYC, San Fran, or any other big city.

Response by SPC David S. made Oct 14 at 2015 8:59 PM

SPC David S. — Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:59:09 -0400

I believe that that there are crimogenic conditions within a couple of communities in Chicago where adverse social conditioning and external factors have created a breading ground for crime. This social disorganization is a result of residents failing to control the errant behavior of other residents who are deviating from social norms. Some of the causes of social disorganization are urbanization, residential mobility, family disruption, poverty, unemployment and income inequality. When you address the the conditions that are creating the social disorganization you stabilize the community. Much like the conditions in the middle east are now more conducive to an increase in crime due to the social unrest and disorganization. The educated folks will see his comments for what it is - an attempt to transpose the blame on to others.

Additionally the percentage of people on welfare has been on the rise since 2001. Common sense tells you that such inducements do not foster independence. But as the numbers indicate it appears that individuals seem perfectly willing to give up that independence for security. This correlates to higher crime as welfare helps to support or enable single parent homes. There is tons of data showing how one parent homes promote criminal behavior. The truth is our major cities are being governed by democrats - New York, Los Angles, Chicago, Houston, Philadelphia, San Antonio, Dallas, San Jose. Out of the ten largest only San Diego wasn't - The violent crime rate in San Diego fell 6 percent last year to its lowest figure in 35 years. But of course I'm sure the cops there are just as apprehensive in preventing crime.

Response by SSG Daniel Brewster made Oct 19 at 2015 1:28 PM

SSG Daniel Brewster — Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:28:40 -0400

Perhaps it is a contributing factor these days, yet Chicago has had problems for decades. Entitlement mentality, corruption of officials at all levels (really, how many other States can say that 4 of the last 7 governors have been to prison?), and a huge divide between the haves and the have nots. And then the drugs and all that goes along with it. I've lived in the Chicago area for 20+ years and I'm sick of it - I cannot wait to move. I'm pulling the ejection handle when my youngest goes to college.

And on the blame the cops part? Hardly. Although I'd be thinking twice about enforcing the law if I was a cop - really, do you want to have your career (and life) ruined if you shoot some dude who happens to be a bad guy who was "turning his life around"? Screw that.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 27 at 2017 5:42 PM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 27 Sep 2017 17:42:30 -0400

BULLSHIT!!!