Is the United States military truly ready to allow and accept women to serve in male-dominated combat arms MOS's and units?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:40:36 -0400

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Apr 27 at 2017 3:42 PM

Cpl Justin Goolsby — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:42:22 -0400

I see zero issue with it. As long as they are held to the same standards then have at it. I know female Marines who kick just as much ass as the male Marines. So I won't begrudge any female who wants to pick up a rifle and get dirty in the field.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 27 at 2017 3:44 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:44:35 -0400

I don't think that the few women that have taken the plunge are ready for it either.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 27 at 2017 3:47 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:47:11 -0400

The US Millitary, I think is ready. It is those individuals with Men Only mentality, those are the ones that are not ready.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 27 at 2017 4:29 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:29:47 -0400

SSG Private RallyPoint Member In the military, we have our orders, and our job is to carry out those orders to the best of our ability.

Response by Cpl Mark A. Morris made Apr 27 at 2017 4:35 PM

Cpl Mark A. Morris — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:35:47 -0400

Gender neutral PFT exists now in the Marine Corp. 6 pullups halfway through boot camp.
If I'm your enemy, your weakness is my gain. I will close with you. Because, you are physically weak you lose on 2 areas. Physical and lack of air cover.Inless, you use your air on your own.
Please do me a favor and change the name of the Marine Corp. You are not like me. Or, raise PFT standards and let everyone who wants to try out.
M. Morris RVT

Response by SGT William Howell made Apr 27 at 2017 5:07 PM

SGT William Howell — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:07:39 -0400

Here is the beauty of this. The US Military has had the similar challenges throughout its history. Allowing black soldier to serve, then allowing them to be in combat, and finally integration where they were equals. How about sexual orientation. When I first joined just saying you were gay was enough to get you discharged. Then "don't ask, don't tell" and finally being able to openly serve and dress as you identify. Women have had their challenges. Not being allowed to serve, to only being allowed to be nurses, to non-combat roles, to serving in combat in non-combat units, and women serving on combat ships. Now we are looking to integrate into combat MOS roles.

Everyone of these challenges was met with resistance from both the military and civilians, yet they are all are thought of as the norm now. Nobody looks twice at a black fighter pilot, but in 1935 it was unheard of. The US military has always been professionals and when the order comes down to integrate females in combat units it is going to happen, no matter who does not like it. Then 10 years from now people are going to look back at our time in service and wonder how we could think that women were not capable of serving in combat roles, just like we thought about our grandfathers military stigmas about being black or gay.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Apr 27 at 2017 5:32 PM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:32:27 -0400

Personally se no reason why they can't, if they're trained for it ,and can handle the task , do it.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Apr 27 at 2017 5:58 PM

MCPO Roger Collins — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:58:01 -0400

What does this say?

https://www.google.com/amp/http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/12/03/female-soldiers-cleared-to-serve-infantry-ranger-special-forces.html%3Fvariant%3Dmobile.amp

Female Soldiers Cleared to Serve in Infantry, Ranger, Special Forces

In 2016, female soldiers will have the chance to serve in jobs that were previously closed to women.

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Apr 27 at 2017 10:04 PM

CPT Pedro Meza — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 22:04:48 -0400

We have been fighting religious misguided males that hate and fear trained and educated women and girls since 2001, women are force multipliers when properly trained and used, so the answer to your question comes from Black history, because the same was said about Blacks. Another way to answer you, is if your are married train your wife to shoot and stab then cheat on her!

Response by COL Charles Williams made Apr 27 at 2017 11:37 PM

COL Charles Williams — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 23:37:18 -0400

Does it matter SSG Private RallyPoint Member .... It is happening now.

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Apr 28 at 2017 12:16 AM

CAPT Kevin B. — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 00:16:20 -0400

If women are not artificially held back, they tend to perform better than most expect. Although Seabees are not front line warriors, we've been coed going on 27 years. I recall times in the badlands where everybody was much more comfortable having Lori tapping the paddles on Ma Duce as she was an artist with it. Think she was 100 dripping wet with a Barney Fife dog tag chain, but you wouldn't want to mess with her. Same went for Beth manning the tubes. Good women pick up the knack just as fast as the guys. Lori and Beth would just cuss a bit differently when they were in the zone. You just enjoyed the show.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Apr 28 at 2017 12:36 AM

CSM Charles Hayden — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 00:36:25 -0400

SSG Private RallyPoint Member Does it matter? 'Their will" be done!

One more instance of embrace the suck! 'Brown shoe' speak that is!

Response by SGT David T. made Apr 28 at 2017 8:24 AM

SGT David T. — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 08:24:52 -0400

Does it matter? The decision has been made. We already seen how this exact thing plays out when the Women's Army Corps (WAC) was disbanded in 1978 and the units integrated. Of course there will be resistance to the change and predictions of doom and gloom. In the end the military will adjust as it always does and eventually it will just be the norm and no one will give it another thought.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 28 at 2017 10:03 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 10:03:16 -0400

Very true and hopefully leaders are encouraging more diversity within the ranks. I do believe with time we will be more accepting. I think right now, it's still early. I remember back in a few years back assigned in a mechanized infantry, it was like people were talking about getting out the army, or reclassifying to different branches to avoid having to deal with a female. I was truly shocked and disgusted hearing that. Ultimately, females will be assigned to those typical all-male units regardless and hopefully leadership help soldiers to understand the BIG picture in all of this. Everybody brings something to the table regardless of race, gender or religious background. Something that EO rep and leaders alike, will have to ensure those policies are upheld.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 28 at 2017 12:23 PM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:23:27 -0400

I hope it's all just a bad dream!!!

Response by PO1 Aaron Baltosser made Apr 28 at 2017 5:19 PM

PO1 Aaron Baltosser — Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:19:55 -0400

IF the standards are fully and openly applied to ALL earning MOS designations, and such yes, I think so. What we are not ready to accept is a softer touch that often accompanies such an idea, and a lowering of standards openly, or a lowering of standards being enforced quietly so as to not hurt anyone's feelings that failed to make the cut. We can't all do what we want in the military. It is a merit based structure. You are either good to go for a duty or you are not There is no middle ground.

Response by Gary Henson made May 1 at 2017 1:38 AM

Gary Henson — Mon, 01 May 2017 01:38:47 -0400

I say go for it.....but if they freak out in combat it could get you killed