Is the wear of black barets allowed in ocp’s?

2019-12-10T03:02:26-05:00

My question is that if soldiers are allowed to wear the black barets instead of the pc because I was on post the other day and a Cooke of my Buddies where wearing them and it was my understanding that it was only on ceremonial purposes and on dress uniforms

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2019 3:14 AM

2019-12-10T03:14:03-05:00

Usually if people are wearing them instead of the PC it is authorized or directed by that units command.
I'm fairly positive just wearing it in lieu of the patrol cap violates guidance in all the 670-1 resources.

Check the regs though. AR 670-1, DA PAM 670-1

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2019 7:07 AM

2019-12-10T07:07:21-05:00

A cook? They wear berets whenever they wear their cool white

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2019 7:34 AM

2019-12-10T07:34:26-05:00

By OCPs you must mean ACUs

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2019 7:34 AM

2019-12-10T07:34:50-05:00

Why would anyone wear it unless they had to?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2019 8:39 AM

2019-12-10T08:39:29-05:00

Yes, but only during certain times. Or if you are a cook.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2019 9:46 AM

2019-12-10T09:46:09-05:00

Depends on the unit, really. Most units go with the PC for daily wear. Other units still use the beret as daily wear.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2019 10:10 AM

2019-12-10T10:10:55-05:00

*ACUs (The uniform is still called the Army Combat Uniform - the pattern simply changed from UCP to OCP).

There's more but I'll just leave it at that.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2019 2:53 PM

2019-12-10T14:53:30-05:00

Cooks are normally authorized to wear Beret with their cooking uniform per AR670-1

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2019 9:45 PM

2019-12-10T21:45:24-05:00

You are correct.

"The black beret is not the standard headgear for wear with the combat uniform. However, commanders retain the authority to prescribe the black beret for special events such as parades or changes of command/responsibility." DA PAM 670-1, 4-10(b)

Response by SFC Don Ward made Dec 10 at 2019 11:12 PM

2019-12-10T23:12:13-05:00

I was told I had two beret's, One to crap in and one to cover it up with.

Response by SPC Timothy Bequette made Dec 11 at 2019 11:46 AM

2019-12-11T11:46:00-05:00

Leg

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 14 at 2019 3:32 AM

2019-12-14T03:32:24-05:00

It's up to base/post commander.

Response by SSgt Jim Carpenter made Feb 4 at 2020 8:58 AM

2020-02-04T08:58:42-05:00

I think they have changed their uniform standards. I have also seen that more than once.

Response by SSG Jason Penn made Dec 13 at 2020 6:30 PM

2020-12-13T18:30:16-05:00

I served with 66th MI GRP in Germany when the Black Beret came out for wear by all soldiers (no longer just the Rangers, who have since switched to tan). Afterwards I served in 206th MI BN (Ft. Gordon), 3 ID (Ft. Stewart), and 344th MI BN (Goodfellow AFB, San Angelo TX (AIT Instructor)). Ft Gordon still had us wear the PC for daily wear, all the others I was with, the PC was only worn for Field Duty (in Garrison it was still the Beret for daily wear). I retired in 2012, so I don't know what has changed or to what extent, but as I understand, it was always under the Post Commanders discretion as to what headgear was authorized for wear and when.

Response by SSG Robert Tucker made Dec 15 at 2020 12:27 AM

2020-12-15T00:27:18-05:00

THE MARINE CORPS HASNT CHANGED ITS UNIFORM IN about 80yrs its like the DOD loves to fuck around with the ARMY to maybe boost morale of increase recruiting numbers? I was Army and the BULLSHT NEVER ENDS!